My fellow forum male posters, you hold easy lays to a lower human standard that you don't hold to yourself.

You forget that sex is often about manipulation. Women get lots of sympathy when playing the part of a victim in a consensual act. The claim of being used is also good for abdicating responsibility for her actions and telling future partners she used by all those other guys.

You forget that sex is often about manipulation. women get lots of sympathy when playing the part of victim in a consentual act. The claim of being used is also good for abdicating responsibility for her actions and telling future partners she was used by all those other guys

That is the most rediculous statement I've heard thus far.

How do you explain all these threads written everyday in the forums, threads about being used for sex, then kicked to the curb. These women write these whiny threads because they know they will get alot of sympathy from other women, other women who look for the same validation once their own relationships end.

Most women hate sex and only do it to please some horny guy

That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard thus far.

I think this is a bitter statement from a bitter man who has had his share of heartache and in your own words " is look for the same validation once their own relationships end."

Hell no....I hate to say it, but men are primarily FOR sex as far as I am concerned - yeah they need to be nice to talk to and all that, but consistent and GOOD sex is a requirement in my relationships.

Really there are women like you out there? Then how do you explain this constant barrage of whiney" I was used and kicked to the curb after he got what he wanted" threads I see in the forums 100 times a day?.

How come we don't write whiny threads ****ing about it.

Men should stop the crap trying to get us in the sack so fast - get to know us - truely know us and when we are both ready - Love is worth the wait. Maybe it is 2 dates maybe 2 months.

And frankly, men tend to regard women who meet their sexual needs without relationship regard them as sluts.

Groan, . . . creating women with trust issues.

And frankly, men tend to regard women who meet their sexual needs without relationship regard them as sluts. You see it on the forums all the time.

When men learn to respect one-nighter casual sex partners, they might experience it more. My fellow forum male posters, you hold easy lays to a lower human standard that you don't hold to yourself.

I don't get the whole "manipulation/control" thing men talk about...I think in most cases women are being cautious, not controlling. A man can't be controlled sexually - he's always free to go get it somewhere else if he's not happy with the pace.

Plus...who wants a woman to sleep with him that's not really ready or comfortable with it? Doesn't that sort of invalidate the act?

If someone feels used, what he/she really means is that there was some unstated objective that having sex was supposed to further, but didn't. Doing something to further an unstated agenda is the definition of manipulation.

I'd totally switch teams for you, I think.

I could not be happy longterm if the sex wasn't good. Even if everything else was good.

That's true, but you've been around the block enough to know that in reality, women exploit the fact that being free to ``get it somewhere else,'' is not the same thing as ``it'' being readily available somewhere else. If it were, you wouldn't have the luxury of being able to dictate the pace most of the time.

Your use of the word ``cautious'' rather than ``controlling'' is itself interesting. Women should have no more reason to feel cautious than men. If there is a reason for women to be more cautious than men, then ``cautious'' can equally well be synonymous with controlling.

Of course, and that's why I avoid women who play games. But, that doesn't reflect reality (even though it should.) If what you said was true in practice, no one would ever feel used because it's impossible to feel used for doing something you admit to having done for its own sake because you enjoyed it. You simply can't feel used for doing something you enjoyed and consented to doing. If someone feels used, what he/she really means is that there was some unstated objective that having sex was supposed to further, but didn't. Doing something to further an unstated agenda is the definition of manipulation.

As an aside, I've noticed that women are often in a greater hurry to have sex if a guy gives the impression that having sex with her is not important because he CAN get it elsewhere (even if that isn't true.)

I for one am neither prey nor a predator....I am simply a woman who truly loves sex.

I know if I am free of blocking constant sexual advances I can more easily gauge MY interest in sex with him (or the idea of it) and when.