| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 6:27:04 AM |
I still want to know if hot and steamy girl on girl action is as sickening to the 'homophobes' on here
Call me strange, but I genuinely find 'lesbian scenes' utterly dull - I have never in my life desired a menage a trois either...just dead happy being with one sexy woman
BUT,
It must be said, 99% of 'lesbian scenes' whether on video or in a strip club are performed by two heterosexual, good looking (or at least ish) women, and it is usually just an act, to please an audience
Actual lesbians (with perhaps a very rare exception that I have certainly yet to encounter) are ugly, masculine freaks who no man on earth would wish to watch 'in action'
Just for clarification purposes all - too many people get confused on this one | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 6:28:20 AM | ^^ The lesbian ladies who have messaged me on here have been without a doubt stunning, I've not been approached by one single butch dyke style woman...
Msg 101.. No I do not agree with homosexuality being forced upon those who do not enjoy it or the company of those who do enjoy it.. Nothing other than the law should be enforceable ..
Seriously though, can you honestly say you have ever been forced to endure a homosexual show? Or anything that can be deemed homosexual because I don't believe I ever have... If there is a gay kiss or sex scene on TV, turn over.. If you see gay men in a club or on the street, turn away... If there is a Gay Pride march, arrange to be elsewhere that day ... Simple enough really ..
If you dislike homosexuality that is your prerogative .. I would not expect you to like it at all .. You don't have to even tolerate it, you can choose to avoid it as much as is humanly possible, if the situation is unavoidable ( and I really cannot imagine situation where you would be unavoidably embroiled in overt homosexuality) then politely express your discomfort and leave .. Or if this 'travesty of nature' is occurring on your doorstep, ask them to leave... You can be intolerant of a lifestyle choice without the need to be overly aggressive towards those who partake of that activity...
The problem I still have, is that the OP actively sought out a venue geared towards homosexuals and then complained and called a guy a gay c unt and knocked him out...
There is a world of difference between intolerance and actively seeking out those which you abhor then beating them for being that very thing ...
vv How can you say that? Have you spoken to any of them? Do you know any of them? I have met two of these ladies at a meet night and they were most definitely 100% lesbian and also extremely lovely looking... I don't understand your logic???
Are you trying to say that only ugly women who can't get men are lesbian?? Oh and I know a gay guy who is more masculine and butch than 99% of all straight men I know... There are exceptions to every rule, even daft ones made up on the spur of the moment ... | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 6:33:00 AM | ^^ The lesbian ladies who have messaged me on here have been without a doubt stunning
They are not lesbians hun, see what I mean about the confusion...9/10, they were probably under instructions from their husband/boyfriend to bring home some bacon
For the aforementioned menage a trois
Just to add a littel bit more to my point, please consider this - a lesbian, is basically the polar opposite of a gay man
Wheras gay men are famous for being clean, smart, well dressed, well groomed and perhaps sometimes 'pretty' (not to me, I must add), they are very similar to females
Lesbians on the other hand are like us lads - usually in need of a bath and a shave lol
I have met two of these ladies at a meet night and they were most definitely 100% lesbian and also extremely lovely looking...
They were not 'lesbians', trust me.
Are you trying to say that only ugly women who can't get men are lesbian?? Oh and I know a gay guy who is more masculine and butch than 99% of all straight men I know... There are exceptions to every rule, even daft ones made up on the spur of the moment ...
No I'm not, I never suggested that, I'm sure there are plenty of less-than-gorgeous women who struggle to find men but who would love to - regarding your gay friend, yes, there are exceptions, and if you go back to my earlier post I accepted that there would be 'one off' beautiful lesbians...I simply said that in all the scenes that we see, we are not watching them (I hope I am in the other 1% by the way, would hate to be less masculine than him!) | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 6:41:27 AM | Jumpwings in Msg 101 said:
To see the wider picture of what is going on in our society, would you be offended and lack any understanding if you where to witness say, a paedophilia parade,or a bestiality parade, where persons engage in lewd acts with children or donkeys in full public view (never mind behind closed doors and in their own private bedrooms)?...Having witnessed a "gay parade" this is indeed what goes on...I am very interested to know your views you humble and "understanding of other persons lifetyles" kinda folk....
So you witnessed a Gay Pride Parade where they had full (GAY) sexual intercourse in the parade?
I wonder how they kept in step?
Sexual Intercourse in public is an offense, so why did you not report them to the police? I bet this parade was attended by some police, because all parades that I have ever seen or attended have police present.
Similarly, anyone attempting paedophila or bestiality in public would be arrested.
I do not think anyone believes your point has any value, because it is a clear exaggeration of whatever you saw, if indeed you saw anything!
To have to stoop to such ridiculous comparisons just shows up the poverty of your argument.
If you want to say that bestiality and paedophilia are the equivalent in your mind of homosexuality, then simply do so. No need to make up ridiculous stories.
In response to that viewpoint, the first two are illegal acts, homosexuality is not. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 6:44:29 AM | If you want to say that bestiality and paedophilia are the equivalent in your mind of homosexuality, then simply do so. No need to make up ridiculous stories.
In response to that viewpoint, the first two are illegal acts, homosexuality is not.
All three are unnatural perversions, and the the third was illegal here, hopefully may be again one day, and still is in many parts of the world | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 6:50:46 AM | All three are unnatural perversions, and the the third was illegal here, hopefully may be again one day, and still is in mnay parts of the world
And what evidence are you offering up to this thread that Homosexuality is an unnatural perversion?
Apart from, "Cos I say it is?"
The forum awaits with bated breath (YAWN!)
Edit: Msg1110 - is that it? So any female who does not become "moist" is unnaturally perverse? I think you may have some comments from the female forumites, I will leave you to their tender care! LOL
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 7:06:22 AM |
And what evidence are you offering up to this thread that Homosexuality is an unnatural perversion?
Various sources show that homosexuality was classed as an unnatural act.
This is acknowledged here by someone who should know:
http://www.petertatchell.net/criminalisation%20of%20gays/still%20criminal.htm
"Many people assume that the 1967 Sexual Offences Act legalised homosexuality. It didn't. Others are under the misapprehension that equalising the age of consent will end anti-gay discrimination in sexual offences law. It won't.
The pre-1967 laws against gay sex - Sections 12 and 13 of the 1956 Sexual Offences Act - were never repealed. They remain on the statute books, even today.
What's more, this 1956 legislation, which derives directly from Victorian era laws passed in 1861 and 1885, continues to describe homosexual relations using the disparaging language "unnatural offences" and "gross indecency". No specifically heterosexual offences, not even rape or incest, are referred to in such pejorative, demeaning terms. Homophobia is enshrined in the wording of the law." | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 7:23:41 AM | Msg 114, All you have done is offered up a quote from Peter Tatchell about the incomplete repeal of old (Victorian) laws which said that Homosexuality was once illegal. As Peter Tatchell is one of this country's foremost gay campaigners, trying to use his words to back your view is a bit like saying the Pope does not believe in God. Very weak!
I seem to remember that the "Red Flag Act" was never repealed, so you and Ejay72 will be wanting us all to drive our "locomotives" behind our own little man waving a red flag?
Seriously, your quote still does not offer any evidence that homosexuality is an unnatural perversion. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 7:25:28 AM | msge 114...Well there ye go...
subversive...i find your bellittling post abusive and insulting :modhammer: To imply that i am lying is also deeply insulting...
Now, if you think I am lying about a male with an erect penis in full public view and being carressed not a sexual act, or a two naked females carressing and whipping each other in full public view not a sexual act, then well, oh dear me, dearie dearie me....And btw, it would also be in a heterosexual means...
To say turn the other cheek is a bit much really, i am sure if one walked down the street naked a court judge would take a very dull view of that argument...
The irony of you lot telling myself to be tolerant, but ignoraing that tolerance of an opposing view is a bit ironic really...And btw, you have read my posts?...you have read that I have encouraged a bent person to come out?...No?...Oh, well, there ye go then....
As for the participant of a "gay pride parade":
Ahh, the old view of the participant of an event, though valid, is not very subjective of that event…Let me explain: I have a story of a WWII veterans account of four of his buddies arguing about a battle they all participated in, each had different views of the actual same events, each conflicting in their detail…the veteran then pointed out something they had not considered, they where all correct...My point?..Surely you don’t need me to explain, yer not that thick….
I really don't think you guys are seeing the bigger picture here...As i have stated, it was normal and acceptable for people to engage in sex acts with children, but not now...how long will our society take the view that we should stop being intolerant of this act? | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 8:18:30 AM | ^^^^ In regards to the paedophilia remark... This is all about the target ... In homosexuality both partners are consensual adults .. Paedophiles target children who are neither old enough to consent nor big enough to persuade a potential suitor ( I use that term loosely) that they are not of the adult/child sexual persuasion...
You cannot compare the two .. One is the sexual relationship between two equals and the other is the targetting and defilement of an innocent...
( I am pleased this thread has had a stay of execution, it's a fascinating debate and I hope it can be kept ) | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 8:33:14 AM |
During the course of the night , i had some gay cu*t pinch my ass , and i turned round and knocked him out.
you beat up a gay?
what a tough guy. you clearly AREN'T physically phobic then. which is just as well, cos you seem to get a lot of male attention.
youre mereley scared of your own latent desires. dont worry about it. get back to your gay bar, "ladies man".
LOLOLOL.
i only say this, cos i apparently have a gay following lol. which i guess is nicer then being hated by strangers. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 8:40:13 AM | Dude, I'm still waiting to hear what happened after machoman belted the guy. He just stated in that overtly macho way that he 'knocked him out' in what way he's yet to express. I'm doubting this tough guy's story without hearing about the aftermath where he got thrown out, possibly with much anger in his part, and maybe started the tough-guy stuff outside. And how THAT panned out.
I've seen it all before, where Mr Toughy gets annoyed, starts a ruckus, then promptly gets a right kicking for being a tw*t. Same as would happen in a hetro club if anyone acts unreasonably like he claimed to.
EDIT: Who cares, the machoman has left the building. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 11:14:17 AM |
Sections 12 and 13 of the 1956 Sexual Offences Act - were never repealed. They remain on the statute books, even today.
Incorrect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_1956
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1956/cukpga_19560069_en_1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_1967
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1967/cukpga_19670060_en_1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_2003
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030042_en_1 | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 12/31/2008 11:37:40 AM | | There is nothing wrong with being , bigot or whatever as long as it don't interfere or harm anybody else. ...Its called tolerance | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 11:40:55 AM |
you beat up a gay?
And why not?
He appears to have smacked someone who was guilty of a sexual assault.
If anyone did that to my girlfriend, there'd be nothing left of him to stick in the ambulance.
Only a wimp would allow someone to get away with that!
Back to the bollox.
Incorrect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_1956
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1956/cukpga_19560069_en_1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_1967
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1967/cukpga_19670060_en_1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_2003
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030042_en_1
(sigh) Two points are worth making:
1) When Tatchell made his comments, those sections were still on the statute.
Obviously, I would ecpect people to check such things before commenting, but still......
2) I quoted Tatchell because he acknowledged the fact that the original laws against homosexuality used the term "unnatural act"
Fairly simple stuff, and most seem to have understood, but there's always one.....
HTH | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 11:51:09 AM |
ecpect
*sigh*...lol
I quoted Tatchell because he acknowledged the fact that the original laws against homosexuality used the term "unnatural act"
Indeed, but the law no longer sees it as an "unnatural act". You have got to love progress.... | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 11:55:21 AM |
Indeed, but the law no longer sees it as an "unnatural act".
I'm fully aware, but the quote was provide at the request of another poster who asked for 'proof' about homosexuality being 'unnatural'.
I merely offerred an example in which HM Government once used the term, just to help him.
HTH | |
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Posted: 12/31/2008 4:53:10 PM |
offerred
*deeper sigh*...not again...lol
I'm fully aware, but the quote was provide at the request of another poster who asked for 'proof' about homosexuality being 'unnatural'.
The 'proof' was requested for the present, it was a 'present-tense' question, a fact that you subsequently reinforced by using the word 'being'. You provided 'proof' of something that was (past-tense) for a question that needed a 'current' answer...priceless!
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Posted: 12/31/2008 6:26:25 PM | | FF12GM you seem to have the most balanced, sensible view on the subject. I couldn't care less if a person is gay, it isn't something I want to see or participate in. I would'nt dream of being horrible to someone based on their sexuality ,though I do beleive people have the right to live the way they chose without recrimination as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. I think what annoys people more than the subject matter is the banal rantings of the PC brigade ready to shoot down all who hint at not liking their pet minority group. What if a gay man came on and ranted about straight men, do the same rules apply? There are codes of behaviour that must apply to all groups majority and minority. | |
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Posted: 1/1/2009 12:12:05 AM |
I couldn't care less if a person is gay, it isn't something I want to see or participate in. I would'nt dream of being horrible to someone based on their sexuality ,though I do beleive people have the right to live the way they chose without recrimination as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
How very, terribly commendable of you ...switswoo to you !!
I think what annoys people more than the subject matter is the banal rantings of the PC brigade ready to shoot down all who hint at not liking their pet minority group. What if a gay man came on and ranted about straight men, do the same rules apply? There are codes of behaviour that must apply to all groups majority and minority.
..good question, what if a gay man did come on here and did rant and rave about having a heterosexual beat him up for being gay...would we sympathise with his situation just because we are pc or would we feel upset for him that he was physically abused ??
This thread has been a great source of amusement for me and honestly all day yesterday I was discussing some of the comments on here..particularly those of the OP with my two teenage sons and I swear the three of us nearly died laughing a few times at the silliness and blinkered viewpoints of the ..as Hijo put it..the machismo types or those who are desperate to prove how macho they are by decrying homosexual activity.
I can't wait to show this thread to my gay mates - I know they will love it.
I can honestly say that I am 'buzzing' after reading this thread because I feel quite proud that the regular forumites on here have not failed to put forward their very insightful, witty and well written opinions...you guys are a class act...(obviously I am exempting jumpwings and ejay, the mad OP, the lady above and the supercilious buzz, even though he is pro the anti-homophobe stance from that classification)...the rest of you make me smile so much for the right reasons.
Warrencraig...your first post on this thread was brilliant to read - I loved it so much !! | |
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Posted: 1/1/2009 12:24:30 AM | Thanks Miss Grundy! (looks back at the huge post and wonders which bit she means  )
I LOVE some of the sarcastic replies on this thread!! talking to this drz bloke does seem about as productive as banging your head on a brick wall!! | |
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Posted: 1/1/2009 1:03:46 AM | It wasn't the sarcasm that I was getting off on but more the honesty and clarity of the responses afforded to the ridiculous OP
I had attempted to edit my previous post with this edit :
Hiya..it wasn't just a part of the post it was the whole of it that I thought was great - I liked it best of all that you were being absolutely honest and treating the OP respectfully and without prejudice but still managed to make known your......hmmmmm...something or another.....
I must learn to be like you and be mindful of practising restraint at all times and being very polite yet putting my point across well... but I'm cursed by the fact that I am a rebellious Irish woman and all the resultant problems such a predicament entails .
If you are someone who speaks or thinks the way Irish people do on these forums you can be sure that you will be banned for it...Cailin should not have been given a ban in my opinion and nor should I have to suffer inexplicable posting restrictions as in the 5 post a day limit....For all of you guys who post in the UK forums and proclaim your Irishness ..I don't think that's such a good idea..although you might be safe if you manage to refrain from slagging which in Irish culture is our way of shaking hands and saying "how do you do ?" - pity that the mods on here don't understand that most of the time Irish people are joking and messing and hardly expect to be taken seriously unless they demand to be....our abuse of the english language should be understandable also given our circumstances..it goes without saying that we would be effin' and blindin' and being verbally obtuse.....c'mon mods, get with the programme and stop being so culturally indifferent....give the Irish a break...try and understand us rather than despise us for who we are.
(sorry for the above but I had to write that because I am sick to death of being misunderstood by the would be mods on here and the actual moderators buying into to their shoite)
but oh my goodness..perhaps I shouldn't have protested quiet as much and I am sure I will rue the day that I did....oh dear I've hijacked this thread by moaning and groaning and whining, I've let myself down so badly - I apologise to all of you who happen to have come upon this post and end up feeling annoyed with me for doing so but rest assured I am actually, quite deliberately holding back on being far more critical of the shoddy moderating of these forums and am in fact being very gentle in my expression of disappointment with the powers that be.......I would love to see the present mods on here actually practise good sense for a change. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 1/1/2009 4:55:24 AM | You're a violent, bigoted idiot, DrZues5, to be very honest; a typical insecure "lad" who can't find it within his little brain to accept that fact that others live differently from himself.
Now, openly admitting that you hate gays is bad enough, but punching someone because they harmlessly pinched your arse - remember, you're IN A GAY BAR, dipshit - just goes to show that you are, indeed, a vile individual.
So, what's wrong with being homophobic? Well, the fact that you have no logical basis, other than irrational prejudice, for hating homosexuals. | |
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 1/1/2009 5:00:07 AM |
.I can only conclude we should be reminded of the glorious and great Roman Empire, the morals of it's Elite and their pompous posturing, and then looking at their imitators in this present time and on this forum and the fact that is that really, WE WILL NOT REALLY REMEMBER YOU......
And talking of the Roman Empire, lets not forget that Roman Centurions were encouraged to have sexual relationships with their soldier mates to encourage solidarity and protection of each other.
Going into a Gay bar and getting your bum pinched then knocking the fella out?? Shame on you, dont go into a gay bar if you are homophobic!!! I'm surprised you didnt get your own arse kicked big time, hardly any gay men are tiny little skinny men who take kindly to that sort of thing you know.
So, what's wrong with being homophobic? Well, the fact that you have no logical basis, other than irrational prejudice, for hating homosexuals.
Well said. That sums it up totally!!
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| Why is it now wrong to be homophobic ?
Posted: 1/1/2009 8:28:29 AM |
Also, in the past blacks, women and the working classes
LBD, you told us that you 'abhor' (I hate that word, only used by the self righteous in my experience) any kind of 'ism' - did you mean to say 'black people' perhaps?
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