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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolin boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 3/3/2009 8:49:25 PM |
Opinions wanted:
How does a inexperienced student know, ahead of time, what is useful? Sounds like a future "McDojo" instructor.
I could not really tell you. I've never taken JKD. But I would never disrespect a martial art style without trying it out myself. You could have your butt handed to you without knowing what what your getting yourself into.
What do you find useful in meditation and Eastern philosophy? Weren't these the first things dumped in the "new" styles? (They were the first things dumped in Angel training. And I can't say how destructive the stress was in those days.)
Martial arts is what you decide to put into it & what you want to get out of it. Some take it to just stay in shape or lose weight, then they may not care about the rest of it.
Just because meditation and Eastern philosophy was dumped in some styles does not mean it might be useful in others.
I can think of two reasons why it was retained. ( There are probably many more )
1 ) Some want to keep it traditional as it has historical value and don't want it to forget its roots.
As an example...would you want to dump the berets guardian angels wear when any hat or no hat would do?
I doubt it, for the Guardian Angels it is an important symbol and a unique history then any other group.
2 ) A lot of schools don't want what they are taught to be misused. So an importance is placed on respect toward fellow students, instructors & even family.
oh jeez, another fan boy.............
If your refering to me, I always keep an open mind & have crossed trained in other martial arts while keeping my own style separate when training at my school.
What do you find useful in meditation and Eastern philosophy?
Actually I can think of one more important reason.
I was happened to be going through a very bad marriage with a divorce imminent Plus not being able to see my kids many states away. During that time my instructor had been trying to get me to help out teaching the class. Eventually I finally gave in.
Thats when everything changed for me in a big way. The positive mental attitude I had for teaching & training helped me through that rough time when nothing else would work.
I applied that positive attitude to my personal life & it helped me out so much. So yeah it can be very useful. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 5/20/2009 12:00:28 PM | Fear the man....not the belt
As posted by other members.....I have been training 30 plus years..Tang Soo Do, Kenpo and Krav...A former golden gloves boxer........Belts don't mean a thing..the question is can you defend yourself.....Seen it to many times...A so called black belt get his ass handed to him..by a street fighter....
Train..explore ...and keep a open mind....and a willing spirit.....
Good luck. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 5/20/2009 12:27:46 PM | Judo has a standardized ranking system for its participants,but the award of a belt
is not necessarily related to Olympic or international competitive achievement.
Judo is not soley based on the ability of the competitor to strike more quickly
or to strike an opponent harder--it is based on creating tactical advantages.
The objective of competitive judo is to defeat the opponent in one of three ways
—to successfully throw the opponent on to their back;
to hold the opponent on their back for a period of 25 seconds;
to disable the opponent by way of a choke hold or an armlock.
Judo may be the only Olympic sport where choking or the potential fracture
of an opponent's arm are legal techniques. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 5/22/2009 9:42:05 PM | Hi Guys
Black Belt , Kenpo. I learned for respect of others, the physical challenge, and the
self control.
I don't think I have enough testosterone to keep up with any of you though.
Lbiker | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:18:26 PM | before i post-i did this over a 10/11yr period; so alot of this overlapped, i don't consider myself good at ANY of these things. They are merely things i trained in or worked on (i.e. grappling/striking)
grappling-U of h grappling club- about 2.5 yrs; no gi judo (emphasis on ground control, submissions, submission def, etc) and wrestling
jeet kune do (grappling)- about 1.5 yrs
submission wrestling- 1yr
classical judo-8mths
been training w/a bjj guy for about 1.5 yrs
striking-
boxing -3.5yrs- trained under a coach for about two years; rest of the time would meet up w/people who boxed, spar/etc
kenpo-did not train kenpo-but trained w/a kenpo blkblt for about 1.5 yrs; he showed me diff approach to striking, diff angles, entries, escapes, counters, hand position, strike placement and ranges (i.e. esp in dealing w/kicks/knees/elbows to a degree)
karate-did not train karate-but trained w/a karate blkblt(shotokan/another style too) for a year; did the same thing w/the karate dude that i did w/the kenpo guy.
mma striking- about 6mths-blend of muay thai/boxing/kickboxing
i don't consider myself good at any of these things; as alot of my training was stop and go because of health issues/etc, an alot of it overlapped. But this would be my resume, a lil choppy; nonetheless it is what it is.
no amateur/pro fights-and can't compete; can't pass a physical to play h/s football or basketball, but i have gotten to spar (pros/amateurs) | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 5/24/2009 8:59:26 AM | Samurai
Arguing with Kenpoboy is, well, you know....Zzzz...lets get back on track.
First , aikido, yes glad someone mentinoed it, some very strong movement principles
There have always been the outside-in martial artists and the inside -outside martial artists.
The outside-inside...are pure biomechanics. They see the body as a fulcrum, a series of levers, use alot of mechanical analogies. Their belief system isnt based on any kind of morality, its based on immediate combat effectiveness. They dont really concern themselves with whether a neo Nazi learns it or a Ugandan thug learns it, hell, they would teach it to Al Qaeda to make a buck. It lacks a moral directive. Its pure mechanics.
The inside-outside artists are concerned more with how the art is to be used. They see its dangers and restrict its teaching to people of good moral character, who will never attempt to use it in real life. This is a harder path to follow, and requires the ultimate sacrifce, you will spend your lifetime learning an art, and yet be sworn to never use it. Imagine Jesus with a 5th dan in Aikido. Thats sort of what you are aiming to become. You cant use it, ever. It creates a paradox, of why learn it at all, if we are just going to turn the other cheek in a confrontation?
That paradox opens up a host of chances for change and growth which is what martial arts is really about.
I have enormous respect for MMA and love the sport. But to compare it to a way of life, a path, a war that will never have a winner, is ludicrous. They are 2 different things.
For depth, for a lifelong journey look into Tai Chi, Aikido, traditional Okinawan karate, Capoiera, and old, old school BJJ, we are talking the Dad, not Royce and the sons, see what the grandmaster has to say on MMA. He deplored the way it had become, he wanted to test each art, each discipline, he didnt approve of the hybrids. Jack of all trades is master of none. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 6/1/2009 11:08:30 AM | Martial arts are a tricky business, there are so many and in reality they are all pretty fun and most of the time you will benefit from them. But its almost impossible to be recommended one.The internet is not much help as there is alot of bias to certain martial arts.
The best bit of information i can offer you is try as many out as you can, teachers make a massive difference as well but when you find the right one you will know. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 6/1/2009 11:02:16 PM | For me ... JKD, thai boxing, and graci jui jitsu made an excellent combination. In all about 7 years. This combo takes one through all the ranges. Some groups (such as the one I was in) also provides weekend seminars to do with all sorts of scenarios such as mass attack and weapons training.
Peace Edward | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 7/3/2009 12:21:10 PM | I've been involved in Taido , which is an Okinawan Karate-do for over 14 years.
I competed till 2001 , winning a silver medal in Japan. Now I judge at tournaments.
I feel the mental discipline to be the greatest attribute. I've taught students from 4-70 over the last 12 years . It's wonderful to see people get into shape both physically and mentally as well as a shift in there perspective. We have 25 nationalities in the school, so people have an opportunity to learn about other cultures and accept people as people rather than where they come from .
Everyone parks there ego at the door, and the 400 students in my Dojo are like family.Many Parents join after thier kids do ,and it is great watching it pull a family closer. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 7/3/2009 1:35:25 PM | I have trained in Shaolin (My Jhong Law Horn), Karate, and kickboxing.
It has made me more confident, more controlled, and calmer. I don't feel the need to prove anything as I once did when I was a young teenager. I am in better shape. It ignited my joy for working out. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 7/9/2009 10:04:04 AM | | It's all about the style...find a system that fits you ...and does not attempt to mold you into it. I trained 20 years in Tang Soo Do / Kenpo / golden gloves....all useful to me..I am 6'2 225 pounds and muscular..these work for me...Good luck with your search. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 7/9/2009 3:27:30 PM | I was already at 3rd dan training in goju ryu before I quit, but for some reason I didn't get my black belt because either I wasn't old enough as what happened with my first teacher, not that it mattered anyway because even at my brown belt I was one of the best students at the time and I was only 13. I quit when I was 17, I had moved here to Guelph and studied under a new teacher for a few years but he was a senile moron who kept trying to ruin the stuff I was supposed to be learning by making me pay extra money to learn kung fu and tai chi because they were mandatory to get my black belt, and when he asked me and one of my friends to teach 6 days a week during the evenings I quit. I wouldn't mind getting back into it, although I want to study something more weapons based like kendo.
I own a few various weapons, all blunt wooden objects mind you, I have a pair of tong fa's that I keep at my bedside, two bo's and a kung fu staff reside in my closet. Legally I was never allowed to own bladed weapons like daggers, swords or sickles because of my age, however I did train with them quite a bit. I think the weapon part was one of the most fun, but I sometimes struggled with the motions of weapon based forms (kata's) a little bit more then I did with the open hand ones, which always seemed to rack me medals at tournaments more often. I guess since I didn't train enough with weapons my skills were not as good as other competitors. | |
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| Tai Chi, kenpo, shaolion boxing and other martial arts
Posted: 7/9/2009 3:48:36 PM | | A couple of books worth reading are A Book of Five Ring by Miyamoto Musashi, one of the greatest samurai in history, he teaches various methods on how to approach things in life through what he calls the Way. The Classical Man by Sensei Richard Kim is a great book too, he conducted a seminar once back in 1999 that I went to and it was an amazing experience, he passed away in 2001 sadly. His style of karate is the one that I followed for the first several years that I was training, then it switched slightly when I moved here to a similar version of goju ryu. | |
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