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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 11:08:40 AM | Kudos to you sister! That is it exactly. Men will romance the heck out of you for weeks just to get one night of sex. If a woman straight up tells a man that she just wants him for sex they are turned off and think you are a slut but if they use you and make you feel like one they think that is perfectly fine. Times have changed and there are women out there who only need/want a man for sex so face it guys some of the women are doing the same thing to you! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 11:19:19 AM | Way back when I was 12-15 or so my father and my step-father both provided me with this astonishing piece of information to keep utmost in my mind with dealing with men: All men want to have sex!
Now if you consider that "all men want to have sex" when dealing with men who approach you, then you will never be surprised when one makes his move. Some will tell you flat out in their first email, IM or phone call and others might disguise their intent behind dinner, flowers and pretty poems dragged over the course of days, weeks, months...and so on.
Personally, I think ALL PEOPLE want to have sex so what it really boils down to is, within what context do you want to have "your sexual experience in"? A relationship? First date? Booty call? FWB? F*ck buddy?....what context fits you? What makes you comfortable and happy? If you do not like the guy's approach then either tell him straight up or don't, and deal with what happens from there. Extract yourself from the party or jump in....
Then move on accordingly. Seems simple...??? | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 11:19:35 AM | AMEN...Quietladywildheart
Fellows give us some credit . We can smell a set up from a mile away
Did you ever thing that sometimes all we want is to get rid of a tension headache and you happen to be the pain reliever of choice ?  | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 12:53:19 PM | Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Yes they do. If my understanding of the question is correct then yes. For some reason I think that some women want to believe that when a man get dressed up, puts on his best cologne, and goes out for the night he thinks," I hope I meet an interesting woman that is looking for a long term relationship tonight". NOPE sorry not gonna happen.He's out looking for SEX. They force men to play the game and then cry about men always playing games. They want us to jump through the hoops because if they break your spirit from the beginning and got you doing it for the rest of your life. Proove you really like me. Take me to dinner, Spend some money on me, and finally beg for sex. It all starts a trend. Where the woman is in charge and in control of everything just the way they like it.
Let Me Break It Down:
Man Hungry = Looks for Food.
Man Thirsty = Looks for water.
Man Horny = Looks for Sex.
By their logic it's like man hungry look for a field to plant seeds to grow food.
Man thirsty dig 20 foot well , Man horny string man along for as long as possible without putting out to ensure that man will stay around enough to harvest the crops and also so not to feel like tramp. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 1:22:12 PM | I love it when confused people dig them selves a big hole!
First off, you're way off base if you think I lie to get sex. I don't. It's just not me. I'm just describing what I see happening.
You sound like you are like me in often wanting just sex yet go through the charade of dating in order to get it. I really despise that. I think that way men are likely to find themselves relationships in which they are not truly into the woman. It is often in situations like that that women get mistreated.
What a major contradiction! Or maybe a sign that someone needs a lesson in honesty!
If you "go through the motions" to get sex, you are lying!
I don't get why so many women are on my case. I am the admirable one, I think, and most men are the opposite. Being confused and misleading people or as you said going through the motions is in no way admirable!
If you give any credence at all to what I've said I'm obviously not going to let a woman know that I don't want a LTR with her after we have sex.
after we have sex But you have already stated that you will go through the motions to get the sex. Leading them to believe that you are interested in them for more then just sex to get sex, then you get completely honest!  | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 5:31:18 PM |
You sound like you are like me in often wanting just sex yet go through the charade of dating in order to get it. I really despise that. I think that way men are likely to find themselves relationships in which they are not truly into the woman. It is often in situations like that that women get mistreated.
What a major contradiction! Or maybe a sign that someone needs a lesson in honesty!
If you "go through the motions" to get sex, you are lying!
Being confused and misleading people or as you said going through the motions is in no way admirable!
after we have sex But you have already stated that you will go through the motions to get the sex. Leading them to believe that you are interested in them for more then just sex to get sex, then you get completely honest!
I think you misunderstand me. When I said, "You sound like you are like me in often wanting just sex yet go through the charade of dating in order to get it" I meant that, unlike me, the guy I was replying to goes through the charade of dating when what he (like me) often wants is sex. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 7:24:15 PM | some Women will believe anything; look at all the threads and posts from women who have been hurt by guys that they flat out believed everything they say. They choose terrible guys, act like they had no clue they were scumbags and then say all guys suck; no the guys they choose are.
Also, any woman that thinks that most guys online aren't feeding them crap so they can have sex with them is beyond naive. It's kind of like women who have photos of them making out with other girls, partying like rock stars in several photos and then tell people they are good girls who rarely go out and dont like clubs. lol
I wasn't born yesterday. Most people online lie about something. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 7:28:54 PM |
Kudos to you sister! That is it exactly. Men will romance the heck out of you for weeks just to get one night of sex. If a woman straight up tells a man that she just wants him for sex they are turned off and think you are a slut but if they use you and make you feel like one they think that is perfectly fine. Times have changed and there are women out there who only need/want a man for sex so face it guys some of the women are doing the same thing to you!
First of all this is crap; its the classic statement women now use to be just as sleazy as guys are. Women used to be the better sex; now they are as sleazy, and cheat as much as men do.
Many men are slimy scumbags; they hurt people and dont care; you are now sticking out your tongue because women are now the same type of scumbags? grow up
Character is what character does; it's not what you say or what you try to show that proves who you are; its your actions that prove it.
The divorce rate is 53%; the highest in U.S. history. STD rate is the highest in the history of the U.S. The National Institute of Health said 25% of those under 25 now have an STD. 45% in the African American community.
Lots of selfish sleazy people who are extremely dysfunctional in relationships. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/14/2009 11:19:51 PM | I must say that I don't want my man to lie about wanting sex. If he ain't up front about it then he sure ain't getting it from me.
But most men out there in the world nowadays will do whatever it takes just so they can get their rocks off and then ditch the woman or give them a line like "I got to find myself". Even though they are out screwing around but wanting you to wait on them. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 5:56:24 AM | | If you would of asked me this question in my twenties I would of said I prefer them to lie to me. But ask me now and I would say I rather them be upfront and tell me. Why? Because I know now that men fall in lust and then they fall in love. So either way whether they lie or don't. 80 percent of the time a man goes to bed with a girl its because they are playing you. Now the trick is how to make them fall in lust with ya. Cause once you do that the next step is LOVE. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 6:31:41 AM | | I prefer a man who doesn't lie. Be honest, chances are I have worse skeletons in my closet. Mind you, I am not looking for "the one", so I am much easier than women who want their men to be faithful, never look around, and never ever lie to their face. People who are not honest with themselves tend not to be honest with others. But if you see a woman you HAVE to have, chances are a few little white lies happen along the way. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 6:47:24 AM | Well let me tell ya ladies contrary to believe all men are not alike. You have good and bad in both sexes. But most have to have the 10's in both too even talk to them and therefore wind up with all the players that hit and run.  | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 6:47:24 AM | | While I have yet to meet anyone on this sight...I have always been honest with my intentions ....dont see any difference...doesnt matter wether I compliment woman or ask them dumb stuff...I get few responses....and I dont play them..in the end it doesnt work...yes I am saying I see alot of game players on both sides! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 8:28:47 AM | {LET ME BREAK IT DOWN MAN HUNGRY=LOOKS FOR FOOD ...MAN THIRSTY=LOOKS FOR WATER... MAN HORNY=LOOKS FOR SEX] My oh my, we have a real live caveman here. FIRST LET ME SAY NOW I AM YELLING I WOULD VENTURE A GUESS THAT IT IS THE WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE AT THE MOMENT,PREPARING YOUR FOOD....BRINGING YOU YOUR WATER , OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU'RE DRINKING...OH YEAH NOW BABY TAKE CARE OF MY SEXUAL NEEDS BEFORE I DUMP YOUR AZZ, BECAUSE YOU FOOLISH CONTROLING WOMAN EXPECT RESPECT AND TO BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR OWN LIFE. AND I CAN'T AND WON'T HONOR THAT....I DON'T PLAY GAMES SO I CAN'T DO THAT. Life is a game, men play one way woman play another. It's not too say we don't want the same things out of life, we just go about in a different way. I personally appreciate the differences between men and woman and learn something new everyday about the opposite sex.....BUT THIS IS 2009.....CAVEMEN HAVE BEEN EXTINCT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.....READ YOUR LAST SENTENCE....MEN ARE SUPPOSE TOO STAY AROUND LONE ENOUGH (GOD FORBID YOU STAY ANY LONGER THAN NECESSARY) TOO HARVEST THE CROP..SO WOMAN CAN COOK IT AND FEED YOU.... Why not celebrate our differences.......and enjoy the SEX when the time comes.....so you don't make us feel like a tramp. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 8:43:23 AM |
While I have yet to meet anyone on this sight...I have always been honest with my intentions ....dont see any difference...doesnt matter wether I compliment woman or ask them dumb stuff...I get few responses....and I dont play them..in the end it doesnt work...yes I am saying I see alot of game players on both sides! Well.. I suspect that your quandry has little to do with the fact that you're honest. I'd say that it relates more to
1. You not posting a photo (do you at least send one with your emails?)
2. You're emailing women that do not have the same mindset or relationship goals as you do.
3. You're (like many men in the I'm a 'nice guy' threads) can't comprehend that some women that you find attractive (no matter what type of relationship you/her are looking for) they will just not see you in the same light.
You being honest in your profile probably has little to do with you getting few responses. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 8:58:27 AM | Many men are slimy scumbags; they hurt people and dont care; you are now sticking out your tongue because women are now the same type of scumbags? grow up
I am as grown up as I ever want to be. I was making a point. Obviously you are an uptight conservative when it comes to sex. I don't have any issues with people having casual sex as long as its consensual between both parties. Men use the nice women instead of going to the sites where the women are being upfront about wanting the same thing. Why is this? | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 9:15:17 AM | As such with many women they do the same thing. They go out and expect a 10 when them theirselves are only about a 5. Not too be misunderstood that it is all women, there are men that are not the same. Just like women need to realize that not all men are like that.
The point is that if you think your too good for someone, it probably you that has the issue in it.  | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 9:23:29 AM |
I think you misunderstand me.
Seems like just about everyone does! We are getting your point, we just don't agree with it!
They force men to play the gme and then cry about men always playing games How childish, if you want some get a prostitute!
Then you say:
That's basically one of the things I've been trying to say. Why can't women acknowledge this?
In your theory or concept of life, people make decisions by what others do rather then being responsible for their own choices! That works out very convenient for the immature morally bankrupt people with no character!
A person is not forced to lie and play a game with others! I is a choice they make to get what they want ! To look for understanding and acceptance for doing so by blaming the victim is asinine!
How different would the thoughts on this be if it was your sister or mother getting played for sex? Should they just put out to save themselves from being lied to or played? | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/15/2009 9:51:08 AM | I also assume that any advance made by a man is in essence one of a sexual interest, be it stated or not. Othewise most men don`t bother even talking to you. They are goal orieneted. Knowing that as a given, you can now analyze their morals, values, and objectives through their approach.
Perfect example: a man that is interested in me recently told me that he loves sex and
normally is used to first date sex. I told him that I need to get to know someone first and I was more relationship oriented. Now, he is asking me out, complimenting me etc. offering to "be my friend" falling all over me. Yeah right. I know it is just a game.
He already told me he likes casual sex with strangers to begin with. If I fell for it, I`m the fool. When he says " Would you go hiking with me?" I hear, " would you have sex with me?" If he says, "would you like a ride on my Harley?" I know he means " would you like a ride on me?" I already told him that I need to get to know someone. He told me he doesn`t want to bother. So why try and backslide now. Dating him would just be uncomfortable and confrontational. But I guess he has to try. | |
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