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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:55:21 AM | Hmm? German/ Irish here ~
What sets the Irish apart for others beside the finely textured light skin and flaming red and brown hair and sturdy built , is the gift of limerick , rhyme ,story, dance and laughter and the love of music. This is depicted so well in the likes of Danny Kay, Benny Hill,****Van Dyke, James Robinson and many others that offered us much amusement with their improv . They shown us ~ you can be Irish without being Irish.
We enjoy such things greatly! They lighten our burden and bring twinkle to the eye.
Much like the Jews ~ we've learned to laugh at life and ourselves ~ but our music is much better! The sweet sound of a viola or violin brings joy to my heart. And a Irish "heart" flames bright with passion yet stays so light and free.
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/5/2009 11:55:22 AM |
Hmm? German/ Irish here ~
What sets the Irish apart for others beside the finely textured light skin and flaming red and brown hair and sturdy built , is the gift of limerick , rhyme ,story, dance and laughter and the love of music. This is depicted so well in the likes of Danny Kay, Benny Hill,****Van Dyke, James Robinson and many others that offered us much amusement with their improv . They shown us ~ you can be Irish without being Irish.
We enjoy such things greatly! They lighten our burden and bring twinkle to the eye.
Much like the Jews ~ we've learned to laugh at life and ourselves ~ but our music is much better! The sweet sound of a viola or violin brings joy to my heart. And a Irish "heart" flames bright with passion yet stays so light and free.
Who exactly is "we"?
German/Irish? Are there any Americans in America?
Red hair flaming, twinkling eyes, dancing to Limericks and telling stories.....where is that supposed to be happening!
This sounds like the Darby O'Gill school of Irish history as taught at the Ryans Daughter University in Mid West USA.
Benny Hill was a gay English comedian. Danny Kaye Kaminsky was the son of a Ukrainian tailor and he was born in Brooklyn New York.****Van Dyke was born in Missouri and Van Dyke is a Dutch name. And whoever James Robinson is he's got a British last name so what has he got to do with anything?
So if they were showing people how you can be "Irish" without actually being Irish were the Black and White minstrels showing people how you could be black without actually being a Negro?
The Hollywood version of Ireland is a myth, grow up!
PS: I’m sure the Palestinians being bombed to oblivion in Gaza a few months ago were just delighted when the Jolly Jews arrived to cover up the war crimes while heartily laughing at them selves in their tanks and helicopter gunships! | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/8/2009 5:27:00 PM | | I am an American- Irish – Jew. After reading this thread I have come to understand I am just “hated” by "everyone”…lol and here all along I thought it was Anti-Semitism I’m happy to find out it’s actually being American … wait… Irish … no, wait…. American-Irish…. Jew…????....Well, what can I say, I suppose that is just life on life’s terms….lol | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:44:52 PM | Many ~ but not all Americans are part of all these people ~ I have no great bias myself ~ and see myself as many races of people. but mostly German / Irish, If I lived a life in a small community or Island ~ I could see how people would be sensitive to regional differences.
So forgive me if I offend. ~ I was thinking Benny Hill was a Brit. ~ From here ~ That's a short distance from Ireland yet I know the difference is profound and the history violent.
Most American are mongers ~ or use to be. ~ We getting a lot of East Indians and Arabs these days. They seem to like our women ~ I can't say the same about theirs. Not hardly a fair trade if you ask me.
American Anglo's really fit best us I suppose. ~ I still love good stories and the sweet sound of a violin or viola and quality firearms and potatoes and admire both the German and Irish
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/10/2009 1:13:13 PM | The OP was stupid to begin with. What can you expect from geographically confused Americans to know when someone Irish can't even get one of the basic myths right. Even in folklore no one named Kevin is claimed to have discovered America.
You could be forgiven for thinking America was some dreadful empty place considering how many of it's citizens want to claim they are part-{any where else but America}.
I've no idea why this is called the Irish forum.
Maybe it should be called the "F**k off this is the Ireland section"! | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/10/2009 7:32:03 PM | I could ask you want bothers you so that you can't be light hearted about the thread ~~ but truly I don't care to know. ~ Glummy Gus know no boundries and has no limits where ever he's from and where ever he goes.
I carry the genes of an ancient tribe of peoples, I wear it, I own it and I claim it, for the better or worst of it. And when all else fails, blood is thicker then mud. One should accept all of their parts and know where they came from.
What you are and where you came from doesn't always imply the same thing.
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/11/2009 2:40:35 AM | | You’re absolutely right ‘Dancecard’ whatever it was you said, but personally coming from a long line of inbreeds that eventually mutated into humpback cross-eyed dwarfs and as a family emigrated from the ‘ole Country’ to spread our contaminated genes around the world, and I have say very successfully if we look at you Americans, but hey I’m just kidding we love you guys really you’re such an easy target! | |
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Posted: 11/12/2009 1:58:40 AM | | You’re right ‘m cubed’ well said and I have to say it’s nice to meet an American with more than two brain cells to rub together and of course I mean that in the nicest possible way, but the fact is this oirish forum is so damn dull if it wasn’t for us foreigners it would die a natural death, it would cease to exist it would indeed be a dead forum! I’m wondering if the reason is because the Irish have trouble weeding and riting but more likely it’s because they’re too busy down at the pub! Still, as long as you Yanks continue to annoy with your soppy misplaced sentiment you can be sure of a caustic reply this side of the pond! | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/13/2009 3:22:34 PM | Msg 166, didn't you write previously on this forum that you are actually Irish yourself? That you had emigrated to England via Southhampton, quite by accident, almost three years ago?
Surely after three years living in the UK you can't possibly consider yourself to be a British national..citizen yes but national..I don't think so.
There are 60 million people worldwide who claim to be of Irish descent. The Irish government give passports to people who's grandparents were born here but emigrated to other countries. So, incredibly, the Irish government seem to believe that 1st and 2nd generation Irish people are as Irish as us Irish who've lived here for most of our lives.
I was reading a really interesting forum the other night called Dublin dot ie, it was full of expats as well as proper Dubs reminiscing about life in Dublin, all from different generations and living all over the world.
Good read actually with some great threads showing pictures of Dublin throughout the years of the last century.
I'd recommend it to all the ex pats.
Also, if you are of Irish descent, you might find checking out the 1911 census interesting. I discovered my mother's mother's mother's details on there along with my father's mother's mother's - it was quite funny reading their hand written details about the occupants of their house, their marital status. My father's mother had really good writing, I was very impressed!!
Both my great grandmother's had a servant each, both had been widowed after 34 years of marriage, both were in their 60's at the time of the census, both had lodgers, both had loads of children...one had given birth to 12 babies but only 9 had survived, the other, 9 births with 6 surviving children..
I have to see what the 1934 census reveals about my parent's parents yet. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2009 1:59:47 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sure I tried tracing my family tree but records ended at Dublin zoo and that terrible storm of 1823 when all the primates escaped and mixed with the local population which of course accounts for some our colourful eccentric Irish character to be sure!
This could also explain why my family went into the banana importing business and became very successful. I still feel the urge to climb trees now and then but hey it’s just a harmless pastime! | |
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Posted: 11/14/2009 9:36:51 PM | | Robbie X… point well taken… however, I cannot say I will never impose upon an “Irish” thread again… what can I say… I’m American, I’m suppose to be an *ss-whole… lol…awe… we are thick-skinned though so we can take the caustic reply on that side of "that side of the pond"…lol. Thank all of you for allowing my useless two cents worth of rubbish… | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/15/2009 6:44:45 AM |
Robbie X… point well taken… however, I cannot say I will never impose upon an “Irish” thread again… what can I say… I’m American, I’m suppose to be an *ss-whole… lol…awe… we are thick-skinned though so we can take the caustic reply on that side of "that side of the pond"…lol. Thank all of you for allowing my useless two cents worth of rubbish…
You're doing your self an injustice. Americans who actually think they're Americans are not the problem. In fact some of the most innovative people in the world are Americans. The two most generous billionaires in the world, Mr Gates and Mr. Buffet, are American. As with everywhere else, in America you'll find the best right alongside the worst.
The problem is the Oirish (American)s who suffer from cultural schizophrenia. They are born in America, they live in America, they are products of American culture, they benefit from being American citizens. But after all that they want to pretend they are somehow part of a country about which most of them are completely ignorant.
On a vitsit to Ireland that dough brain Bill OReilly of Fox News was asked on radio what did he think of the peace process in Northern Ireland. He replied live on air "Well ah think the shooting of that woman journalist was an important turning point".
The shooting of Veronica Gurein had nothing to do with the peace process in Northern Ireland. Only a complete and utter gobshite would think it did.
Then you have low lifes like Bill Donohue who claims to be Irish though he'd probably need a SatNav to get out of the airport.
This is him calling into the Matt Cooper show on TodayFM in Ireland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLlxAgMO-w&feature=PlayList&p=57394C3C6B3D82B5&index=0&playnext=1
The things they (Oirish Americans) think they are against, for example gays and lesbians marching in their overblown Plastic Paddy parade, they associate with Ireland instead of their Roman Catholic bigotry. Most of them are more loyal to Herr Ratzingers little principality in Italy then they are to Ireland or America.
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American.
The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else."
Theodore Roosevelt, October 12, 1915. | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/15/2009 7:59:32 AM |
And what did Theodore Roosevelt have to say about women in America, or do they matter?
See we have dumb people in Ireland too!
How is one statement on a particular subject qualified by a statement on a different subject.? Take a week.......
If you don't know what he said about women you might try an internet search engine. Everybody uses them these days....even children!
Ted Kennedy was a great Irish American, may he rest in peace.
Why don't you quote him instead!!
Would that be the Ted Kennedy whose family fortune was built on the profits from crime? The guy who left a lot of unanswered questions behind regarding the death of Mary Jo Kopechne (July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969). | |
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| Hands up and all say 'aye' if you are Irish and believe that means we are a unique race ..
Posted: 11/15/2009 8:06:06 AM |
Would that be the Ted Kennedy whose family fortune was built on the profits from crime? The guy who left a lot of unanswered questions behind regarding the death of Mary Jo Kopechne (July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969).
He'd be the great American Statesman who made a real difference to the peace process in Ireland.
Are you trying to say that the only people who are worthy of recognition for good deeds are those who are holier than thou?
If you don't know what he said about women you might try an internet search engine. Everybody uses them these days....even children!
Or maybe you could try and be less sexist when it comes to quoting nonsense from a president of America who was clearly using political rhetoric to brainwash American citizens. | |
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