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 ~luvUlongtime~

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Posted: 2/28/2009 5:16:32 PM
^^^ Well, you sure.... told him so. I wonder if he'll return?

I'm currently on sabatical from relationships and I'll know it's long enough when it feels right . That could take forever. When I look back on all the ghastly mistakes I've made when blindly 'choosing' a mate it is apparent that I can no longer assume the right of choosing at all.
 ~luvUlongtime~

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Posted: 2/28/2009 6:46:07 PM
By the way, how long do you have to wait before you can officially claim the status of 'Born Again Virgin'? It's just that, in due course, I'm thinking of selling myself to the highest bidder on e-bay.

"One virgin, slightly used. Apply within"
 lyingcheat

Joined: 10/1/2008
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Posted: 2/28/2009 11:03:29 PM

By the way, how long do you have to wait before you can officially claim the status of 'Born Again Virgin'?

It varies. I gather if you can provide an affidavit to the 'Precious Hymen Registry Of Australia - Restoration Records' (phroarr.com) attesting to the fact you didn't enjoy it very much in the last relationship, then those ones don't count. Of course (not inter-) you can shorten the process considerably if you have documentary evidence.

Just out of curiousity... do you have an ImageShack or Twitter account?

(O) ---> (o) ---> (|) ?
() ---> 0 ---> . ?
(88) ---> (~) ?

But in general, how long is long enough?

Does 12 inches make a rule? Of course! And every rule has exceptions. Mmmmm, open possibilities...

We are ready to date again when our knuckles no longer drag on the ground.

Having ones knuckles on the ground, during a date, could well be a memorable climax to the evening?

We are ready to date again when we decide to stop wasting time with monkeys.

Simians lack opposable thumbs, but compensate with their prehensile appendage. Some may think it rather cute? To monkey around.

We are ready to date again when we see someone we really wanna pick the nits off.

Au contraire. Nit picking is best left behind when the romantic adventure starts.

We are ready to date again when swinging (between trees) stops seeming enticing.

Rock-a-bye baby! Ain't nothing wrong with tree tops....
Feel the breeze. Look at the view. Take a walk on the wild side...
 kevoz62

Joined: 1/28/2009
Msg: 29
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Posted: 2/28/2009 11:51:27 PM
Post 16

Some are trapped in relationships that they cant or wont get out of i guess.so that is where cheating comes in

For myself i like to have clean break before starting next chapter


My problem is i like wedding cake haha
 artylime1

Joined: 1/26/2009
Msg: 30
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Posted: 3/1/2009 1:31:55 AM
I like you, but do you have any money? (only kidding)
 ToldYouSo returns

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Posted: 3/1/2009 9:43:24 PM

Why would I let you tell me anything when you clearly don't have a clue?


Why would I let you tell me anything....

You just have... and apparently it's touched a very tender surface, causing your reply.


....when you clearly don't have a clue?

All Alpha's know that it's impossible to educate or instruct a non Apha as to how to become one. Sort of like trying to teach a loser how not to be. Just can't be done.

I have noticed during my on and off love affair with this forum that some of the oldest members are the most interesting one's. Some have been here many years and seem to be very desirable people yet remain unable (or unwilling) to find a compatible mate.

One of the character traits of Alpha's be they male or female, is their need to face and resolve problems immediately and decisively, never having to face 'the longer we leave it, the harder it gets'. A detracting feature of dating sites, well recognised by many previous posters, is that they offer the opportunity to communicate with many prospective 'buyers' without any obligation to meet anyone.

Hilly said earlier in this thread, or words to this effect, that it's scary out there. I sometimes wonder if it gets scarier the longer we leave it. Do we become entrenched in our ways the longer we delay and reform our lives as perpetual singles, eventually becoming content with that? We don't actually meet other people on dating sites, we simply communicate with them. I think many people have a genuine apprehension about meeting potential suitors face to face. We really do need to be out there.

A lifetime is far too long to wait.... for anyone.
 rorstar1

Joined: 3/5/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 9:50:34 PM
well i have been single for five or so years now my rules as a bloke take time play the field u never know what will happen until least expect it
 Naamah

Joined: 11/1/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 10:18:54 PM
^^^ Awww Kontraseptic , your hoesty is appreciated.



Having ones knuckles on the ground, during a date, could well be a memorable climax to the evening?

Good point, well presented. Perhaps then, given that the thought did not even cross my mind, I might have left it too long already. Eek. I might end up taking a sudden and revealing amount of interest in the answer to LuvYouLongTime's question (and thanks for the keyboard porn diagrams there LC) And you know, for all these concerns about people rushing back into it too soon, I think it's equally destructive to ignore your own signals and wait too long. I still think how long is too long is only able to be correctly determined by the individual, but ignoring the gut feeling about being ready just because society might judge, or you let fear win out, then that's clearly headed for future regret about wasted years. It might even be worse than a regret about rushing into something too soon.



Maybe we are not as intellent as we make out to be ???

Did you mean indolent? And I am sure that's
*indolently doesn't bother to finish the sentence or start dating again*.



Infidelity is common (normal practice, typical) amongst PRIMATES, monogamous or not . That is the only comparison i have drawn, because that is the only comparison relevant to the OP's question.

But making a comparison of social behaviour in isolation to all other aspects of social structure is (IMO) inheritantly useless. (Can we talk about the dating life of ducks yet?) So what if the other species don't crave monogamy...in our more honest moments, us lot seem to...and whether or not cynicism about relationship breakdowns is rife, the dream is still there inside most of us. Not many aspire to short term relationships or a life spent alone...that's possibly what we might get, and what we might accept as being what we'll get, but it doesn't fuel dreams and it's not part of our usual social mindset. Personally I'd rather have the dreams and be wrong, than buy into the alternative you present where we accept infidelity or permanent singledom as the norm. What can I say...I'm a product of social conditioning.



In retrospect it was not wise to illustrate my point of a make-believe monogamous social structure with a reference to female infidelity amongst apes

You are so cheeky! But hey, no trying to back out now since you've heard how disputes have to be resolved 'round here these days.



which does mess with peoples attention span

I don't know what you mean...oooh look, a butterfly.
 Brizguy_2008

Joined: 10/11/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 10:42:42 PM
Told you so, where does it say that you have to be in and out of a dating site quickly to be of any worth?
What makes you think people who have been around for a while aren't actually out and about meeting bucket loads of people and having a great time.
You've beaten your chest about being an Alpha male, but It sounds like you're the Alpha amongst the Beta's, and would be a Beta amongst the Alpha's.....A real Alpha wouldn't have to tell ANYONE he was as it would be apparent from the outset, but until you mentioned it, no-one would have guessed you were.
Maybe that's why
As an Alpha Male of long standing let me tell you they’ve never lined up and dropped their drawers whenever I’ve clicked my fingers.


Just an observation from a mere Beta....
 ToldYouSo returns

Joined: 1/29/2009
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Posted: 3/1/2009 11:14:35 PM
^^^^ Well said Briz.


What makes you think people who have been around for a while aren't actually out and about meeting bucket loads of people and having a great time.


I don't necessarily think that. Irrespective I do read this forum on and off and pay attention to what some members say about their 'dating adventure'. Sorry to be a bit Alpha again (just comes naturally) but I also recieve/d (particularly when I was single and looking) a great deal of personal correspondence from ladies on this site. The majority of the 'old timers' that I communicate with (mostly the kids in their 30's and 40's) express the opinion that they're not out meeting bucket loads of people or having a great time. I'm pleased that you're an exception and of course there are many more exceptions.


until you mentioned it, no-one would have guessed you were


Which just goes to show you aren't a girl.

More seriously Briz of course there's nothing wrong with being on a dating site for a lengthy period of time. Often I think it's the most special that hang around. They're not anybody's. And personally, I've never wanted any anybody's.
 Brizguy_2008

Joined: 10/11/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 11:46:53 PM
Actually, in many communities the alpha male only thinks hes the dogs bollocks while in reality it is actually a matriarch quietly in the back ground who really runs the show.

So, that being said, I wonder who that could be??

Although in all fairness, I thought the Monkey stuff was a bit over the top, but the Alpha male bit is really putting me to sleep...LOL....Unless of course there's any "real" alpha males in the (chat) room, 'cause then I'll be hanging around for the panty drop bit.
 ~luvUlongtime~

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Posted: 3/2/2009 12:37:36 AM
Alpha male - is this the new expression for egotistical prat? I've never been good at keeping up with these new fangled cultural trends.



I might end up taking a sudden and revealing amount of interest in the answer to LuvYouLongTime's question (and thanks for the keyboard porn diagrams there LC)
At first glance, I thought those diagrams were a mathematical formulation to work out the answer to my question. That shows how sweet and innocent I really am. I may have even blushed.

Back to the OP's question. How long? I'd say, hmmm... about 9 inches.
 Brizguy_2008

Joined: 10/11/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 1:27:41 AM
Is that length or diameter?
 soulmate08

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Posted: 3/2/2009 1:53:18 AM

Is that length or diameter?

How would she know?....shes a virgin
peace
 ~luvUlongtime~

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Posted: 3/2/2009 2:36:18 AM
^^^^^ Well, I am slightly used.
 julianx

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Posted: 3/2/2009 3:19:55 AM

How long is long enough


I'd say it's 'horses for courses' and the length of time between partners is probably directly proportional to the length of the individuals posts on this thread; there are those that get into endless intellectual (and no doubt physical) wanking about what went wrong, or spend ages repairing there alpha mail, or scratching silver backs, or maybe be stabbing a few, and then there's those that....



when a horse bucks you off !! what do you do ???

I get back on and yell "yee har" (on a different horse ofcourse(sometimes))
 Naamah

Joined: 11/1/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 3:33:03 AM

when a horse bucks you off !! what do you do ???

Send it to the doggers? Where it will be rescued by Hilly. Who will then drop it round to my place. But I guess I have loads of time to look after the unwanted horses cos...
the length of time between partners is probably directionally proportional to the length of the individuals posts on this thread
Sounds like I'd better get me one o' them 5000 piece jigsaws, stock up on DVDs and settle in for the next 20 years then. and
 julianx

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Posted: 3/2/2009 4:38:52 AM
^^^It's no use trying to get a short post in now to try and prove your availability. Mind you at least your watching DVDs, there's someone back up there that's still talking about BETA max
 scholar59

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Posted: 3/2/2009 6:16:57 AM
I have had a look at some of the ego tripping intellectual nonsense that fills the academic journals from cover to cover, trying to see if I could find the answer that people would expect to find to this question. No luck I am afraid, there is a lot of material on the factors that determine the probability of remarriage after divorce and the probability of the second marriage succeeding. But not much specifically on this question, I did find was one old journal article which says:

“most divorced people begin dating within the first ycar [sic] following the separation, but require two or thrcc [sic] years before they are ready to form a love relationship” Patrick C. McKenry; Sharon J. Price (1991) Journal of Divorce & Remarriage

I haven’t, and I hope never to have, the time to carefully read the whole thing so I can’t tell you what they mean by “most divorced people”, 51 % perhaps, or what “a love relationship” is intended to mean.

The ABS statistics say the median time between separation and divorce is 3 years and the median time between divorce and remarriage is also 3 years. Therefore the median time between separation and remarriage is 6 years so apparently 50 % of us can get over a failed marriage, start dating, find the real “the one” and signup for another stint within 6 years. You can work backwards from there making reasonable guesses which make the one year seem more reasonable than it at first sounds.

I don’t think any of this particularly useful or interesting but I suspect it is more like what most people were hoping to find on this thread.

Me I am going to go back to thinking about why we have feelings which prevent us from immediately moving on as if nothing has happened. It should be obvious that people who could just move on would have more decedents than others and given enough time would became plentiful rather than as rare as they seem to be. Therefore the underlying cause must be an instinct which is useful if not essential within relationships most of the time, but when a relationship has effectively ended, if it can’t or we won’t satisfy it, we experience emotional distress in one form or another. I think the answer is obvious, probably wrong, but arguing the something is an instinct rather than the product of rational thought would involve long laborious intellectual wanking and comparisons with apes, and we have all had enough of that.
 ToldYouSo returns

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Posted: 3/2/2009 8:47:47 AM

Alpha male bit is really putting me to sleep


Rotten snorers. Always have to blame someone else.


Alpha male - is this the new expression for egotistical prat?


Yes.


I'd say, hmmm... about 9 inches.


At last a sensible comment. A girl after my own heart. Talking about length. I remember last winter, pretty cold it was, woke up to use the toot in the middle of the night (us oldies do that often) and the weeny had become countersunk. Had to use a heater before I could get a realistic grip on things.


there's someone back up there that's still talking about BETA max


And down here.


comparisons with apes, and we have all had enough of that


Here. Here.

A simplistic answer to the OP’s question might be this.

The CORRECT length of time is exactly as long as it takes. If we’re comfortable, we’re probably ready.
 lyingcheat

Joined: 10/1/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:04:34 AM

A simplistic answer to the OP’s question might be this....

What? Another one?

The CORRECT length of time is exactly as long as it takes. If we’re comfortable, we’re probably ready.

R. i. g. h. t..... That is simplistic. Your preceding summary was CORRECT. hahahaa
 ToldYouSo returns

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Posted: 3/2/2009 9:25:26 AM

R. i. g. h. t..... That is simplistic. Your preceding summary was CORRECT.


Does anyone anyone else hear this noise? Is it a big bag of wind or perhaps a hot air sort of sound? Nah! 'Tis just an echo. A hollow empty thing.
 lyingcheat

Joined: 10/1/2008
Msg: 48
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Posted: 3/2/2009 1:33:59 PM

Does anyone anyone else hear this noise?

There is an echo!

Is it a big bag of wind or perhaps a hot air sort of sound?

Well, it does smell like someone farted hahahaa! And I didn't see your lips move, so.... CORRECT again!

How long is long enough?
The realistic know their limitations, but there are always those few who will go to great lengths, and endure mountainous humiliation, to find out. It's a lot of trouble to go to, just to make an awful discovery.
 artylime1

Joined: 1/26/2009
Msg: 49
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Posted: 3/2/2009 2:18:14 PM
The instinct for intimacy....much more refined than that ape stuff...because it involves not just the physical. ....unless you re a man maybe, but that feeling of connection and trust. There's a hole in my heart without it...
 ~luvUlongtime~

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Posted: 3/2/2009 3:00:22 PM
Now boys, LC and TYS, that's enough of that. Anymore of this nonsense and I'm sending one of you to my room.




It's a lot of trouble to go to, just to make an awful discovery.

Best not to keep making the same old mistakes. Sometimes a great deal of time between gigs is needed to give yourself a good slapping around for stuffing up the last ones. Hopefully, time gives you a chance to learn something so that maybe you won't keep on making those awful discoveries.
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