| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/3/2009 9:21:55 PM |
Now who is being dishonest? You most certainly did change it. No point in even reponding to this anymore.
Does anybody knows if a MOD or Admin can determine when last a profile was updated?
I am being 100% honest here. blondblueyed is a liar. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/3/2009 9:28:11 PM | | The word relationship was not after long term when I copied it in the previous post from your profile, but of course only me and just about every other man on the planet are the liars, right? Good luck with that analogy. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/3/2009 10:09:54 PM |
The real problem is that these men who just want sex don't like getting turned down for such, so they lie to get what they want instead of finding someone whos desires are compatible with theirs.
Now that, I will agree with 100%....
It's probably a big blow to a lot of male egos to get turned down for sex. So, to them, the end, justifies the means.... | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/3/2009 10:14:07 PM |
Now I understand that after you have sex and you do the fade, or anyother cowardly way to back out then that would be clear by the way you've acted that you didn't want long term.. but .. only after you scored.
Sorry, it's not my style. I'm the guy who (called/sent flowers/took her out again/ made her feel special for what we did) the next day....
And other than a couple of ladies who have unfortunately passed away since we dated, I have no fear of encountering any woman I have had sex with in the past. I can hold my head up, smile and say "Hi" without worrying that she was upset about how we parted... | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/3/2009 10:21:06 PM |
The word relationship was not after long term when I copied it in the previous post from your profile, but of course only me and just about every other man on the planet are the liars, right? Good luck with that analogy.
I don't want to keep going back and forth with this but if Mods or the Admin can determine when a profile was last updated then they can tell us the truth.
Other than that I'm sure there have been others who visited my page before roughly 11:30 tonight, and maybe they can tell us whether it read "I am looking to fool around but open to a long term, but " or I am "looking to meet someone to fool around with, yet open to a long term relationship." Without the word "relationship" it would have struck me as odd, and perhaps others can tell us if they noticed the absence of that word when they read it too.
I don't know what you're talking about when you say "only me and just about every other man on the planet are the liars" since you're the only one saying the word 'relationship' wasn't there.
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 4:08:21 AM | | If a man's objective is sex and nothing more then I would rather he be upfront and brutally honest about before he goes thru the trouble of hiding behind dates and shallow wishes and promises. It would save us both alot of time and effort. I think if a man is genuine and has honest intentions that he will take a respectable amount of time to spend with his woman - whether it be thru dating etc- before he attempts a move in a sexual direction. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 5:49:59 AM |
I think if a man is genuine and has honest intentions that he will take a respectable amount of time to spend with his woman - whether it be thru dating etc- before he attempts a move in a sexual direction.
I agree with this. But more often than not men aren't genuine about their intentions (because if they were, they know they most likely won't get what they really want). | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 7:04:19 AM |
But more often than not men aren't genuine about their intentions
I disagree, because I want more than just sex,
But lets "assume" for a second, all I wanted was sex, I would tell her that too, here is why, I'm not going to live my life with the intention of hurting someone deliberity.. just to get what I want. I couldn't live with that deceit. Not only that, how could I ever raise my son, to respect people/women, when he will never respect him self, because of lies and deceit.. that I might have shown....
(because if they were, they know they most likely won't get what they really want).
Getting what we want does not justify lying.. Honesty will also get us what we want, it's our presentation of honesty that works,
I can walk into any room, meet a man or a woman, "friend or foe" that I have known in my past. Have a conversation with out bowing my head in shame, because I'm respected for who i am,, How dose one earn that respect, by being honest among so many other things,,
I'd say the truth in always the best policy in all cases,
My Integrity is the utmost important quality that I have to offer, it's crucial if my life. If we expect to be respected, by the people around us,, if I were to lose that to get what i want, I would lose everyone around me.. that's not going to happen any time soon just to get what I want.. because I already have what I want,, that is respect in my humble opinion.. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 7:22:59 AM | ok, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but to me it looks like you're asking if men should just be upfront and say that they're interested in sex with the woman they're dating instead of pretending that sex is not even on their minds. I don't see you writing about men JUST wanting sex. Do have that right?
Maybe it's because I grew up in Europe, but I'd actually welcome the discussion. I don't mind talking about it. I think it's a given, that if we're on a date that we're somewhat evaluating the other as a sexual partner. Otherwise we'd just be looking for friends. Sex is a very important part of a relationship.
So, if the subject of sex was brought up I would probably say something like: I love sex, but I'm not in the comfort zone with you yet that I'm ready to have sex with you.' I'd probably then would continue the conversation to find out what each other's sexual 'style' is. Someone very traditional probably wouldn't be very compatible with someone kind of kinky. So, I think it's great if the subject is on the table, everybody knows they're not going to have sex today, but we can talk about it. It's a turn on, imo ;-) | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 2:16:51 PM |
I agree with this. But more often than not men aren't genuine about their intentions (because if they were, they know they most likely won't get what they really want). *sighs with exasperation*
Those who don't have "game" or are unappealing to the "target" may have a hard time not really getting what they want.
Perhaps those that are well versed in "the art of seduction" are more successful when they are upfront about their intentions before they get bizzy.
Also.. (And perhaps) those that lie about their intentions (or omit disclosing their true intent) may have something to hide about themselves???
The Opost asks the question: "Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?" I think the replies in this thread are conclusive enough to say; No, we DO NOT want you to lie. All parties are entitled to the benefit of informed consent prior to making a decision.
Bottom line: What one rejects .. The next may not.
Hone your seduction skills.. Be totally honest about your intent PRIOR to gettin bizzy and be confident enough to accept the answer whether it is what you want to hear or not. It’s called living integrally ~ nes pa? | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/6/2009 2:45:08 PM | | What women don't want is what motivates you. It seems you "just want them for sex" and are looking for a way to trick them into it. However, there are plenty of women out there, especially online, who only want sex and it is pretty obvious. Pick them and be honest. Be honest anyway. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/8/2009 9:33:49 AM | this woman......prefers honesty.
If you're only out for sex.....tell me that......I'll decide if that's all I want.....or not and let u know accordingly!
definitely agree...........I hate liars......and people that have hidden agenda.......no b*lls to tell the truth! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/8/2009 9:40:21 AM |
We want the men who just want sex to go and find women who just want sex, and we want those same men to not annoy the women who are looking for longterm so they can find a man who is also looking for longterm.
If you know a woman is looking for longterm and you're not... Don't go there. Then you won't have to lie..!! Tricking a woman into thinking you want a relationship just so you can get laid is not cool.
I have NEVER understood why men / or women do that. It must be the thrill of the chase and conquer.......but is so heartless...
..and as my old hillbilly grandma used to say
" Hi -O children......the old cat comes back!"
I try never to do to someone that I would not like done to me. I hate retribution!! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/12/2009 7:49:46 PM | | I would rather someone be upfront because who knows, maybe what they want is the same thing I want. There have been times when I wished I could find a NSA relationship but was too afraid to admit to it and hence seek one out. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/13/2009 1:07:37 PM | I think if people are honest in their profiles (and I have seen a lot of men/women who are,) then you know where that person is coming from and what they are looking/not looking for in a relationship. I don't like games or surprises.
People have different reasons for wanting to meet and that's okay in my book. As long as you are upfront and honest then we have a choice. No one gets hurt or later feels betrayed this way.
I say keep it real at all times. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 6:38:06 AM |
I would rather someone be upfront because who knows, maybe what they want is the same thing I want. There have been times when I wished I could find a NSA relationship but was too afraid to admit to it and hence seek one out.
See, because guys know that being honest is almost certainly going to lead to rejection (it's that way where I now live, but I know that not every where is the same), a guy and a woman could really want the same thing (NSA) and yet the guy feels he can't honest about what he wants (if he wants to actually get laid) and so puts on a big pretense (about wanting a LTR, etc.). | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 7:43:29 AM | | NO...do NOT lie to me about wanting sex..... IF you are only seeking sex, I will have 100% more respect for you if you tell me that up front, and that way you also dont lead me on to believe you want something else when the fact is you dont!!....If you lie...im TOTALLY done with you weather I would have had sex with you or not! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 8:12:23 AM | VARINIA, I'M WITH YOU.....I BELIEVE SEXUALITY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHO WE ARE AS HUMAN BEINGS....AND IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. IF WE ARE ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE AND ON A DATE..PUT IT ON THE TABLE AS TOO WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SO YOU'RE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE....I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TOO BE LIED TOO, AND I AM SMART ENOUGH, MATURE ENOUGH ,.TOO REALIZE THAT THE MAJORITY OF MEN WOULD SLEEP WITH ME (OR ANY WOMAN FOR THAT MATTER) 5MINS AFTER MEETING. ONCE THEY REALIZE THAT IS NOT WHO I AM OR WHAT I WANT.....THEY CAN LEAVE OR STAY...BUT THEY PLAY BY MY RULES.....OR THEY DON'T PLAY.....MY PROFILE STATES LTR.....YOU CAN ONLY BASE THAT ON....KNOWING WHO A PERSON IS...AND THAT TAKES TIME...DEFINATELY MORE THAN 5MINS...MORE THAN A FEW DATES...AND YES MORE MORE THAN A FEW WEEKS... | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 8:25:12 AM |
If a man's objective is sex and nothing more then I would rather he be upfront and brutally honest
OK, a shade of gray here, what if a guy's objective is mainly sex but he's open to other, larger possibilities?
I venture that that is a more accurate portrayal of most of the so-called "players" out there. But should the guy say that? I would bet that his "success" rate would be just as low as if he had said that he was only after sex. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 8:27:23 AM | | RDCNORM....LIKE YOU , I HAVE A SEXUAL PERSONALITY...AND I AM RESPECTFUL OF IT...AND WANT THE MEN I MEET TOO REALIZE THAT........I DO HAVE QUESTION......DO MEN IN GENERAL BELIEVE IF A WOMAN "LOOKS THAT CERTAIN WAY" THAN THEREFORE SHE MUST......SLEEP AROUND.? I TOO EMBRACE THE "GIFTS "I WAS GIVEN........BUT AM UPFRONT ABOUT NOT SHARING THEM WITH JUST ANYONE. .....................IF THE POSSIBILY OF A LTR IS THERE AND THE FEELINGS ARE THERE...THEN AND ONLY THEN DOES THE PLAYFUL SIDE COME INTO PLAY | |
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