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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 7:48:43 AM | | You can't help thinking if you had done things the right way, he would have loved you? What's the "right" way? HIS WAY, of course. When we're treated like crap we blame ourselves, we did something wrong. Stop blaming yourself, this is your problem, the source of your pain, more than missing him in your life. You were dealing with Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Nice at the beginning, then you got to see his real colors. I'm sorry for your pain, but eventually you will get over this man. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Man's rejection is God's protection. Keep the faith. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 10:18:15 AM | That's pretty serious...but I know how you can feel the way you do. Loss of love is hard to process and it's natural to feel like you made a mistake. It is completely normal to want the good things back, but you had come to the realization that it the bad stuff wasn't worth the price...and you followed through with that decision and it was the best thing you could have done for yourself. Imagine what three more years of that would do to your self confidence and feelings about yourself! It would destroy you!
What you have to realize though is that YOU weren't the problem. YOU are a good person, full of love and forgiveness, and that YOU have a lot to offer a good man. You tried and put up with more than you could bear. People who love you will not hurt you and make you feel the way you did.
Here's what I would suggest you do as an exercise to give you strength and to get onto the path of healing. Write down, as much as you can, about all the ways that he hurt you, made you angry, made you fearful and all the conflicts that you had. I would separate these out into different sections. Write down why you lost the love - why it couldn't be. These will be your reminders when you feel weakened...read them again a thousand times if necessary.
From there, write down the reasons why you made the decision to heal yourself. Then, you are at the stage of forgiveness...you MUST make the decision to forgive both him and yourself for the mistakes you had made. If you don't it will eat you up inside for a long time. Write down why you forgive him for the wrong doings and then why you forgive yourself for having put yourself in that situation.
Then, allow yourself to heal and write about the ways that you have healed. One step at a time here...but go back to your document when you've made a breakthrough and write about it. These will be the reminders that you are getting better and read them again a thousand times when you feel tempted.
The truth is there's a lot of good people out there and love does exist. It takes awhile to find that connection and you can/will be OK if you allow yourself to be. You have to fully heal from this to even think about being ready for another serious relationship.
If the problems persist, perhaps you could seek out counseling. Don't be ashamed of that...millions of people run into situations they feel they cannot cope with and many times, a good counselor can give you tools that will help you recover.
Hope that helps. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 10:58:32 AM |
making me think that maybe I'm not crazy afterall! A relationship like that leaves you so off balance and so uncertain, mostly of yourself. The whole agenda of abuse is to convince you that you are crazy, as it makes the abuser feel whole.
I am in agreement with the poster who recommended that you seek counseling. All of what you are feeling is normal coming out of this situation, but being out of it isn't the end of the impact to you. If not one on one counseling, women's shelters are frequently connected with domestic abuse support groups, which are free. (US anyway, I did not look to see where you are located).
I do want to add one thing. It is a misnomer that there is a difference between physical abuse and non-physical abuse. There is only on two counts: the weapon of choice and validation that the abuse is occurring.
Grieve the dream which turned into a nightmare, but recognize that wishing things were so, doesn't make them so.
Please get counseling - even if only short-term.
AH3...................... | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 11:39:21 AM | You were fragile to begin with. He merely exploited it as is often the case with these types. Its how they strengthen there hold and the others addiction.
Time will see it fade into a distant memory.
How much time is up to you.
Breaking up was your best move. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 1:22:45 PM | my dear he is just one man in the world, well if thats what you want to call him, there are plenty of good men out there, just take your time you are very young! and believe in the lord jesus for he will pick you up and carry you in your time of need! weve all been hurt one time or enother, you just have to pick your self up and say to your self i can do a lot better, go girl and god bless!  | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/5/2009 8:10:57 PM | | Hi Peter, sorry to hear that you went thru that. 7 years is a long time to be in love with someone who you know is not treating you the way you deserve. I don't know what it is, these types of people tend to be very shallow and manipulative. It is pretty extreme to ask someone to get rid of their car because another woman has ridden in it! That makes your ex sound a little unstable, and quite insecure and jealous. That kind of neediness doesn't go away over night, sometimes not ever. The fact that she claimed to have found someone else after just a few days goes to show that to her, maybe it doesn't even matter 'who' the person is, just so long as 'someone' is giving her attention and validation. I know how hard it is, but it sounds like she can be very selfish and immature. I know (believe me I KNOW) it is much easier said than done, but you deserve something better and I hope you find it. Good luck. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/7/2009 6:23:17 AM | | hi same here me for 20 years with the same guy my one and only he was my first i miss him badly he has been out of the house onl;y one month he is asking for alimoney and my kids my kids are in dcf because he beat me up my life suck now nice out i have to clean the house and probably sell it all his things r stil in the house i have no mood to get out on the weekends my weekends were always fo rmy family and kids now nothing no mood to eat or anything y is there a support group and sponser for alcohol and drugs but not for domestic violence so depressed i want to call him but i know he woujld concider that harrassment help | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/7/2009 9:07:49 AM | | <3 your not alone chickie. I just got out of a rough relationship to. He was perfect in the beginning to... then shit changes. i kept praying and begging for the old manny to come back... he never did. Men don't change, its the way they were brought up i guess. You need to just find some great friends for now and get him out of your life completely. It NEVER gets better only worse... so i wouldn't go back to him dear. Don't be afraid to date... be strong. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger... and we learn from the mistakes. He was just another obstacle in your life you have to overcome. Don't give up you will find someone <3 | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/9/2009 3:36:25 PM | | I have been through the very same thing, several times. And someone else has nailed it already by saying he say you coming a mile away. Recently, a friend of mine gave me a book and told me to read it. Please go get the book...it's called "Women who love too much." It really opened my eyes about myself and how I was handling my relationships. Looking back on my track record, I can honestly say I definately loved too much. Try the book and keep your head up. Toni | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/15/2009 5:40:06 PM | You absolutely defined this perfectly. I lived it for 10 years. ...and now that he is out of my home I can see how truly narcistic he was..... However he is not out of my life. He put spyware on my computers, broke into my house, tapped my phone, bugged my house. .....I have had a protective order against him for 18 months. He has been to jail twice. In court last Wednesday for 4 protective order violations and a computer trespassing charge he walked over and intimidated me and tried to look at all my documents I was organizing then came back over and sat BESIDE me to get another look. I told an officer and he was told to move. During the lunch recess he was waiting for me in his truck and drove up as I was getting in my car...slowly , staring at me. Beofre I came back to court I called and had an officer waiting for me. One of the violations was for trying to take out a $500,000 life insurance policy on me 2 months AFTER we were divorced. We have 2 girls and he hasnt seen them in 5 months (thank god) but he tells everyone, including the judge that I wont let him see the girls. He has court ordered visitation every other weekend. He does CRAZY things....like mailing xmas gifts with the wrong address and no last name to the girls and then accusing me of sending them back to him. He lied and had my parents and I arrested on false charges and I had to pay an attorney to get them dismissed. The impetus for the protective order was him calling the police and talling them I assaulted him when I stopped by his office to give him an overdraft notice...he chased me to my car and once I was locked safely inside he went in his office and hurt himself and then told the police I did it...I am 5'1 and 105# and he is 6' and 185#. Nonetheless I was taken away in handcuffs. Fortunately the magistrate released me when his story kept changing and th eofficer took me home in the front seat of the police car. The last time he had the girls he used a technology called spoofing...he called and left me a message that our youngest (age 7 ) was DEATHLY ill and he was taking to the ER. Then I got a phone call that had the number of the ER....but no message was left. I called the ER ... my daughter had not been there, security scanned and his vehicle was not seen,,,,he had never even left the house and she was fine. He is refusing to settle our financial distribution....one week has wants full custody of the girls and the next he wants cash and never to pay child support. HAS ANYONE ELSE DEALT WITH ANYTHING LIKE THIS??? I FEEL SO ALONE. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/15/2009 6:50:23 PM |  1st-the YAY smiley is for your CONFIDENCE AND COURAGE to get away for good!
2nd-Do u miss the hateful things he said to you? Do you miss "boiling water" the wrong way? Do you miss feeling so insecure that you feel you can't even think your own thoughts the right way?
3rd- When you feel those "crackhead" moments that creep up on us when we least expect it...i.e., missing him, remembering the "good" life at home, wanting to call him..etc...; think these thoughts before you do:
*IF HE BROUGHT ME TO IT, HE WILL BRING ME THROUGH IT *THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME TODAY THAT GOD AND I CAN NOT HANDLE TOGETHER *GOD IS KEEPING ME FROM DANGER *I AM ON THE PATH GOD HAS CHOSEN...DO NOT FORCE OPEN DOORS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLOSED FOR GOOD REASON Honey, you have come a long way. You may not feel it now, but you can NOT GIVE UP! You have the strength to keep going, and when you feel you don't, pray for it and it will come. You're not alone out there. Feel free to contact me if you ever need someone to say STOP, BREATHE AND PRAY before you take action. Best of luck to you!!! | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/15/2009 10:57:09 PM | I'd be willing to bet that you are still in regular contact with this man. Part of the cycle of emotional abuse is the distorted perceptions they work to instill in your mind. You have to COMPLETELY REMOVE his influence from your life and your mind before that fog will fully lift. As long as he has opportunities to inject his distortions into your mind, you will be second guessing yourself.
I still can't understand how our relationship could have meant everything to me and nothing to him. You're assuming his mind works the way yours does, that he even has the capacity to experience real emotions the way you do. Do some research on Narcissism, sociopathy, psychopathy...It's hard for compassionate loving people to come to terms with the fact that there are empty shells of people walking around that look just like us, but it's true, and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can start moving past this. There is nothing that you could have done differently to make him treat you better. STOP LOOKING to yourself for a justification for his behavior, and dump the responsibility for it back to him, where it belongs. He abused you because that's what abusers do, nothing more nothing less. There is nothing anyone can say that will magically fix this situation. That relationship is OVER. You need to make a conscious effort to get your focus off him and why he acted that way and onto yourself, and why you tolerated it for so long. And start looking for the positive in the situation.
my ex went out partying with his buddies almost every weekend and left me at home alone. He put me down when he was around, degraded me in front of friends, lied to me, cheated on me, stole from his job (we worked at the same company) and basically made me feel like I was a piece of garbage. Whew, it must be nice not to be subject to that crap anymore,eh? Even if he was sweet and wonderful in between those incidents, they are still an inseperable part of the package... Nobody should be expected to pay for their "love and affection" with their dignity and self respect. Someone that truly loves and cares for you would NEVER put you in this position. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/28/2009 6:34:25 AM | OP
congratulations to you and also to those who lived it, for taking control of your life... this has been one of the best threads i've thus far read ...
cheers!! | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/28/2009 8:21:19 AM | I'm sorry to hear about the emotional abuse you've been through. I have had my share of emotional , physcial , psychological and economical abuse...and yes abuse is abuse , doesn't matter what form it takes. Try and understand that this was in no way your fault!!!
You have to come to peace with this eventually and you're still very young , but there will be times in your life when people will let you down and you'll start seeing things in a different way. Try and build your self-esteem back up and when you feel confident, you'll attract the right type of person to your life.
I don't normally do this, but read what I've written in my profile about coming to terms with things...sometimes it takes a lot of soul searching to be in a good place in your life and sometimes you just have to realize there is no such thing as a Prince Charming...once you come to peace about how things really are, as opposed to how you want them to be , you'll come out of it a better and stronger woman.
I wish you all the best | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/28/2009 3:58:36 PM | Most have made some very good comments but I was the emotional abuser. I would suggest a book called - Love Without Hurt by Steven Stosny.
I can tell you I criticized, belittled and anything else possible for 11 years and couldn't control it. I knew the whole time how I was hurting her but didn't have the tools or honesty with myself to stop. Everytime I said something I would be myself up about it for hours on end. Eventually I even stopped apologizing for the things I said because it didn't mean anything.
I'm not suggesting he would change or that you should go back but change is possible. It's almost like being a drug addict, you quit when you are finally honest with yourself.
His issues and abuse had nothing to do with you and are not your fault.
Good luck | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/28/2009 5:02:18 PM | the last man that i had dated started out so sweet and polite. within a short time i found out that things he had told me about himself were lies, he is a sexist "wannna be ladies man", he looks at and talks about other women to me and in front of me, and tells me that i have the problem. Now if that is not naccissicm and emotional ebuse, then I don't know what is!!!! | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/30/2009 4:29:17 AM | Msg. 40 Kudos for the courage it took to write your post. Not too many emotional abusers IME ever take ownership for their abuse.
His issues and abuse had nothing to do with you and are not your fault. OP - your prescription is to repeat those words every day until you believe them. On day 7, add another prescription to the current, repeating that you cannot fix his issues until you believe that too.
Signed: Doctor Life. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/30/2009 9:00:44 PM |
exactly how you feel, so many emotions and your heart actually aches, i've been on an emotional roller-coaster for a long time now. you keep thinking he'll change for the better, that he will understand what he has, but for the most part, he just gets worse. you can't understand his behavior because it doesn't make any sense. he is either wonderful or rotton in his treatment of you, there is no in-between. he takes no responsibility for his actions, he will either totally ignore, neglect, or hurt your feelings with his words or silence and he could care less unlesss he wants something from you, because he's a macho man who is really a coward when it comes to feelings because, yes, unforunately, he's more in love with himself than you. he is a very selfish person, it's all about him, always. he has no respect, regards, for your feelings. he is a charmer, knows all the right things to say, he's a master manipulator to get you to do or believe anything. he is a liar, cheater, egotistic, self-centered male, not a man, who knows nothing about being real. he's disrespectful, non-appreciative, a womanizer who has to have everything his way, everything is all about looks and sex, claims to be romantic, but it's all an act, has no clue what i's all about because it's all about him. he tries to say you are just jealous and insecure when your'e not and if you are, it's only because he's made you think that way. the problems always have to be your fault, even when they arn't. what's hard for us ladies is we want so much for these kind of guys to be the men they claimed to be when we met and fell for them. the problem is, we don't find out the deception untill it's too late, so we hang on to see if maybe there's a chance he could change, but we soon discover, he's not the man he proclaimed to be but we don't want to let go of that "man" we fell in love with. i've asked myself a million times,why can't he just be who he made me believe he was, because now it's so hard to leave because the feelings are very hard to get rid of once it involves the heart. i finally asked for help from the good Lord because i was devastated that i had put so much time, effort, and love into this relationship for him to keep on hurting me over and over again after i had done nothing wrong. i was so devoted to him, adored him, untill i had enough, i had to get angry, and it took a lot of strength to "let go and let God" but it worked. try prayer, it will help you release yourself from the cage he keeps your mind in. you have to free your mind of the good, and just remember the bad, and that's not easy, but that's what helps you not go back to the vicious cycle of an emotional abuser. i wish you all the best in your recovery from your heartbreak, but you can do it, stay strong and focused and most of all pray. i know now he really wasn't worthy of my love and he's the one who lost here, not me. was once then got God bless you, sincerely, lady1952
OMG.............I know this guy!!! | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/31/2009 3:45:20 PM | It would help a lot if you would get a copy of the book The Emotionally Abusive Relationship available on amazon.com. It will tell you how he abused you and why and how to respond when it happens and how to avoid it in the future. This book will change your life. You will find out all about these abusive guys and what makes them tick. | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 3/31/2009 8:46:33 PM | Dear OP,
Sometimes our real answer is no answer, and it might be actually kinder than the one we would get from someone like your abuser. And I say "abuser" with the most serious tone. You are not at fault for anything but allowing him to continue to take advantage of you, and believe me....he's hurting, too. Not that this should give you hope that you will share that life you imagined with him when you moved into that house. I wondered for a minute (minus children) if you were talking about my ex-husband. This man's problems are deeply rooted in his childhood and he doesn't know any better. He doesn't deserve any more control over your life. He's still got it, and you need to take it back from him. You've stopped living while he's moved on...and that is not fair to yourself.
The best thing you can do for yourself is get in touch with a local Woman Care agency, or call a domestic abuse hotline. Those people are highly trained in how to mentor someone out of the cycle of abuse that you are still stuck in. Every time you think about this man and your "life" with him, you give him control, which is how he abuses you. The things he did to you were to control you, nothing more and nothing less. He may not have consciously known that was what he was doing, but he did it and nobody does anything without a motive. You can't fix him, but you can heal yourself and move on. It's okay to give yourself permission to do that, but PLEASE contact the professionals who deal with domestic abuse. They will help you help yourself to start living again, and THEN you can trust yourself to move to the next steps in your life.
I hope this helps. I had said a lot more, but I realize I can't say it all in one post...best wishes to you! ~M | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 4/1/2009 6:27:44 PM |
It would help a lot if you would get a copy of the book The Emotionally Abusive Relationship available on amazon.com
Do you know the author's name of this book?
Also, I want to say to all those who replied to this post, that it has been very beneficial to me as well. Thanks!!!
Good Luck OP | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 5/11/2009 6:34:28 PM | The Emotionally Abused Woman by Beverly Engle.available at the LIBRARY is an excellent book. I am re-reading it and find it hard to put down. I was not abused in my last marriage... he was awesome.but when he died, I seemed to fall into the pattern of being abused like I was in first marriage. I had to get answers. It is an awesome book!! | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 5/11/2009 9:01:02 PM | So...the moral of this story is...
Don't move in together?
Or go deeper than lust and infatuation before you move in together...if you're friends who have a sense of humor about each other and life in general, there should be no need to nit-pick...
I have to say, though, that my parents are nit-picking each other to death. With all us kids moved out and them both retired, there's nothing to keep their minds off each other. My mom walks on eggshells around my dad all the time. Living together 24/7 isn't for everyone... | |
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| Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ... Posted: 5/12/2009 3:05:18 AM | I am going trough a similar situation, and I know how heart breaking it is. I find myself asking "what if...why..." I have come to realize that you can't change anybody but yourself. These words seem so simple. But so True. There is no way of ever changing anybody...unless they truly want to change...on their own...with no conditions. I have given up, and have decided to be thankful for the GOOD he gave me, and to forgive him and myself for any pain we have caused each other.
This is something I read that I have hung on to. It seems to have given me some type of perspective. God Bless all of you who are hurting. I feel your pain.
People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person.. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrong doing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.
Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has come to share, grow or learn. They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it, it is real. But only for a season.
LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons, things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant. | |
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