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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 5/29/2009 6:22:55 PM | I think that this is an over generalization of American women because this is the type of women that is portrayed in the media. I don't believe that the average everyday American woman is like this at all. It is sad that this is how American women are seen because this is not the case at all. We are not all the self absorbed spoiled brats that others think we are. There are some women that do adhere to this type of attitude but I don't think is the "general" attitude of women.
very unfortunately many affluent men accept this pathetic situation and deserve to shoulder some blame. They want an attractive, sexy woman in their lives and are willing to pay for it.
I think that this statement is pretty accurate but I think you need to add that most men want the "attractive, sexy women in their lives and are willing to pay for it" and then when things don't work out they stand back shaking there heads wondering what went wrong. Well things went wrong because they want the high maintenance gals who tend to be self absorbed and present the attitude that the OP brought forward (kinda like the women who want the "bad boy" types). What they don't realize is that theraverage American woman who is not the most attractive, sexy, bright shiny object is probably the more stable and able to engage in a healthy relationship with little drama involved(which is what they say they want). In my experience guys don't want the drama free relationships with average American gals but thrive on the drama of the high maintenance gal. This is just my experience though.
To each his/her own desires but don't over generalize that the average American woman has the "Princess Syndrome" because it is far from the norm.  | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/21/2009 9:51:24 PM | Fluer I am in total agreeance with you.
I don't see myself as a princess. I bring my all and give the respect deserved, and expect the same in return.
I do however know what the OP is talking about. Unfortunately the one thing the OP has wrong is that there are men just as bad as women. It is a sad fact in todays society, one I wish were easily changed. | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/21/2009 11:16:36 PM | | Come on peeps... You know as well as I do that we live in a instant self gratifying world. If we do not see instant results, improvements etc etc then yes we throw it away and try again. You notice I said we.... There are things that I am just as bad as the next person about. But the one thing that we all need to work on is working on relationships. They are hard work, but no one wants to do hard work anymore | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/22/2009 11:36:59 AM | hey Fable... I think it is the level of expectations that have changed over the years. And please do not think that I am trashing men because I am not.
In the past women had to be satisfied with what thier man provided. The extent or quality of thier "belongings" depended on thier fathers first, and then thier husbands. If the husband and/or father was rich then the quality and quantity of thier lives improved. If thier husbands were "white collar" then yes the quality was better than the blue collar. So on and so on...
As the years have progressed and women entered the work world, they realized that they were able to provide for themselves. And the quality/quantity issues came forward. So now when entering a relationship, the women have the attitude that we can provide most of our basic needs ourselves, so why put up with the BS of a relationship unless there are some perks in it. Now I know everyone is screaming "Gold Digger" right about now. But that is not the case. Women used to have to rely on a man for our basic needs.... Home, clothes, food... Now we don't... So when entering into this relationship business, you need to bring more to the table... Commitment, honesty, fidelity, love, trust, faith, these are just a few of the things that have deterriated (sp) over the years. It is no longer about basic needs any more.... The same goes for women. We need to bring more to the relationship than a warm dinner and a martini at night. But in this throw away society, if the instant gratification is not met, then we toss it and try again....Thus the failed relationships over and over again.
JMHO......
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/22/2009 1:24:21 PM | Its interesting to talk to non Americans about this...... hi sugar .....:>))
They kind of think american women have the idea they dont need a man........ Oprah doesnt help that image either, lol.......... and in many places not as modern as here, women still depend on their men for basic necessities.
You know I have known lots of women that this thread could be about...... but as an American man you just dont think about it unless its working against you........ pretty, smart girls get alot of attention and theres much competition for them in this country.....
they choose, thats alot of power to have bestowed upon you. | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/26/2009 9:09:47 AM | so you are saying that marrying an american woman is stupidity. Hmmm yep that will work real well for ya here. Or are you implying that you would rather have a woman that you can dominate because she doesn't know any better? Either answer still doesn't speak too highly of you.....
Yes, and this answer of yours is typical and what I expected...it speaks very lowly of you. This is why I think it is ridiculiously stupid to marry American women. Your answer implies the typical lack of thinking of our "little princesses". You imeadiatly assume that the reason is that I, or other men who would rather marry women from abroad wish to dominate that woman. That just shows that you have absolutly no understanding of men, nor do you respect them. And that is the typical behavior of the American princess. Forign gals don't usually have that irriational thinking process, not to mention they are more likely to to look at a marriage as a partnership between to people working together. An American woman usually looks at a marrage as an extension of daddy, it is all about taking with her and no giving in return. She is usually compleatly opposed to contributing anything to the relationship at all. It just that alot of you girls from here are really undesirable, not to mention you carry a shit load of baggage. It is not about wanting to domintate, it is about wanting to marry someone you can actually be happy with and work with, instead of someone who will constiantly belittle and abuse you.
Disclaimer: Yes I'm aware that there are some American gals out there that aren't like that, but they are in the majority (a shrinking majority). Even my mom says most young women in America these days are useless. | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/27/2009 8:35:23 PM | Men or women who suffer from 'the syndrome' what's in it for me are not going to be very good candidates for friends, let alone partners. The challenge is to offer friendship with out being sorely mistaken, taken for a ride, or bamboozled.
Throwing caution to the wind is not the solution, but we can use some grace and diplomacy in the selection process. Finding common ground takes work.
If one other offers 'common ground' that is repugnant (love me, love my dog--or my kids--or my mother--or my golf game--or my charity board membership) to the other, and cannot seek COMMON ground, well, call it whatever you want (this or that syndrome) it just ain't a relationship.
Like that Western song "Put Another Log on the Fire"...there are many verses which can span the spectrum from Paris Hilton and that guy with the bad combover to Ma and Pa Kettle or The SNL Wild and Crazy Guys. Any of those scenarios can be an entertaining friend, but I'm loath to jump at "life partner" with anyone on date two or even date ten. What do you call folks who offer verbal criticism about "life partnership" on date one? | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/28/2009 1:13:02 PM | Princess, Queen, Diva.....
Um really. I see the attitude, I dont see it warranted. No royal family here, so really nobody gets to rightfully legitimately claim Princess or Queen. (heres your opt out guys, you dont have to be the Prince either) And Diva, that one has be glommed on and over worked by the BBW crowd; there are really very few Divas, they are all in Las Vegas doing shows ;)
Shop overseas. Different culture, different expectations, and opt out of the loop.
The American Dream: house, car, wife, children, secure good job. It aint the 50's, nothing in that equation is rosy as it was in that era. The exit out of that suburban stereotype is your Passport, Travel Visa, and money to get overseas. Happy fishing boys. | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/28/2009 3:32:34 PM | I totally disagree...
It is not that women expect - they are not good at expressing at themselves and if they learn a bad habit, they continue to do so until they realize that what they want breaks that mold, and they adjust.
I had a gf whom was once a model, that ended up doing two things that changed her life. She moved from her awesome designer address in Chicago to a rural farm. She only ordered from designer sites until we made a road trip to a Walmart. From that time forward anytime we did a road trip - "Lets stop by a Walmart". What gravitated her to me was the experience of a change...she never realized that you had to be "just one way". Conversely - I learned a bit about style and the way the other half lives.
My point being, we all like to have an agenda - until when we meet someone that breaks that mold, you realize that it is taught behavior. Yes, there are women that only go for for what is on the list, and the others have the list but crave just the sense of adventure and actually being part of a different lifestyle so to speak. Problem is the presentation we try to exude and the perception that actually results. When their is true attraction - and real communication, you begin to realize that we all try to live a life to impress or inflate out own self worth. Guys are guilty too (and I obviously am one) with sexy cars, dress, bragging about what they do etc.. You never hear "So is that guy suffering the prince Syndrome"... no you - call him a player...And we all know that its an act to get attention until someone actually grabs it...
Eventually, if you open your mind and realize - its a path that takes you to the next path. As with any addiction - it only carries forth it is allowed to be fueled and life always comes circle and so does how the importance changes in the variety of aspects we view it... | |
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| Do you think that American women today, in general, suffer from The Princess Syndrome?
Posted: 10/29/2009 8:04:59 PM | Yes, optimally for it to work best. You dont get married in the US, and you dont return to the US. Even though you maybe married overseas, its not an American Legal binding agreement. You still have to petition for her citizenship, it is not automatic. Stay overseas as an expat, or dont petition for citizenship and you opt out of the marriage for green card. And the divorce rules over seas are far more stacked in the favor of the guy than they are here. Marriage in the US isnt the loosing proposition, its the divorce! and at 50% rate, go flip a coin to see if you want to loose half your assets, and future assets, and child support. Its just not a winning proposition for men.
(and for heaven sakes get your shiate spayed/neutered) or child support is just another fun rosey experiment you get to participate in. | |
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