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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:17:12 AM | So, basically from what most of the male posters are saying, let me see if I get this right.
If a man talks to you, assume he wants sex. Okay
If a man asks you out, no matter how he approaches you, assume he wants sex. Okay
If you want sex from him too, then go out with him, if not, turn down the date.
Realize that the reason men intereact with women is basically for sex and nothing else. Women are not interesting enough to spend time with for any other reason. If a guy wants to hang out, he will choose a guy friend because women aren`t descent company unless there is sex involved. Okay.
If you do go out with the guy , and sex happens ( which most require) he will either like you call you back , or the other option, think you are a slut for having sex with him.
So ladies these are the rules of most POF guys .
Only accept a date if you want to have sex , or within the near future.
Don`t bore him with wanting to share mutually enjoyable activities with him, because in the end, he would rather be with a guy to do those things, and you are only good for sex.
After you have sex with the guy, sit by the phone and see if he calls back. If he doesn`t, you are a slut.
Soo...........Let me see, I go out and don`t have sex, I am a gold digger and a tease. If I go out and have sex right away, I will probably be viewed as a slut. And also if I have
accepted many dates, and sex has been required , I`m really a slut.
Basically, what I get as a hypothesis to this whole thing, is don`t talk to any man unless you want to have sex with him and no one else the rest of your life. (or you are a slut).
If you date casually, you are required to put out and have casual sex. So if you don`t want to be considered a slut, you better not date.
Rule for POF ladies........
Don`t go out with a guy unless you want sex with him, and don`t waste his time trying to get to know him or share mutual interests. We are only good for one thing, and if it wasn`t for that he would be with his guys.
Gee, wonder why I turn down every date that comes my way. Thanks guys. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:21:25 AM | ^^
and if a guy DOESN'T let you know that he wants, or is interested in, sex with a woman
he is branded a "FAG"..
sort of hard to 'win' as a guy, isn't it?
somehow I doubt this is a MAJOR problem for you wildflower..your attention-seeking troll posts on POF Forums are well-noticed by now..
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:31:34 AM | | I think they want you to lie. Im looking for long term but they mite think im telling a lie. Dam if you do, dam if you don't. My pops told me when i was younger, "son they want it as bad as you want it, if you don't go for it someone else will". | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:31:56 AM | Love it................
When I take the information given to me by most men, condense it into a clear consise view and state it, all of a sudden, I am a troll. Then insult me personally on top of it.
So sorry, all men are the greatest thing since chopped liver, and I should feel so fortunate if one even looks my way, oh, but I forgot, in the real world they never do.
Yeah, that`s my prob, no one wants to have sex with me. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:46:01 AM |
So, basically from what most of the male posters are saying, let me see if I get this right.
If a man talks to you, assume he wants sex. Okay
If a man asks you out, no matter how he approaches you, assume he wants sex. Okay
If you want sex from him too, then go out with him, if not, turn down the date.
Realize that the reason men intereact with women is basically for sex and nothing else. Women are not interesting enough to spend time with for any other reason. If a guy wants to hang out, he will choose a guy friend because women aren`t descent company unless there is sex involved. Okay.
If you do go out with the guy , and sex happens ( which most require) he will either like you call you back , or the other option, think you are a slut for having sex with him.
So ladies these are the rules of most POF guys .
Only accept a date if you want to have sex , or within the near future.
Don`t bore him with wanting to share mutually enjoyable activities with him, because in the end, he would rather be with a guy to do those things, and you are only good for sex.
After you have sex with the guy, sit by the phone and see if he calls back. If he doesn`t, you are a slut.
Soo...........Let me see, I go out and don`t have sex, I am a gold digger and a tease. If I go out and have sex right away, I will probably be viewed as a slut. And also if I have
accepted many dates, and sex has been required , I`m really a slut.
Basically, what I get as a hypothesis to this whole thing, is don`t talk to any man unless you want to have sex with him and no one else the rest of your life. (or you are a slut).
If you date casually, you are required to put out and have casual sex. So if you don`t want to be considered a slut, you better not date.
Rule for POF ladies........
Don`t go out with a guy unless you want sex with him, and don`t waste his time trying to get to know him or share mutual interests. We are only good for one thing, and if it wasn`t for that he would be with his guys.
Gee, wonder why I turn down every date that comes my way. Thanks guys.
OMG please tell me you're serious with this post. If you are, delete your profile and purchase felines.
Guess what? Some women are just as fun to hang out with as my guy friends are. They are better to look at too. I guess that's just my d|ck talking, though. My bad lol | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 9:51:28 AM |
Love it................
When I take the information given to me by most men, condense it into a clear consise view and state it, all of a sudden, I am a troll. Then insult me personally on top of it.
So sorry, all men are the greatest thing since chopped liver, and I should feel so fortunate if one even looks my way, oh, but I forgot, in the real world they never do.
Yeah, that`s my prob, no one wants to have sex with me.
Considering the bulk of your PoF forum posts consist of crying about the most recent guy that "abused" you, most of us take anything you post with a grain of salt. Ok, I take that back... most of us males take it with a grain of salt... I've seen plenty of women try to coddle you... will never understand that cr*p.
In any case, I think the OP's original intention was to say this:
It's completely unfair that those who are honest and up front about their intentions, who constantly get shut down, when there are men out there who decide to be underhanded and simply be deceitful about what they're looking for and get it every time. It's 10x easier to get laid, as a male, if you pretend to want a relationship, than if you're honest about wanting sex right up front. This is true, and no woman can deny that. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 10:03:44 AM | | I dated a women for three years, sex wasn't everything. When we first started dating she was being real with me, told me not to hurt her . But when she wanted me to spend time apart i had sex with someone else, she got mad at me wondering why "i gave her d**k to someone else"... Look we have one life to live, both sides play the games (head games), to see if you have mutual interests anyone can say they have the same... Not a SLUT if you have sex with a guy its your cookie you do what you want with them. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 10:08:21 AM | | Well we assume you're interested in sex but if you show no interest in the person then we'll generally have no interest in you. This applies to any level of relationship. LT, FWB, etc..... If everything you say or do is so blatantly shallow then that is an automatic turn off. It's up to you and some women are different but they're probably not what you are looking for either. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 10:20:20 AM | I want a guy to be upfront and honest about wanting sex, so I can keep on moving. Seriously, I told every guy I met how I didn't want sex, I wanted a relationship. And how I wait a few months into a relationship before having sex. The losers would disappear, and I found somebody who I fell in love with BEFORE we had sex. It was basically my call when we had sex. It was our 3 month anniversary, and we saw eachother roughly 3 times a week during those 3 months. I am glad we waited. And oh ya, he didn't dump me after sex either. Genuine feelings is better. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 10:23:35 AM | Be upfront about it. Open, honest and candid. I have found that if you treat people the way that you want to be treated it works out the best for everyone. There are many woman who can be more open and uninhibited, and honest about sex than men. Tell them the truth and stick with it! | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 4:50:25 PM |
Realize that the reason men intereact with women is basically for sex and nothing else. Women are not interesting enough to spend time with for any other reason. If a guy wants to hang out, he will choose a guy friend because women aren`t descent company unless there is sex involved. Okay.
If it weren't for sex, why wouldn't I just go out with someone I already know, regardless of gender? I can find someone to go eat dinner with who is interesting without having to jump through all of the hoops of dating. So, if it weren't for sex, exactly why would you want to go on a date? | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 5:14:37 PM |
goes through the charade of acting interested in a long term relationship with them, taking them out and not broaching the subject of sex
I prefer the "men act interested in having sex with me, take me out and 'not' broach the subject of a relationship charade"......gets me in the sack almost every time | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 5:29:14 PM | [Quote]If it weren't for sex, why wouldn't I just go out with someone I already know, regardless of gender
Isn't the point of dating to get to know someone new? Going out with a friend wouldn't serve that purpose.
Your friends also may not be interested in intimacy, holding hands, cuddling, kissing, marrying you, or having your children. At least most of my friends aren't interested in doing any of that with me!
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 6:35:13 PM |
Isn't the point of dating to get to know someone new? Going out with a friend wouldn't serve that purpose. Your friends also may not be interested in intimacy, holding hands, cuddling, kissing, marrying you, or having your children. At least most of my friends aren't interested in doing any of that with me!
Which of those things are not about sex? (The ``marry you'' item could be debatable.) | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 7:02:07 PM |
Which of those things are not about sex? (The ``marry you'' item could be debatable.)
All of the above? They're all about intimacy, not sex. Except the "having your children" part - obviously that involves sex most of the time. But still, having children isn't ABOUT sex. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/26/2009 7:13:41 PM |
Basically, what I get as a hypothesis to this whole thing, is don`t talk to any man unless you want to have sex with him and no one else the rest of your life. (or you are a slut).
If you date casually, you are required to put out and have casual sex. So if you don`t want to be considered a slut, you better not date.
Rule for POF ladies........
Don`t go out with a guy unless you want sex with him, and don`t waste his time trying to get to know him or share mutual interests. We are only good for one thing, and if it wasn`t for that he would be with his guys.
Gee, wonder why I turn down every date that comes my way. Thanks guys.
Good lord, woman! What has life done to you? A positive attitude can work wonders for your love life... | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/27/2009 11:48:57 AM | Msg 212-------------
I love it how I , as a woman just restate what has been already written by many guys
as to what is up, how dating is jumping through hoops and a bunch of B.S., how they wouldn`t even try to get to know a woman if it wasn`t for the sex factor, etc. But for some reason when I say it, everyone says I have a bad attitude. The guys said it, they are being honest, but when I accept reality, and restate it,I have a bad attitude. I don`t understand this.
So are we supposed to lie as women to and play coy to reality? This isn`t love or romance most of the time, it is trying to get laid, may as well call a spade a spade.
If I go to a bar to listen to the music and sit alone, some guy is usually going to try to sit next to me and hit me up. I know this walking in. If I just wanted to come in to socialize, listen to music and have a drink, why would I even bother to talk to a guy that is trying to hit on me, if I did not come in to get laid? Most guys are going to think that you are looking. Well if I`m not, I don`t bother talking to them any more. Why waste their time when they could be hitting up some other woman and maybe he could get some from her. It`s a matter of respect by not conversing with him and letting him know up front that you did not come into the bar to get laid, so he can find what he wants elsewhere. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/27/2009 1:05:11 PM | Hey, the way I look at it, if guys just want to straight up and say, lets go home and do it,doesn`t want to bother dating, taking the time to get to know you, create a rapport, just wants the sex, why not call it the way it is? Do the men all have to have their egos stroked and coddled while they are being "honest?" Are we all supposed to act so greatful and thrilled when we are "lucky" enough to have a man that we don`t even know want to have sex? Maybe it is an insult to some of us. Maybe it makes some of us feel like a piece of meat. So on top of the insult, we are supposed to make you feel like a macho guy on top of it.
So you don`t want to date, don`t want to get to know a woman, don`t want to be heads of households, don`t want to spend any of your precious money, don`t want to be there for a woman, don`t want a relationship.But some women don`t want that and find it being a pig and insulting. If a guy has a right to state that he wants just sex right from the start, no strings, a woman has the right to say she is not interested and that she finds this insulting. Put on your big boy pants and take the rejections without
getting all nasty. Just a numbers game, you`ll find that taker that will put out immediately sooner or later. | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/27/2009 1:44:11 PM | Sometimes a woman's attitude can result in a man not ever wanting anything else but sex from them.
I don't think any gender would hang around a sour puss for any length of time whether sex was involved or not. Thoughts are energy.. if one is always looking at things the same way e.g. "all men only want sex" or "I'm not talking to him, he only wants sex" then thats what or who you will bring onto yourself 
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/27/2009 2:06:39 PM |
Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
I for one don't want men to lie. Of course, I accept that if it weren't for sex, dating/relationships/marriage as we know them would not exist.
I prefer to be told the truth. But I also know, and accept, that men seem to have sex more to the forefront of their minds,and that many have been CONDITIONED to "talk the talk", whether they mean it or notbecause "decent" women won't have hot monkey sex with him just for the sheer hell of it.
So, if I'm dating a guy (and it hasn't been clearly delineated and agreed that it's ONLY companionship/social activity dating!) I accept that sex is gonna happen at some point... I don't DO argument scenes!-sex is a SHARED activity, not a 'he pressures and I "give it up" ' deal. If it turns out that he got by my screening and was,after all a patient "hit and run" player, or one who thinks he can put me on the "booty call" list, I don't get all devastated and start passing out the hate and the labels. Obviously, I'm looking for the man who is interested as much( or nearly so)in what's between my ears, as what's between my legs. And most of the time, involvements of that quality come from men who are wise, thoughtful and responsible,men who set great store by meaningful relationships. Men who say what they mean and mean what they say.
Such men do not generally come out and start talking about how we're soulmates/together forever on the first or 2nd date. So if a guy starts with the pretty talk and "saying the right things" when we've barely met, I pretty much suspect that the spirit of truth is not in him.
Cindy O | |
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| Do women want men to lie, or to be upfront about wanting sex?
Posted: 1/27/2009 5:11:38 PM |
So are we supposed to lie as women to and play coy to reality? This isn`t love or romance most of the time, it is trying to get laid, may as well call a spade a spade.
Only if you think romance and sex are mutually exclusive. You seem to think it's a choice between one or the other, in which case, you are confused. | |
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