| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 1:41:38 PM | | Men typically benefit from marriage more than women, so it's not surprising that women will end an unhappy marriage more quickly. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 1:53:36 PM | Yes! to what Gudnplenty said. My ex wouldnt file either. He didnt have to work, take care of the kids, clean, cook, pay ANY bills, cut the grass or even take out the trash for God sakes! Atleast when I divorced him he kinda started supporting the children. He never did when we were together.  | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 2:07:06 PM | I can only speak for myself. My ex-wife was the one that asked for the divorce from her *enabler / meal ticket* (me). Of course, I still had to pay for it. I didn't have to pay alimony or child support (since there were no kids). FREEDOM!!!
That was many years ago though. Chock that whole train-wreck up to being *young and stupid*. I've been in better relationships without being married or feeling a need to be.
Not sure why, maybe because they know the law is usually still on their side. My ex wouldn't have even DARED try to get alimony from me. I think even she knew better than to even try it. You don't just sit around for 3 yrs contributing nothing but real bad sex and then expect money for it. I don't believe in alimony anyway. Child support yes -> Alimony? Bullsh_t.
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 4:45:29 PM | | count me in as one of the women who filed. i couldn't take my ex's drinking, going to jail and spending outrageous amounts of money. after i filed, he got his 5th dui. i understand he stayed sober for 8 years or so, remarried and makes a great deal of money. good for him. had i stayed with him, he would have continued to drink. no doubt about it. i think i saved both our lives by divorcing him. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 9:51:28 PM | My exes destroyed the marriage, I just filed the paperwork. Ex #1, had this nasty habit of quitting his job and taking off for a few days. The third time he calls me at work and says he is going to Oklahoma, for a couple of weeks. We had 3 sons. I told him, if he goes, he's not coming back. He said, "Oh, I will be back". The following week I filed for Divorce. Totally freaked him out. He went crazy for a while. He accused me of not trying to make our marriage work, never mind I had been seeing a marriage counselor for 6 months, alone. Ex#2, had the nasty habit of getting mad about anything, and everything. He was mad for 2 weeks, cause I allowed my sons to play with boats in the bathtub. They were 4 and 5 years old. Just an excuse to go out and run with other women. I found out he had charged $3,500 in one month to a strip joint, and sent flowers to the HO, and left him for good. Of course he is crying at the gate, how much he loves me, da, da, da. When that didnt work, it became my fault, I was never there for him. I was home at 4 pm every day, waiting on him, attending to his needs, while my own got neglected. Of course, he and the stripper, "just talked". | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 10:01:55 PM | wannashakeyourtree: said: Ok since we're on a generalization kick here I'll offer that most men don't know that there are meaningful issues because most women don't express those concerns in a language and method that men understand. It's like when women start feeling negatively they suddenly forget that men and women communicate differently...think differently etc... and start doing the whole "subtlety" routine. This of course is a trap because not only does she NOT realize she's doing this and subsequently undermining the relationship...she actually starts to believe that the issue is his lack of interest or understanding...and not her lack of communication skills.
There...how's that for a little generalized truth??? :::::::::::::::::::::::::
Any human being knows when they are being a selfish jerk. nothing subtle about meanness. If a guy isnt pulling his weight, how could he not know it? Did he come out from under a rock? | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/12/2009 10:32:51 PM | I ended my marriage because my husband cheated on me, lied, stole my paycheck, ignored me and the children, destroyed my credit, and ran up huge bills that got sent to collections. All I took were my children, my clothes and my car. Good riddance! Why stay for more of that? I'd rather be poor and happy | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 3:55:14 AM | Singleagain66: Amen brother !!!!
except for me twas like this: Well lets see HE cheated (I found out 0n 4th of July, can you believe it? Happy Independence day mofo) so therefore I Filed It / Paid For It and Didn't Have to Have it Served cuz he KNEW he Lost Out and then got to and got He kept and beggin me for a 2nd chance, which I said I wouldnt do cuz that just meant what he did is OK and he'd do it again. 6th months after it was final he called me up cryin that she'd left him. And I told him I was the last person he shoulda called cuz I dont care  And I am doin A-OK !  | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 6:38:07 AM |
Any human being knows when they are being a selfish jerk. nothing subtle about meanness. If a guy isnt pulling his weight, how could he not know it? Did he come out from under a rock?
Right and that's why so many of us here start our threads here with "well here's what I did wrong"...
I personally believe that one of the biggest reasons women file MUCH more than men is because men have more to lose. It's not very pc to say but as a rule men know that it is in fact "cheaper to keep her"...especially if we want to be full time parents. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 8:19:24 AM | | Men have more to lose? More likely because men cant keep it in their pants, and cant control their temper. My attitude during the divorce was, "I dont care what it costs, get me out of this mess". "cheaper to keep her"? He just lost his punching bag, housekeeper, cook. God forbid he should actually have to take care of himself. I figure all marital property was half mine anyway, and I made as much money as he did. Some women wake up and realize that getting rid of the "big" kid takes away half the work and most of the stress. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 8:28:04 AM |
Men have more to lose? More likely because men cant keep it in their pants, and cant control their temper.
What does this have to do with the fact that there's no equality in the divorce process???
For the record, my wife beat me and left me for someone else...so...so much for your unfortunate generalization. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 8:07:09 PM | I was the one that ended up filing divorce, She was the cheater in the relationship and the judge didn't take pity on her either. I ened up being awarded the house, got to keep all of my 401K and pensions, got her vehicle back, didn't have t pay a dime for her lawyer, no alimony, and the child support went down a little bit. She did get the pontoon boat, but the judge gave me the motor off of it!!!  | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 8:23:19 PM | | The ex and i lived in two different states when we got divorced. It was cheaper for her to file in her state and we just split the cost. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 9:02:53 PM |
In a place like N. America women think that they would find somebody else in a blink of an eye...which I don't know if its true 100%. They may get sex quicker for sure...at least some of the women, not all of course and....most important..."not forever".
Also women are not for sharing stuff, they are for getting stuff. So if you loose the sight of the relationship and not providing the "whatever its necessary"...she will file for divorce....Haha hurray...I was 6-7 years old in my grandmother's village and I knew...I ****ing knew I would never get married. At that age I had that BS feeling about marriage. And was not coming from my family because nobody was divorced in my close family .... but the whole BS going with it made me "puke inside".
On the other hand the "enthusiastic" american male is patient when is young. Later in many cases would start the teeth kicking of the marriage...or the so called "insuficiency of the marriage"....Men tend to be more conciliating if they went that far and got married....and they don't want to go over it again and they may try and hold in some instances.....for the only and olny left semi-benefit --> Sex. Maybe.
Have you even been married and divorced? It doesn't sound like it, so the comments only sound like you're something of a woman-hater. Divorce is the woman's fault. She's a money-grubbing, man-hunting, materialistic floozy. The man is patient and forgiving and willing to stay married, if only for sex. That's not all true. Sounds a bit one-sided. That's not to say it never happens that way, but it's a bit of a generalization.
Regarding Bikeman: I can speak from experience that the courts don't always take the woman's word for much. I got screwed all kinds of ways in my divorce, but it was due mainly to not having a blood-sucking lawyer and my wanting it to be over, so I gave into too much just to have it done.
I ended the marriage, but he initiated the divorce. He had the money to do so, so he beat me to the punch. Word is, the one who files first has the upperhand. Guess he heard that before me. haha!! | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/14/2009 9:16:20 PM | I filed for divorce after 2 years because even though my ex was in a relationship with another guy, she would never have, in the same way as she still uses my name even though she is in a 6 year relationship with him, 4 years living under the same roof with him and 4 children to him.
I have no trouble keeping it in my pants, even when I was at my most unhappy moments during the last 4 years of my marraige, when I decided to sleep on the couch. Some men do, some woman do, some men are violent, some woman are violent, some men like to be confrontational, so do some woman.......meh!
I got divorced because I no longer loved her, and it was the final step in ending a farcical marriage that should never have happened in the first place, which was my fault for being so blind in the first place. For me the divorce was about closure. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/26/2009 6:43:27 PM | "Well because if i was my now ex husband I would have stayed married to me too and never asked for a divorce. He had the best of all worlds including the cake and he ate that too."
Ditto! Someone to cook, clean, take care of the kids, arrange everyone's daily life, do laundry, grocery shopping, schedule and attend all events (drs, holiday, bdays, school events, etc.), clean the toilettes, pack and unpack vacation bags, plan vacations, babysit on vacation while he goes golfing..........hmmmmmm......go to work, come home, eat a prepared meal, watch tv, fall asleep, go golfing on free days, run to the bar after work, come back home to another meal.....living large. What woman really wants that? | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/26/2009 7:50:07 PM | I'm now 42, I've been divorced for over 7 years, I had to end marriage due to many reasons that I wouldn't have enough room here to go down the list.... I haven't been envolved with anyone throughout those times of aloneness and anger at every male I encountered, thinking they were out to destroy me AGAIN!!
It took a long time to realize that not every one was like HIM I was hoping to find a friend and then maybe, just maybe, move on with my life....but guess what people? I'm starting to see all the old signs again I will not go down that path, anymore. I'm in pain and I don't feel right how people can use others like that....it sucks to even think that there is such a thing as decency and respect.
I know I need to move on but I need to get over this pressure I feel inside of dissappointment. Lord, please help me....thanks for listening. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/26/2009 7:54:28 PM | | I filed because I got tired of the unemployed b****** getting drunk and hitting me. Sorry if I "expected " a decent man and got a piece of human garbage. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/26/2009 7:55:23 PM | Simple.
1. Most marriages last about 5 years; 2. Most of these short marriages involve partners with 'unequal assets'; 3. Men historically, the husband, have more assets than the wife, they are older, and are worth suiing; 4. Legal aid lawyers are the first resort to wifes who have no income; 5. If the husband has any significant assets, the legal aid society funds the purchase of a 'lier/lawyer' to take and dispossess as much of the assets of the husband as possible so that she can put into her pocket at least 70% of the net take (taking into consideration child support, division of family assets and spousal support); 6. When there are young children involved, the take is even greater; and,
The consequence is that women make the final move because they want a significant part of the assets, and of course the man, has no time and funds to find a way to defeat that.
Men who work do not qualify for legal aid, and separating, spouses who, primarily women, do qualify for legal aid. In the end of this analysis there is something very disturbing and sick.
If the husband does not work and pay child support, he goes to jail, and loses his ability to support himself, and if he cannot honestly support himself, the mother of the kids cannot support the children.
The traditional family law in NA is based on rich men supporting wifes with many children, and there is no reflection of the reality, that both parents are needed to support a family. Men, fathers, husbands, are only necessary as 'good providers'
My advise to you is do not get married to a woman or man who is much poorer than you.......
Had to retreive most of my assets in the BC Court of Appeal
The middle class or common North American male increased his station at a rate faster than any other commoner in the history of the world. Women were not granted the power in the court based upon equality or children. Most women do not stay home with their own children anymore. Women were granted the power over a man's finances in court to slow him down.
Those in power:
How do we screw Adam? The **stard is catching up.
Easy... We give Eve the apple. She'll tear him a new.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eve always chooses the blue pill.
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/26/2009 8:03:29 PM | Don't know, don't care. I filed for my divorce. I'm just glad it's over  | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/27/2009 6:33:04 AM | | Because they want to see how long they can get away with what they are doing. Or because they are to scared to end things. Men are "F'd" up! | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/27/2009 2:50:09 PM | | "discrete contact" - what can I say - holy Toledo, you are a sad case. You really believe this stuff? Seriously, beyond this post, not even worthy of a comment. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/27/2009 3:40:10 PM | Wow what a lot of sad stories. Makes me wonder why any of us on here are looking to go through it again.
Divorce #1 she cheated less than a year in and I moved out and on. But she filed.
#2 was after 19 years and was as much my fault as hers. She was in constant need of validation from emotional abuse from her father growing up. I was unable to give her the emotional support she needed. Got to the point that we could not meet each others needs and she filed, changed her mind and filed again. We get along and try our best to meet the needs of our children. | |
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| Calling All Divorcees Posted: 3/27/2009 3:49:00 PM | Here is what I learned in one of my psychology classes and it totally blew me away b/c I thought it would have been the complete opposite. Women are considered LIFO-last in first out, men are FILO-first in last out. Typically the women are last to commit and first to leave. By the time the man realizes there is a problem she's already out the door. Men tend to be happier at the onset of divorce but remarry quicker than women. Women are unhappier but adjust over time and are more content and tend to stay single longer. Men average dying 10 years earlier if they stay alone.
I would have figured the women to be the first to commit and the last to leave. Studies say it ain't so.
Now that I am 10 years post divorce I can certainly attest to the fact that I have no problem walking away. | |
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