427cammer said... There are many in these forums who attract attention to their writing by attacking others or using shocking or vulgar language. Ann Coulter would be no different than these people. It would seem a large number of people have no interest in viewing calm, rational discussions.

427cammer said... I think that it is interesting to note that liberal media (such as the regular cast of The View seem to be) are no better for this behaviour than Coulter herself. They realize that attacking a calm reasoning conservative would portray themselves in a bad light. What do they do? They invite a loud, obnoxious, vulgar woman to their show... then they are viewed as heroes when they put her in her place. Coulter's success can be attributed to liberals as much as anything else.

427cammer said... In today's world divorce rates are high. I blame this on divorce laws that have been brought in the last 40 years.

prettygirl3 said.... Making it more shameful to be found pregnant at 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and even 18 would be better than the alternative of abortions and children raising children.

prettygirl3 said.... I see your solution is to just accept that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, so let's just stick our heads back in the sand and say, oh well... let's not put people down for not giving a crap about themselves or society. And God forbid we dare speak up about it and draw any attention to the fact.

Heh amazing watching the usual suspects fall over themselves to defend this hateful woman.

If people talked to each other the way that Ann criticizes people she doesn't like (She really likes calling them fags) she'd have long since been booted off.

I'm assuming you're referring to no-fault divorce. Do you really think we need to go back to the days when we allowed judges to decide if someone's marriage is worth saving. I don't know about you, but I believe the people who are best qualified to say a marriage failed are the people involved in it, not the state.

I also fail to see the logic of forcing parents to stick together in a loveless marriage just for the sake of the kids. As tragic as divorce is, sometimes it's the best option.

I blatantly lied. Really? I think you just slandered me.

all i can add is that the rate of teen pregnancy has increased dramatically since the introduction of so-called "sex education."

Lighten up lady, if calling someone a liar in these forums was a tort, then thousands upon thousands would be getting served papers. Relax, take a deep breath and unknot your Victoria secrets, it's not the end of the world, just a topic being discussed in a public forum.

427cammer said... No, I'm not just talking about no-fault laws; splitting assets, custody, child support and alimony also factor in largely, at least in my opinion. Again, just my opinion, there is a substantial percentage of women who regard divorce, unreal expectations or not, as a stepping stone towards greater financial freedom.

427cammer said.I don't think that people should have to be trapped in loveless marriages. I think that when divorce was not an easy option, most couples worked harder at keeping their home happy. When I see 70, 80 or 90 year old couples together today I am sure most faced more hardships than most of today's younger couples. And I'm also sure that most of these old couples are glad they were able to persevere through those hardships. And I bet that their children are happier too.

But you are right as well... no need to get the lawyers involved. I always thought tort was a type of french pastry...

Perhaps not. But, I can gaurantee you that a lifestyle of a man and woman living together outside of wedlock would cause Coulter to tear you down as much as she tears down all other lifestyles that don't fit her narrow minded view of the world.

Sure, she's an idiot, but she's basically correct about single motherhood. More often than not, single motherhood is not something that happens to you, but something you choose. Why should I have to pay for the bad decision making skills of single mothers?

Perhaps not. But, I can gaurantee you that a lifestyle of a man and woman living together outside of wedlock would cause Coulter to tear you down as much as she tears down all other lifestyles that don't fit her narrow minded view of the world. Also, you can plan on the fact that your role modeling will impact the way your offspring have relationships in their adult lives. How it will impact is up to the child.

FYI their father, (my ex husband) and I live in the same house only for the sake of the children. It is more convenient for both of us this way and better for the children. I believe Ms Coulter would applaud the fact we are putting the children's needs before our own. A fact many here may not understand. It's called sacrifice.

We have a term for "Children of divorce," writes Coulter, "I call them, future strippers."

I don't really believe that we have an epidemic of wives leaving their husbands just for pure financial gain. It might happen, but that's rarely the case

Most of the older generation did not get divorced because we lived in completely different world. Woman in those times, were not able to survive by themselves. They faced discrimination in the workplace. They often got paid a lot less then men, and many professions would not hire them. Some of them did not have a choice because some judge thought their reason for divorce did not meet his criteria

Can you honestly say to me with a straight face that my mom's divorce was wrong and I would be better off if they stayed together? I would also be livid if a judge just told her she has to remain married to him because he felt that their divorce was necessary.

However, i don't think the state should be interfering in people's personal lives.

I wanted to see what all this hype was about this woman. She is indeed controversial. Since I dont watch that silly show gathered by a group of one-sided gossipers, I youtubed it. What Ann said is she was citing the numbers she got from social sciences research on single mothers. Because I used to work in the prison system as an office assistant, majority of these convicts I worked around were raised without a father in the home. I tend to agree with Coulter on this one.

The norm these days is when a girl is having sex, gets pregnant, she is rewarded with a monthly government check, food stamps, section 8 housing, and the opportunity to go and do it all over again. There is no deterrant for unwed mothers anymore.

When a term like "blatantantly lied" is being slung around so carelessly it is sometimes hard to distinguish exactly who it is that has their shorts in a bunch. And she is right... she never once made mention of what sex education involves.

She does not blame single mothers themselves, they are victims of the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.

FYI their father, (my ex husband) and I live in the same house only for the sake of the children. It is more convenient for both of us this way and better for the children. I believe Ms Coulter would applaud the fact we are putting the children's needs before our own. A fact many here may not understand. It's called sacrifice.

She does not blame single mothers themselves, they are victims of the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.

She shouldn't talk about subjects she doesn't understand. My mom was a single mother after my father died. Shall I blame god for taking my father away from me before I ever knew him? There will be a lot of single mothers as a result of this war in Iraq, which she loves. If those children end up in prison, can they blame the government for sending their fathers to war? NO. And you can't blame mothers for what their child does when that child is an adult.

One of the greatest concerns regarding births to young, single women is that the children of these women are more likely to be reared in poverty. In 1995, 32% of female heads of households with children under 18 years old and no husband present were below the poverty line. In addition, teenage mothers, particularly those who are single, often have a very difficult time in pursuing their education or job training because of the costs and responsibilities of caring for their children.


In 1994, the median income for a two-parent household was $45,041. In contrast, the median income for a single-parent household led by a woman was $19,872. (For black and Hispanic female heads of households, the median income was $14,650 and $13,200, respectively.)


The number of birthst to all teenage mothers decreased from 656,000 in 1970 to 500,000 in 1997; however, the number of births to single teenage mothers increased from 200,000 in 1970 to 390,000 in 1997. In 1970, 30% of the teenage females who had children were single; but by 1997, this percentage had increased to 78%


Despite the large number of single teenage mothers, the majority of single mothers giving birth in recent years were 20 years old or older. In 1997, there were 3.9 million live births to females of all ages in the United States. Single mothers of all ages accounted for 32% of these 3.9 million births; about 10% of all births were to single teenage mothers, while 17% of all births were to single mothers ages 20 through 29


Between 1970 and 1997, births to single white women increased by 355% resulting in 25.8% of all white births in 1997 being to single women. During the same period, births to single black women increased by 93%, resulting in 69.1% of black births being to single women. Most of this increase occurred during the 1980s. More recently, between 1994 and 1997, births to single white and black women have stabilized, increasing very little. These long-term trends are linked to delays in marriage, declines in birth rates for married women, and increases in birth rates for unmarried women.

I say that the media and society has created a monstrous idea that casual sex which results in single motherhood, is responsible. Making it more shameful to be found pregnant at 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and even 18 would be better than the alternative of abortions and children raising children. The norm these days is when a girl is having sex, gets pregnant, she is rewarded with a monthly government check, food stamps, section 8 housing, and the opportunity to go and do it all over again. There is no deterrant for unwed mothers anymore. She hasn't found love in the home, so she decides to bring a baby into the world, hoping it will give her the life she's fantasized about her whole life. Of course, when the child interfers with her social life, the child gets pushed aside, and mom's needs are met before the childs. If it's lucky enough, a grandparent is around to step in and give it the attention it is not getting from it's mother. And so the cycle repeats itself. Children are not being taught to abstain from a mindset of always having pleasure on demand, regardless what it is.

The Leave it Beaver days NEED NOT be a thing of the past...

I say that the media and society has created a monstrous idea that casual sex which results in single motherhood, is responsible.

the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.