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 jack-d-ripper
Joined: 2/25/2008
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.he campaigned on the fact that he would END...END...earmarks


Do you have a source for this statement of fact?



During the first presidential debate on Sept. 26, 2008, Barack Obama said he had stopped requesting earmarks as a senator and that he shared McCain's desire for earmark reform and the elimination of wasteful projects.

McCain noted that Obama had made $932 million in earmark requests during his first three years as a senator and he criticized Obama for saying earmarks accounted for "only $18 billion" in federal spending.

Obama replied, "John, nobody is denying that $18 billion is important. And, absolutely, we need earmark reform . And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/mar/03/obamas-promise-go-after-earmarks-line-line/



The promise was transparency and accountability.

http://www.taxpayer.net/resources.php?category=&type=Project&proj_id=2049&action=Headlines%20By%20TCS

Every earmark is listed with names.

Those fiscally conservative GOP'ers hold 6 of the top ten, in very small states Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama????

$2.25 million for Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport improvements????


Republican Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi $470 million ...

Republican Roger Wicker, Mississippi $390 million...............

Richard Shelby of Alabama

Republican David Vitter Louisiana


Sen. Mel Martinez, voted against the bill, but still included hundreds of thousands for his district.

"At a time when families are struggling to balance their budgets, when workers are concerned about losing their jobs, when states are struggling to maintain service levels, it's unconscionable Congress won't end its addiction to earmarks," Martinez said Tuesday night.

Yet according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, Martinez's earmarks totaled $106.7 million, including $18.7 million in solo earmarks, ranking him 34th in the Senate. His solo projects included $10 million for Orlando-area bus and rail projects, $300,000 for storm water management in Orlando and $950,000 to renovate a homeless shelter.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article983304.ece


The promise was transparency and accountability.

There are Half as many earmarks.... and every earmark has a name attached.....a BIG improvement.
 Beaugrand®™©
Joined: 3/24/2008
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would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/12/2009 10:40:47 AM
The Asperger's comment was offensive and inappropriate, of course, but not surprising coming from a Rush enthusiast. Heil Limbaugh? What will he have you do next, round up the Jews? Send the unemployed and homeless to concentration camps?

Rush's caveat to the "I hope he fails" comment was that he wanted Obama to fail if he instituted a "liberal" or "socialist" program of economic reforms. The most reasonable interpretation of his mouthy venom is that he only wants economic recovery on terms he personally endorses. Even powerful conservative US Senators aren't that egotistical- but then, they're actually elected to the job, Limbaugh is a simply a shill for the businesses that advertise on his radio show.
 cpfstock
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 53
would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/12/2009 12:46:18 PM
Let's just get down to brass tacks. Obama, the people in his administration, and democrats in congress are liberals. While they all profess to only want to "do good for all the people", what they really are after is control. They'd like to controll who makes cars, how they make them and what kind they make. They'd love control of the healthcare system and to control drug prices. They certainly want control of the banking and financial system and institutions. And now they'd like control of speech.
Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi together are nothing less than dangerous.
 themadfiddler
Joined: 9/17/2008
Msg: 54
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Posted: 3/12/2009 12:51:56 PM

Let's just get down to brass tacks. Obama, the people in his administration, and democrats in congress are liberals. While they all profess to only want to "do good for all the people", what they really are after is control. They'd like to controll who makes cars, how they make them and what kind they make. They'd love control of the healthcare system and to control drug prices. They certainly want control of the banking and financial system and institutions. And now they'd like control of speech.
Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi together are nothing less than dangerous.


Empty flame-baiting nonsense.

"Control" is paranoid fear-mongering and has nothing to do with the classical definition of social or economic liberalism, only your paranoid hate-fantasy for the Democrats and Obama, who, based on any balanced political continuum outside American thinking are only a smidge left of right-center.

For you to refer to them as "dangerous" is shrill, chest-beating hyperbole. Nothing less. Children with lighters are dangerous. Rabid dogs are dangerous. Driving too fast on an icy road is dangerous. Democrats in the White House after years of fiscal and political mismanagement, questionable military misadventure and cozening up to the MIC...this is change. For good or ill we will see over the next year or so...it cannot possibly be worse than the Bush administration based on the open accountability we have seen so far (even the image of it)

Knock off the trolling.
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 55
would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/12/2009 7:15:41 PM

Obama, the people in his administration, and democrats in congress are liberals. While they all profess to only want to "do good for all the people", what they really are after is control. They'd like to controll who makes cars, how they make them and what kind they make. They'd love control of the healthcare system and to control drug prices. They certainly want control of the banking and financial system and institutions. And now they'd like control of speech. Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi together are nothing less than dangerous.


Here here. I agree with "the trolling." In fact, I couldn't have said it better myself.
 tallskier
Joined: 5/20/2005
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would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/13/2009 12:56:13 PM
No, no, no.....Limbaugh never said he wanted AMERICA to fail....he said he wanted Obama to fail.


How dare you attempt to introduce actual facts into the discussion?


I personally think that if Obama succeeds...America fails. I think this is what Rush was referring to...


I agree on both counts.


....could someone PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE start with the whole "earmarks" thing and explain Obama to me....if you can....I PROMISE i will listen.....he campaigned on the fact that he would END...END...earmarks.....I will gladly concede that a portion of the earmarks belong to GOP congressmen. But, how do you say....I'm gonna end it and then implement the most radical fiscal legislation EVER in the US?


Obama got elected by making a bunch of promises. He said what people wanted to hear. Never mind the fact that anyone with a shred of knowledge about how our government works knew the many of the promises were not workable.
 la_mom
Joined: 10/26/2006
Msg: 57
would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/18/2009 6:54:27 AM
It's not at all about wanting a run down America. It's about not wanting to see the country go down a certain road. Everyone has a different opinion about it. It's about not supporting a Pelosi speech supporting illegal workers. It's about not wanting Acorn (which is snowed under in legal problems regarding voter fraud) being involved in the Census. It's about not wanting ppl that don't pay taxes in charge of drawing up "tougher tax laws" dealing with those who avoid paying taxes. It's about not agreeing with the most radical economic legislation in this country's history being passed under the pretense that it is "emergent" and the President waiting 3 days to sign it. It's no different than the disagreements we had with the Bush administration, only now that Obama is President, it seems we have all forfeited our right to express opposition.
 la_mom
Joined: 10/26/2006
Msg: 58
would Bush and the republicans have gotten away with this???
Posted: 3/25/2009 3:20:58 PM
I just find it very interesting that the same ppl that so opposed the Patriot Act (because it violated our rights) are so quiet while our President is getting ready to give Power that this country has never seen away. Do you realize that the government soon will determine how much you should make? Do you realize that soon the government will have the power to totally do away with a company that they don't deem "viable?"
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