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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/10/2009 2:42:53 PM | I thought we all knew by now that both men and women know at first sight if it is on or not. No man or woman under normal circumstances dates some " undesireable " and sex is included in both the long and short term prospects for both men and women..
Women tend to dangle the prospect to their advantage and men conditoned to the rules of engagement indulge them. ...just like a woman is defined physically so is she in dating circles. " No kissing on the first date " etc etc.
I have personally always felt that women were more concerned with the impressions she/they leave with the man/men she desires and not her reality. What it takes to real him in etc.. and the real woman shows up some where later on. In that light if she feels you are looking for a "good girl" that is what she presents you with ...If she is out for fun and games she presents you with the she male etc.. etc..and its all about paying attention when its all said and done.................everybody wants sex the games are played before and after. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/10/2009 3:40:54 PM | I thought we all knew by now that both men and women know at first sight if it is on or not
Can't answer for everyone but I don't know on first sight if I want a person or not. I need a couple of meetings to know wether or not the guy is someone I'd be interested in sleeping with.
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/10/2009 4:42:19 PM | Most women that have any brains know that the first and foremost reason men even hang around a woman period is to get sex (Duhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!) So, knowing that, I`m not going to lead a man on. I won`t accept a dinner date or anything of a romantic nature from a man that I don`t think there might be a spark. Why waste his time and make a big mess for yourself.
But what really ticks me off is when you tell them straight out that you aren`t interested in sex,but wouldn`t mind cooking them a home cooked meal once in a while for the company as friends, why don`t they hear that? They come over, make them a really great meal, they eat it and enjoy it. Then cop an attitude if they don`t get any afterwords, after you already told them that wasn`t in the package. Pisses me right off. You are a gracious host and then get that crap thrown in your face after you were very clear. NO more soup for them!!!!!!!!!!! Ungreatful pricks! Not all are this way, but most. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/10/2009 9:24:00 PM | ^^^ I wonder why you are having so many problems of this nature DW? Are you giving off a flirty vibe or something? You have written so many posts of this nature, I now believe that the problem is yours alone.. Not the men's that you are encountering.
Most of us have gone through what you describe at one time or another.. but not the majority or EVERY time???
I wish you better luck in the future.. it's unfortunate to think that you're never happy with the way things pan out for you.  | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/10/2009 11:32:57 PM | But what really ticks me off is when you tell them straight out that you aren`t interested in sex,but wouldn`t mind cooking them a home cooked meal once in a while for the company as friends, why don`t they hear that?
I do, but I'd probably decline the invitation. My company is valuable.
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/13/2009 4:51:23 PM | | All I can say, why do women like dogs?...Would u want it done to ur mom, sister, niece, cousin?...Makes no sense..I don't know if u "needy guys" know that their are prostitutes that actually sell theirselves, I'm sure a 50 would get u somewhere!..Somehow understand that their are some easy girls but there is also some ladys.. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 4/22/2009 11:45:28 AM | It bee said that many lie about how man and women how few and that begins the lie in relationships. If and when you tell a woman that she is heaven on earth she will gladly want to hear it and appreciate you for it........still the real issue is individual in women and that some want to pretend that love and sex are the same thing and some dont and all those in between. Women and men alike look to hear a lie when they need it and it really aint all bad and that profound when its the sweet nothing lie when you are having a bad day.......................
My answer is to " beg " for truth where it really matters to me and that not how she feels about it but how I do. If I feel a need to know something about her for any given reason I will say that........if we are going to work then I need to know the whole truth on " this ". That in this opinion is the only way it might work and if they lie then at best it aint my fault and I move on...........regretably at times. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 9:00:09 AM | | i don't mind a guy coming right out and saying what he wants, but i wouldn't have sex with a guy who didn't like me... commitment not required, but at least enough conversation for a mutual understanding, and wouldn't have sex with a guy once if i wasn't willing to do it more than once..... unless he was VERY BAD... | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 9:38:47 AM | I would prefer someone to be honest, and upfront about their "motives". That way, it would be up to me to decide if I want to play, or not. (Highly unlikely, if that was his sole purpose. I would rather know what I'm dealing with, than be fooled, and hurt later.)
With regard to dating a prospect for a possible relationship, if he never ever even hinted at, or mentioned sex, I would get suspicious, and wonder if there was something wrong with him. Physical/Sexual chemistry forms part of the equation in terms of compatibility.
Think it's best when both partners are on the same page. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 9:56:26 AM | IMO I think men need to be upfront about wanting sex from the woman. So that way we know whether or not to waste our time even talking to the guy if we are looking to date or have a longterm relationship. I don't like when men say they are looking for long term but when you do have sex with them finally, that's the last you hear from them. It's outrageous. I hear from alot of men that women are the same way though.
Message: Reading many of the threads over the last few weeks I get the impression that most women would prefer if a guy goes through the charade of acting interested in a long term relationship with them, taking them out and not broaching the subject of sex instead of saying right out that he wants to have sex with them. Is this what women really want? Why? I don't think I could lie like that whatever women say, but I'm interested in your thoughts on this. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 10:51:05 AM | i think for the most part women want the samething we want, which is sex. i just think that we need to make a connection first, and if it is there, then there will be no asking for it.
if you are trying to get sex from a woman without making a connection, then, for the most part, you won't get anything from them. so i think that the approach the OP is taking is incorrect. you never ask a woman for sex, and it is a huge turn off, if you lie to them. all you need is to have a little bit of fun, a bit of flirting, and allow things to unfold. at the end of it all, our bodies will be wanting it, n it is bad etiquette to ask for it. if you are asking, you are not getting it! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 10:56:31 AM | | Guess some women might want to play the game.......but I think men or women for that matter.... should definately say up front If Its just sex they want and nothing more. Be up front about what you want!! Life is way to short to play games. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 12:54:36 PM | It doesn't matter what she "wants," just be honest with her. The "how" is really the tough part, I'd say. I can't imagine a woman wanting to be lied to, but she may take offense if you're too explicit or eager (esp. eager--ewww!). Some women enjoy the affectations of romance even if it's ultimately a play-date because they have issues with feeling trampy or (ahem) there's a mismatch and she's gonna need some extra motivation to seal the deal. Be mature, say what you actually want and don't paw her like it's prom nite, make her feel special, WITHOUT expecting anything in return. She don't owe you.
Although not saying anything at all may make it easier for her to "let you" make a move on her (wink). Man, that was cheesy of me. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 1:03:12 PM | | Yeah, I think the problem here is guys watching too much porn. Those women are paid, there's a difference. Many girls have told me about guys almost flat-out begging them for sex (and if you have to give her a sales pitch to get some, you might want to work on your pride). If you want to get inside someone's body, you might want to make sure they desire you, too. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 5/30/2009 1:17:07 PM | Yeah and lots of guys have told me about great experiences where the girl just wanted to fool around too. You can find it, but you're not entitled to it, just b/c you're in the mood.
the "do women want men to lie to them" question already shows condescending and underhanded intentions. if you're honest with them, and things work out, i'm sure you''ll enjoy it more and not feel like a creep either. | |
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