| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/24/2009 11:16:06 PM | I agree with Rdcnorm on the kissing thing. I think kissing is 'more' intimate or rather, it's the personal acknowledgment that you are giving yourself to the person. Sex with someone without that depth is just physical pleasure, trying to meet a certain need and release.
Same as Rdcnorm, I find that sex is much more fulfilling with someone I can kiss and have a connection with rather than with someone for the pure sex. It takes quite a bit focus to get the FB off, as well as myself.
As for why did he stop kissing her or never kissed her, it could very well mean he's simply not interested in her that way. | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/24/2009 11:24:49 PM |
OP if he doesn't kiss her, how is she getting turned on enough to have sex?
My first thought, too, when I read the OP. Sex without kissing (before, during or after) sounds so very…mechanical and cold.
And no kissing other times, either? What do they do when they greet each other, shake hands then head to the bedroom?
Doesn’t sound like much of a relationship to me. And yet…she has developed “deep feelings for him”?! Maybe that's just code for "he's really well endowed"??  | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 8:39:16 AM | Hi Op,its pretty obvious your friend is being used.If she has strong feelings for him its going to be difficult for her to leave him but i would imagine as soon as someone else takes his eye he will be off anyway.Love is blind and i only see heartache ahead for her. TI | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 9:09:52 AM | Huh? How? Precisely my first thought.
How do you get to a sexual relationship without dating, then kissing for a while, then getting so turned on you end up in bed (or against a tree trunk, elevator wall.. or wherever) with a man who makes you comfortable dropping your clothes?
I think your friend LIKES it, OP, otherwise it wouldn't have happened in the first place. Once she STOPS liking it, she won't sleep with him anymore.
And since she likes it for now, let her be.
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 9:22:36 AM | um.. wtf is her problem for allowing herself to be treated like that? Amazing to me what kind of callous behavior so many women will put up with just to be with a guy... ugh She is having hooker-sex but not even getting paid for it...He is obviously letting her know loud and clear (non -verbally) that he has no intentions of any intimate emotional connection beyond the sex.... refusing to kiss or sleep with her is the wall he has erected to keep her at an emotional distance... | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 10:31:25 AM |
Amazing to me what kind of callous behavior so many women will put up with just to be with a guy... ugh
very well said, Sepia, your post hit the nail right on the head...
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 11:08:29 AM | I would agree with the two above me... how on earth do you allow bad behavior... she has self esteem issues....
And I wanna know how you end up in the bedroom w/o kissing first???? I'm telling you right now that I couldn't see clearly that direction without the nibbles prior to... | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 11:20:26 AM | My guess is that your GF's lover is unable to be emotionally intimate. I fell in love with someone who was an incredible lay but would rarely kiss and if and when he did kiss, it was without passion - almost by rote. It turned out that he had deep-seated emotional issues.
I believe that it is possible for men to have sex, really good sex, without emotional attachment. Much rarer for women. However, kissing is truly intimate. Ever hear of prostitutes who will f*ck their johns but never kiss them? | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 1:40:36 PM |
Amazing to me what kind of callous behavior so many women will put up with just to be with a guy... ugh I agree, and I am even more amazed that some people would not dare kiss the person they’re fvcking, because kissing is “too personal and intimate”. As if exchanging precious bodily fluids and rubbing genitalia is somehow NOT personal and intimate.  | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/25/2009 1:50:51 PM | On the movie pretty woman. the whore would not kiss the John because that was too intimate. Sounds like she is being treated like a whore. He doesn't want that close of intimacy with her, just wants to screw her. Same goes for not sleeping together in the same bed. He doesn't want the intimacy or closeness. Is she sure this guy isn't married? Sounds really wierd to me. | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 11:39:50 AM | It's all OK now? Does that mean he kisses her or she kicked him to the curb??
I have a friend who does this with her soon to be husband. She is marrying him bc they have a child together and because he can provide for her, but she is not attracted to him even though he is a VERY attractive man.
He thinks it's funny and just laughs about it to his friends and calls it "whore sex". We all think it's really sad | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 1:39:48 PM | I have to wonder how they aroused each other the first time they enjoyed each other in the first place? Wouldn't kissing each other at least get each other's motor running?
apparently this sleeping together is fantastic, but he never kisses her. Is this an oxymoron? Maybe they're Tantric? Or... *COUGHS..male escort ...COUGHS* | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 1:50:15 PM | Yes, definitely in it for the kissing. I met a man on here whom I considered a good friend. He offered up a kiss at the end of the night, just to see.... Well, it was drop dead, magical. I didn't look at him in that way, until this kiss....
In your friend's case, it is more than likely he is afraid, or not wanting, any intimacy with her. For me it is a deal breaker, no kiss... no intimacy. | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 8:13:23 PM | Well, he is a man and I usually fine that the easiest explanation is the correct one. He doesn't like to kiss. it is nothing against her, he just doesn't like it. my husband doesn't like to kiss. We kiss less and less everyday. I have gotten used to it. I miss it, but it isn't that big of a deal. He won't sleep in the same bed with her, Answer: he sleeps better by himself and he wants a good night's sleep. My dad doesn't sleep in the same bed as my mom, never has as long as I can rememeber. My mom snores really bad and my dad's back doesn't let him get comfortable on a bed, sleeps in a recliner. my opinion: Stop looking for something complicated. | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 8:22:24 PM | Apart from everything everyone has said, (probably in addition to because I didn't read the thread) kissing is an essential progressive tool. Sex without kissing is even less fulfilling, less connected, and less enjoyable for me.
That being said, I only kiss if I am getting anal. Nah, I am kidding, totally serious post except the last part. | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 9:38:09 PM | he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you
A really good kiss can make my panties fall off........kinda helps with the 'sleep with me' part...:) | |
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| he'll sleep with you, but won't kiss you Posted: 1/26/2009 10:11:49 PM |
kinda helps with the 'sleep with me' part...:)
Roofies do that for me. Every. Single. Time. Half the time I don't even remember falling asleep. | |
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