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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/1/2009 7:20:55 PM | From what I've read and seen, I like Steele. He brings a fresh persona to the Republican Party.
Rush....different matter. There was a time I could at least tolerate him, but his message gets shriller and more hate-filled every year. Now I completely detest him.
I wrote the following to use on another forums about Limbaugh, but I suppose it's just as apropos here. Btw, one could very well substitute any far "Left" cartoon commentator for Limbaugh, btw. I don't play sides or have favorites, and call any demagogue that masquerades as fair and balanced for what they are.
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Gawd how I miss William Buckley—a real, thinking, intellectual conservative. Has anyone ever seen his long-running debate show called Firing Line (1966-1999)? He would have made mincemeat of so-called conservatives like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Sarah Palin. That in itself should give enough pause for those that worship Limbaugh. Buckley thrived on intelligent, illuminating debate, Limbaugh on who can shout the loudest and be the most divisive.
Limbaugh mocks Obama for his narcissism and adulation, which I think is rich coming from a blowhard that makes hundreds of millions to do a radio talk show (he signed a $400 million dollar contract—that's $400 million, folks—for a "talk show"! ... Obama, or any president, makes life and death decisions every day and leads the free world; and gets paid a comparable fraction). Limbaugh revels in the sycophantic adoration of millions of his followers (dittoheads), and can never have enough lung power to promote himself at every opportunity. No one is a bigger narcissist and loves the spotlight more than Limbaugh.
I’m sure Limbaugh thinks of himself as the self-styled inheritor of the conservative mantle Buckley left behind. He can’t even carry Buckley’s shoes.
If I want a conservative voice now, I listen to commentators like David Brooks and George Will. I’m so disgusted every time I see or hear Limbaugh’s constant ego and superiority on display I have to turn the channel because he makes my stomach churn.
People need to put down the remote and do their own research, make up their own minds, and not rely on tabloid, sound-bite journalism and the overheated rhetoric of talking heads for their thoughts, ideas, and insights. Limbaugh is the father of all the political noise and fighting we see on cable right now, and to me, that's not a very good legacy.
 Mo | |
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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/1/2009 8:09:12 PM |
People need to put down the remote and do their own research, make up their own minds, and not rely on tabloid, sound-bite journalism and the overheated rhetoric of talking heads for their thoughts, ideas, and insights. I agree. but in debating with Liberals I have learned that even when you research and base your opinions on your own research, text of the legislation, and statements made by the individuals in question you are invariably accused by the Liberals of simply parroting the views of Rush or any other conservative source. It seems that the Left can not comprehend or understand that some people simply see things differently than they, their sense of superiority disallows them from entertaining the notion that someone might have a rational reason for disagreeing with their point of view.It is Ironic how many that accuse opposing points of view of parroting Rush or Fox post links to the likes of the Huffington Post in support of their position. | |
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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/1/2009 8:41:18 PM | Agree etourdi77. Closed minds are certainly not confined by ideology. I got very angry with all the hate and venom against Bush and Republicans when they were in power, and just as aggravated with the Obama haters. There just happens to be more of the latter for the obvious reason Obama and the Dems are now in power.
However, the shift could very well happen as soon as the next congressional elections. If Obama doesn’t deliver on the stimulus plan he could definitely be just a one-termer. The plan is a gamble, no doubt about it.
$29.95 sounds like a bargain, Dasein. Does that come with a free ShamWow?
Shoot, I just realized I used "btw" twice in the same sentence in my earlier post. Typing fingers go faster than the brain.  Mo | |
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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/3/2009 6:26:53 AM |
Gawd how I miss William Buckley—a real, thinking, intellectual conservative. Has anyone ever seen his long-running debate show called Firing Line (1966-1999)? He would have made mincemeat of so-called conservatives like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Sarah Palin.
I do too! I could listen to some a man all day.
William Buckley was his "own man" and didn't depend on "labels" or "teams" to get his point across and direct your focus. The power of reasonable thought, that he was conservative was purely a coincidence. He kept us reaching and wanting too!
The two from the left I dislike most is the Ed Show ~ He's crossed the line ~ too many times to bother listening too. He spoke of Palin's daughter yesterday ~ That really pisses me off. Keith Obermen needs to quite the Bush digging ~ it's getting old and while maybe true ~ it's just old.
And then there the one that calls himself an independent ~ forget his name ~ hmm? ~
he's joker with an ax to grind.
It's the zeal to get some message out ~ often times a response to opposing commentary that drives much of this poor commentary.
As far as Steele ~ if he could be truly his on man and do what needs to be done ~ he might be effective ~ but sorry guys ~ I don't see it. ~ Karl Rove & company has been calling the shots. Until he's gone ~ the GOP is in for more failure. ~ They are not changing with the times and the road conditions, but keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. ~ Steele hands are tied in the matter of leadership. The little train that couldn't.
And Faith ! where are you?
Dance | |
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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/3/2009 6:48:56 AM |
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As far as Steele ~ if he could be truly his on man and do what needs to be done ~ he might be effective
I had always thought he was a goof.............
Now however I think he has to be very brave........ He is in the middle of the Sybil GOP... (reminds me of a X and a couple of gals I have known)
Rove, Tea Baggers, Secession, Rush, Beck............
I hope they keep old Steele on suicide watch.............
Someday we will learn how his life has been......
Thats a Book I would be interested in......... | |
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| Steele new leader of the RNC, how do you feel about that? Limbaugh most influential republican?
Posted: 11/5/2009 6:35:59 AM | yea, It would be a good book. I'd like to know just how much pressure Karl & Company has on the present GOP. I'd like to know how many in the GOP thinks that any "means" justifies the end.
I'd like to know how they plan on winning a general election while pandering to to the far right. For the numbers is just not in their favor and never will be.
This would require them to make the DNC look so bad , the GOP being the least of two evils.
Members of the DNC have their own problems as well ~ Gay rights issues, ~ while I do not wish to send a signal I accept homosexuality as a normal activity it can't be denied it's been with mankind for thousands of years and is not going way. While it is not contagious it shouldn't be encouraged. But these citizens should be afforded recognized civil unions and the same rights afforded by law under common marriage. As put-off as I may feel about it.
As far as pro-choice ~ A women does and should have final say of her body ~ any implication of that right is placed on her and not society. I want government to say out of the god business. That's a job of church and parent.
Both of these subject "cost" the DNC large membership and support, I do understand that and wish it might be different. But that's life with a government that job is to represent all the people and not just some people. Government should not be in"free peoples" bedrooms.
This 28% hard core GOP support is rooted in opposition of these two issues and I don't see a way around them and honor the spirit of the "bill of rights" or the " Constitution"
How the GOP manages too do this, elude this me , as it creates the illusion of hypocrisy and becomes bedrock that the GOP seems to excel at and spring forward from. Much like getting started off on the wrong foot and forever being out of step with the realities of the day. ~ Just choosing to ignore some things and wishing they don't exist has never made them disappear.
So unless someone can figure out a way around these issues and bridge this divide we are at the mercy of time and fight it out by the day, hour and minute ignoring all that binds us in common purpose and resolve.
Where Steele fits into this picture? ~ He's in a position too help but that's not what on his mind.
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