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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/17/2009 3:26:49 AM | Well hello there, I’m Miss Kettle *shakes hand* you must be Mr. Pot?
I'll start off apologizing in advance for my more primitive debating skills, I tend to just bluntly say things as I see them.
So, It ok for you to read and interpret posts addressed to other people and give your opinion on them, as in how the forum is ‘full of bile, rampant sexism, bullying, and bitterness’ and its ok for you to jump to the defense of a post but I’m not entitled to do the same?
I found your last post quite dismissive to me, it looks to me that the traits that you dislike in Miss Grudy are similar traits to your own. I am not fighting anyone else’s battle here other than my own………maybe battle is the wrong word, cause my suit of amour is in the dry cleaners and it not ready till Friday……… | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/17/2009 3:58:35 AM | You've nothing to apologize for Malasam. I really don't want to get into this with you - as I've already stated - the initial debate is finished. If you found my last post to be dismissive all I can say in response is that that is not what I had intended. And you're quite correct, battle is the wrong word but let's be frank here - you are taking up Ms Grundy's position on her behalf. It's obvious that you're her friend and I think what you're doing is genuinely honourable. However, it's also slightly on the unfair side, as, as I've already said - twice now - the matter is closed by Ms Grundy's request. Oh and PLEASE do not liken me to Ms Grundy in any way, shape, or form. I am nothing like her. See her 'Know-it-all's' (sic) thread for an example of what I mean.
Oh, by the way - a sharp rubdown with oil will get your suit of armour looking pristine in no time. Probably. | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/17/2009 7:28:44 AM | You too, eh? Fine.
Firstly, I did not misunderstand one single word that MalaSam wrote. I want that to be made perfectly clear. Secondly - you do not speak for MalaSam. What she wrote is contained in her own post which I've alreay read, and responded to. What you wrote is an interpretation of what she wrote - nothing more.
Thirdly - I do not identify with Miss Grundy. I know practically nothing about her except that she starts sniping threads about other members but hasn't got the damned courage to come out and say who she's talking about; that's Ms Grundy - defend it all you will - it's a disgusting low act - one which I'm more than happy to have stand in testament to her. Incidentally - your contributing to that thread in agreement is also a disgusting, low act. What is happening over there is an attempt at bullying; she's essentially attempting to gather around enough friends to have a go; I'm sure she'll succeed in garnering support but I don't particularly care.
'I've read some of your posts on other threads and you don't seem to be as intelligent or even as funny as Miss Grundy, so I really think that Malasam was not saying that you are like Grundy at all but rather that you are projecting your own inadequacies, things you don't like about your own self on to the woman. ' I'm not in competition with Ms Grundy although if you deem her more intelligent and humourous that's your opinion and you're more than entitled to it (although why you want to express that particular opinion is another thing;) I have no problem with that. As for the rest - you're gonna have to provide some evidence - opining as to the mental state of others usually requires a licence.
Finally - I've done nothing wrong - I've responded to all of these objections and personal attacks with nothing other than dignity. I've never been rude to anybody and I've never enlisted others to gang up on another member. Why don't you take the time, please, to reflect upon that rather than doing what you're doing? | |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 11:26:28 AM | You know full well what thread I am referring to so don't play that game. You CONTRIBUTED to that thread.
You did make reference to my mental state - you said I was engaged in a process of transference with Ms Grundy. That's pretty clear-cut I think you'll agree. Incidentally, I'm curious as to how you can come to such a clinical conclusion in a non-clinical setting. And more to the point - what qualifies you to make such a conclusion?
'Objections and personal attacks - where, when how?' You said in your last post that you read some of my posts - surely you must have seen me defend myself against such attacks and objections. For example, you brought up MalaSam's earlier objection and interpreted it in your own little way. So you DID see objections raised against me - there's no two ways about it. And just to make it even more painfully clear bar breaking out the sock puppets - I am currently engaged in responding to objections, however unfounded, that YOU ARE MAKING.
'Who is ganging up on you?' I really don't know how much clearer you want me to make things for you... the answer to that question is actually quoted in your OWN POST.
Now - those are your questions answered. I'm sure you can come up with some more although in truth I'd hope you wouldn't as at this juncture I am really not interested. Maybe you could jump back over to the other thread and have some fun there for a while?
One more thing - a series of questions isn't an argument. It's just a series of questions. | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/17/2009 11:53:19 AM | Ganging up, me & Happy????? I hope you do not think that Grundy has enlisted us to 'Gang up' on you.................I'm not that easily lead, even if she does carry a whip.
As for what i said earlier......I love reading both interpretations of what i ment, I find it fascinating
But the point I was trying to make was that
1. I have real all the posts on all the Irish threads
2. That everyone interprets post in their own individual way
But AWM missed the points I was making and interpreted then as me continuing on Miss Grundy’s debate, which I wasn’t. I think AWM that you were wrapped up with yours and Grundy’s debate and overlooked the above points that I was making, hence why i felt like my post was being dismissed | |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 1:31:01 PM | MalaSam
I understood what you said - but I still don't agree - and frankly I think you might have missed something I said. I said that I didn't want to reopen the debate that Ms Grundy closed as I felt such an action would be fairly petty given how it ended - (I now realise that such mannerly considerations don't count for much around here.) In any case because of that I wasn't able to address your objection. But I will now. I still think it's unrealistic to ask a person to read ALL of the threads since the inception of this forum in order to have an opinion. I do agree with you on your second point though - that people do interpret posts in a different way.
In any case I never intended to dismiss your original post. I don't think I did but I will have a look through the thread again. Does that sound fair enough to you at this point? | |
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Posted: 2/17/2009 1:38:46 PM | MalaSam
I neglected to mention in my last post that I never accused you specifically, or otherwise, of ganging up on me. That was a reference to Miss Grundy's 'know-it-all's' (sic) thread. I don't have any difficulty with you whatsoever as any argument you've made has been polite with what appear to be fairly good-natured ribbings. I like to think that I've been equally as polite with you. | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/17/2009 7:06:12 PM | If the people of Ireland are Irish then why did the Romans who were meticulous in recording their potential enemies and potential allies record the people living in the North East of what we call Ireland as the SCOTTII?
The people of what we call Scotland were recorded as PICTII.
The Roman also conquered the Iberian peninsula to the North of which are the bagpipe playing GALICIANS. (To west of Asturias and Cantabria today)
It is from GALICIA driven out by the Roman occupation that a King MIL and his sons CON and MUG arrive in SCOTTII territory.
From MUG you get MUNSTER (Mug's part) and Conns Remainder CONNAGHT
These are the men who were GALLIC or GAELIC as it became known.
So the indigenous race of people in (Ireland???) were SCOTTII and spoke SCOTTII not Gaelic or Gallic.
The SCOTTII discovered all of the islands NE of Scottii territory in the auld sod . One of their tribes was called the DAL RIADA another ARGIALLA from which ARGYLLE came.
The kingdom which stretched from SCOTTII (IRELAND) to Iceland in the North and over to VINLAND (NOVA SOTTIA) was known to the SCOTTII
The people of St Kilda were SCOTTII 150 miles out in Atlantic near Rockall.
When LEIF ERICSON (ERIC THE RED) was banished from the SCOTTII port of DUBLIN (Baille Ath Cliath) he knew from the Scottii that there was an island North of the Hebrides to go to.
He knew because SCOTTI from the Abbey at Bangor had already settled on an island SE of Iceland known today as PAPEY after the papes or Christians who settled there well before Eric arrived.
Eric knew the way to Vinland because SCOTTII had discovered VINLAND (NOVA SCOTIA) hundreds of years before him.
So when Kerry man BRENDAN set out to sail to VINLAND from Gaelic Kerry (MUNSTER) he knew it existed because SCOTTII had been there before him.
Later a certain Welshman named AMERIK saled from Bristol to VINLAND to get salted cod for the population of Bristol.
You should arrive in Bristol and discuss how to get there but a certain Christopher COLUMBUS.
That is why AMERIKA became AMERICA and not COLUMBIA or PHILLIPA.
So the SCOTTII are indeed a true race. Not Irish but SCOTTII nor indeed PICTII or CALEDONII and never GAELIC or GALLIC before MIL and his BLACK HAIRED BLUE EYED SPANISH CONQUIOSTADORES arrived c 150 AD.
So the SCOTTII were in SCOTIA long before the VIKINGS in 850 or the Welsh in 1300 or the SPANISH.
AMERICA should be remamed SCOTIA after it European discoverers . Iceland should be claimed by the SCOTII as dependent territory and all the oil and fishing rights on the sea bed from South of the old sod to Iceland and right over to Vinland immediately.
PS we also educated EUROPE in the dark ages after bringing CHRISTIANITY to SCOTIA. (Perhaps with hindsight not a good move)
Of course I am proud to be SCOTTISH?ie from the race of indigenous dwellers (C 12000 BC onwards) of the AULD SOD (ERIN) (known today as IRELAND) . | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/18/2009 3:52:51 AM | If the people of Ireland are Irish then why did the Romans who were meticulous in recording their potential enemies and potential allies record the people living in the North East of what we call Ireland as the SCOTTII?
Jesus, I ALMOST lost my will to live there reading that..
Here's what actually happened....
Maximus, a truely great warrior and hero to the Roman Empire wasn't great at the ole travelling by boat milarkey. He travelled by horse to see the missus in Spain before embarking on his journey. Five minutes after he set sail he was bringing up his lunch in chunks. He said to the lads.. Jaysus, (or Julius or whatever god he was praying to) get me onto dry land quick. They landed in Waterford some days later. He said to the natives.. here, if anyone asks, you're Scotish, got it?
It's true.. honest.. | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/18/2009 6:07:43 AM | MalaSam
Okay - to put the final FULL STOP on this debacle I can tell you that I have looked over the thread and yes, it does appear as though I was dismissive of one your earlier posts. Dismissive insofar as I simply neglected to address it - rather than casting it aside or ridiculing it. I'm sorry for that. I'll endeavour to be more vigilant in future.
Now - back on OT (actually this is my first time being OT in this particular thread) I have Scottish ancestors and I know very little about them. I think they might have been responsible for my reddy-blonde hair and green eyes though. Actually the Scots do have a lot in common with us Irish. We look the same and have a very similar sense of humour and outlook on life. Some blame the weather. I don't know... | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/19/2009 2:35:37 PM | Now for something even more interesting
West of Mongolia is a desert called Takla Makan.
In that desert is a place called Urumchi.
In the salt deposits they dug up mummies of tall men (compared to the chinese).
They have long noses(caucasian) and red coloured hair.
Does this remind you of the Scottii the men who lived in Erin before the Galician conquistadores (Gaels) arrived. Of course it does.
Maybe you need convincing/
Well the mummies were wearing clothes made from sheep wool (in a desert?)
And the wool was woven into cloth which is unmistakenly TARTAN cloth.
So if it looks like a SCOTTII and wears Tartan like a SCOTTII and has a red beard like a SCOTTII it must be a SCOTTII.
So what were these Ulstermen doing in the TAKLA MAKAN desert c 4500 yrs BC.
Obviously they were discovering CHINA.
So the SCOTTII discovered AMERICA and lead the way to CHINA 5000 yrs before Marco Polo.
Call yourselves Irish or Gaelic but you are in reality SCOTTII from the same place as me. Travellers of the world from Mongolia to Nova Scotia.
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 2/21/2009 7:16:35 AM | | Makes you think huh?? Ireland was invaded so many times that who knows where they came from. Sound familiar? I'm sure when my ancestors from Ireland came to America they weren't concerned who came from where. And to think i thought America was named after Americo Vaspucci. I wonder, did china need to be discovered? I do wish they had kept better records though. | |
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Posted: 2/22/2009 5:26:32 PM | A little foray to the Ireland forums from the uk ones.
My mum's was Irish, but her dad was an American who emigrated to Ireland, my dad was Cornish, but she forgave him for that, and no one understands my humor. So can I claim any Irish heritage, and would it be the top half or the botom half, or shall I just keep to my own uniqueness. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2009 3:25:25 PM | I am very proud to be Irish but fee fi fo fum I smell the blood of an English Man pretending to be someone he isn't on this very thread - ho hum
ACCORDING TO HAPPY
I am quite sure that the Ulster Giant Finn MaCoul or the Scottish lesser Giant Fingal never uttered the words Fee Fi Fo Fum in their lives.
Only a Giant who was a fairy would say Fee Fi Fo Fum.
A Giant who fumbled , fiddled and fidgeted with himself might say it but Finn and Fingal were bigger and better than any fairy tale giant. Was this Fee Fi Fo Fum giant of legend actually English?
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