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 Author Thread: Does your religion or superstition prevent you from donating? Do you care? Are you giving it all to science?
 desiree1960

Joined: 12/28/2008
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Posted: 2/27/2009 1:43:43 PM
I think the song from Bubbles was called " Liquor and whores"

V

 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 8:37:01 AM
I plan to live til an age where my organs are useless to anyone else, but if I die younger then I would be happy if others could benefit from any of my body parts that may still be usable. It would be nice for the remaining family members to know that someone else has an improved quality of life because of the one who died. Waiting lists for organs grow every year, so it is worth taking the time to ponder this and sign a donor card if you feel so inclined!
 gravelman

Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 3/1/2009 9:34:28 AM
hey disiree isn't it something like candy is dandy but liquor is quicker
 *Colibri*

Joined: 5/25/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 10:48:06 AM
If there was a body farm in Canada, I would donate myself to it. I relish the thought of being useful even when I'm dead. But, I am a scientist at heart. If there is a soul, or afterlife, I highly doubt it has any attachments to my corpse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Farm
 icehunter

Joined: 11/13/2006
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Posted: 3/1/2009 11:02:08 AM
An i am just gonna put my tinfoil hat on,sit back and read this forum...while munching on popcorn... ...seems to me like a lotta propoganda bs in this thread and to be honest...if you want to donate ....DO..IT...if not....DONT DO IT....its real simple...

Why sit back and argue a mundane point?? Just because Joe Blow wants to donate thats HIS CHOICE....leave it at that for FFS....Jeez...every time I stop in here it just blows my mind...
 jason1965

Joined: 1/10/2009
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Posted: 3/1/2009 3:33:59 PM
It was almost 16 years ago when my first wife had a stroke at the age of 34. It affected her brain stem so there was no chance of there ever being a recovery. Over the period of a few days she deteriorated to the point where she was brain dead. 2 doctors independently performed a number of tests to ensure that she was actually brain dead. She was breathing with a respirator and her heart still was beating. She was a very healthy lady and that prompted the doctors to approach me with the option of organ donation. It wasn't that hard of a decision to make strangely enough. When I consented, it set off a chain of amazing events. Tests were done and potential recipients from all over Australia were notified and jets with teams of doctors flew in to harvest the organs. A young mother received the heart and lungs, the kidneys went to 2 different individuals. Everything that could have been used was used including the eyes and bones. The doctors and the transplant coordinator explained everything to me at the time. They gave me the option of excluding certain body parts if I had an issue with it but I didn't see the need to exclude anything. I received a number of letters anonymously through the transplant coordinator from the recipients and their families. The gratitude was amazing. Sometimes something good can come from a tragedy. Did my wife have an organ donation card filled out? No she didn't, but we had talked about things like that in the past and I knew how she felt about it. It may not be for everybody but for those who are not adverse to the idea, you may be able to help someone. If you aren't sure, perhaps just doing some research on the subject may help you make a decision.
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 6:11:41 PM
Wow Jason-how sad that you lost your wife at such a young age! And that you could agree to donate her organs.Likely you will never know how many people benefitted from your decision.God bless!
 jason1965

Joined: 1/10/2009
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Posted: 3/1/2009 6:55:04 PM
We were married 7 years and I did consult with her mother who was her only living parent. You would really have to be very presumptuous to claim to know anything about our relationship or the things we talked about or her feelings on certain matters. Legally we had the right to make that decision. I know that some people have issues with organ donation and that's their right. Seeing as there was no advantage for me or my mother in law in this, financially or otherwise, I am not sure that the chop shop analogy really works.
 anApplepear

Joined: 12/9/2005
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Posted: 3/1/2009 7:01:32 PM
jason1965, your story is kind of scary.
I don't think it would be that easy to have the life support respirator pull off and let someone die right in front of you and her case was legal? I thought I heard lots of cases that the parents have to go to court to ask the disconnection of life support equipment that hooked onto their brain damaged child. How that your case was so easy? How long was she breathing with a respirator before the team ( including you ) decided she should died within an exact giving time so she could be cut up and divided ?
 Shaun~N~Die

Joined: 1/3/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 7:16:34 PM
It depends on what the patient wants and if its documented. Or if the husband wants one thing and the parents want another than there can often be a court battle, but it usually is the husband or wife's choice if there is no legal documentation, resussatation order or donor card. It's really not that hard...you only hear about the sensationalized battles on TV and in news.

Jason...I think you did a noble thing and your wife would be proud. I don't imagine that decision would ever be an easy one to make.

OT: As for myself. Cut me up and spread my parts around.
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 36
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Posted: 3/1/2009 7:20:45 PM
I think Jason's story is tragic in that he lost his wife at a young age. However that is not the subject of this thread.What a generous couple they were to give a new chance at life to many!
 jason1965

Joined: 1/10/2009
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Posted: 3/1/2009 7:22:02 PM
In Australia the law is that when a person is declared brain dead by 2 doctors, they are considered dead and they are not left on a respirator. One does not have the choice to leave them on a respirator. The only reason the heart beats in someone who is brain dead is because they are hooked up to a respirator. Had this not been the law, I would have requested that she be disconnected. What exactly is the purpose of using graphic expressions such as "cut up and divided"? Is it to give the impression that a living person was butchered? That is hardly the case. The person is dead and their body is treated with the utmost respect and dignity by the doctors and nurses and these "parts" that are being referred to are organs that can be used to help others live. It's not some kind of Frankenstein drama. When you are faced with a similar situation you can make any decision you want. I was not telling my story to start some kind of moral debate but rather to provide some insight into the world of organ donations.
 trubblemakr

Joined: 4/29/2006
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Posted: 3/1/2009 7:35:12 PM
dude i wasnt being presumptious, read your own post, i commented on your comments.

i dont care if you profitted or didnt
i would have preferred you had tho , since surely those drs profitted by the parting out of your wife
and the analogy of butchering a live human being. altho it might sound a lil blunt is quite accurate
you can water it down and use whatever politically defuct term you choose , however removing the organs you specified is akin to a common butcgery practice
whether ytou feel good or not , or got your jollies out of helping someone else is irrelevant
the woman plainly didnt sign any organ donation card, as you stated. so therefore in the absence of a organ donation card, we err on the side of intelligence and assume the person didnt want to be parted out and shipped to numerous other people
 anApplepear

Joined: 12/9/2005
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Posted: 3/1/2009 8:07:18 PM
All I see in here is that it is not up to me to decide to donate my organs or not, it is up to my survivors, in my case it is my 2 kids. Next time when I see them I will bring up this subject, and tell them if they feel comfortable and want my organs to be donated, they can sign the paper, by all mean when that time comes, I am all dead, what would I know? But right at this moment I am still undecided.

My mother is dying soon, since she doesn't speak a word of English, maybe I should tell the doctors that she wants to donate her corneas and whatsoever is still useful, and why not? I never like her and to do this against her will would be my last chance of revenge. But how dare me.........sigh!!!
 Diva77

Joined: 10/31/2008
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Posted: 3/1/2009 9:11:18 PM
I've signed my health cards as organ donor, but I think by the time my time is up, there won't be much of anything worth donating. I should know...they don't even call me to donate blood. :)

But... if I were completely healthy and had healthy organs to donate, I'd have no issue with it. My spirituality doesn't prevent me from making this decision - it's your decision alone to make, no one else's.
 springfish

Joined: 12/17/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 1:23:28 AM
I read it in the paper that someone in their 30's died and all organs were donated, 3 lucky people got to live as a result of it....
To Touch or Not to Touch-----> my organ!
Posted: 3/2/2009 11:10:41 AM
When my mother died a few years ago, my father asked for the doctors to take anything they could. Because she had not signed a donor card, they could NOT harvest any organs.

If you do not sign your donor card, unless this law has changed, your loved ones cannot give permission, nor request donation on your behalf. As well, if you DO sign your card, your loved ones do not have the choice to renege on your behalf.

"They" can have any and everything I am not taking to the afterlife.

 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 11:52:55 AM
Thanks for the clarification about rules and regulations. Every jurisdiction is different, as we can see already!
 ChucksWorld

Joined: 12/26/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 3:14:15 PM
Oh ya... - I agree with My nameis..
The thing is this.. The donor card is great.. I for one sign it.
And the idea is to let the CREATOR decide.. or maybe have some say in the matter.
And if it so happens that 3 lucky people live because of donated organs.. Great.
Now here's the new Thing.

The medical community is working really hard on organ regrowth. . From stem cell and all that other advance work that is going on. So by the time we are 80... Ya.
I can imagine, that organ regrowth... will have been mastered, and the new approach will be that some people will be able o acquire what they need.

\ respect anothers choice in this matter. It's personal,, and it should remain that way.
Sometimes influanced by religions beliefs, some by family, others by thier own judgement.
Cheers everyone.
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
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Posted: 3/2/2009 5:14:20 PM
To Applepear-what a great idea!
 ~*GEM*~

Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 46
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:12:29 PM
When my son's best friend was left on life support after a car accident at age 8 or 9, his family decided to donate his organs. I admire their choice and know that Tyler lives on to this day in other children. He was finished with his body and had already moved on so why not allow others to benefit from a tragedy.
 papabearTM

Joined: 11/20/2008
Msg: 47
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:48:25 PM
"Starting tomorrow, I will eat nothing but greasy fast food meals. I will also stroll down 118th and utilize the sexual services of the crack whores there (after all, the government advocates we shouldn't worry about the economy and we should spend, spend, spend !). I will also give up any form of exercise and my sports activities to help my body deteriorate quicker. Additionally, I'll take up smoking and heavy binge drinking"

Haven't you been doing that for a while, there, BB?? Why would tomorrow be so special?

 Tessav

Joined: 2/6/2008
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:59:56 PM
I am very certain in my decision to donate my body - usable parts or medical research - it makes no never mind to me. I'll be dead.

I would ask that you consider that your child has a medical condition and is living in a hospital on dialysis awaiting a kidney transplant. You, as a parent, are willing to donate one of yours, but you are not a match. How sick would you be at all the healthy organs being buried and burned while your child dies waiting?

Just a thought. But today its not your child, so it doesn't affect you, does it?
 1Georgia2

Joined: 12/1/2008
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Posted: 3/5/2009 9:38:22 PM
Duffster, I could kiss you.
I know several people that have been recipients of transplants. The transplant gave these people (and their families) a new lease on life. If I qualified as a donor, I would gladly give whatever was needed. When I don't need it anymore, why not give someone else the opportunity to enjoy life.
 ~ Cndn Girl ~

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Posted: 3/8/2009 8:01:57 AM

In Australia the law is that when a person is declared brain dead by 2 doctors, they are considered dead and they are not left on a respirator. One does not have the choice to leave them on a respirator.


Anyone know what the Canadian laws are on this?

This scares me. I have HUGE faith in the body's ability to heal itself. People recover from things no one (including the foremost medical experts) ever thought possible. What if kept on the respirator long enough the cells miraculously grew and a person actually RECOVERED.

I wonder if there is any record of someone recovering after being pronounced brain dead?
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