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 pirateheaven
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Al Gore bought a house on the beach in Montecito, perhaps 5 feet above sea level. I think that would pretty much convince anyone but a kool-aid addict.

On the other hand Al personally made $100M off various scammer, green related industries like ethanol.

This should put the nail in the coffin of the long list of scientifically fraudulent, junk science scams their deep-thinking, true believers fall for with stunning frequency.


The whole bogus human influenced global warming movement is comprised of "feel gooders" and no amount of empirical information will change their mind. They are also sheeple who want to fit into the liberal mind set. Only intellectually honest people can admit they were wrong.
 fzrhusker
Joined: 10/8/2005
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Posted: 12/9/2010 6:24:00 AM


Now Climate Alarmists Claim Melting Glaciers Cause Cancer

David Derbyshire
UK Daily Mail
Dec 9, 2010

Melting glaciers and ice sheets are releasing cancer-causing pollutants into the air and oceans, scientists say.

The long-lasting chemicals get into the food chain and build up in people’s bodies – triggering tumours, heart disease and infertility.

The warning comes in new international study into the links between climate change and a class of man-made toxins called persistent organic pollutants.

The study – due to be published next month – says rising temperatures and more extreme weather are increasing human exposure to pollutants around the world, including in Britain.

Scientists are concerned about Persistent Organic Pollutants, or POPs, because they last decades in the environment and accumulate in body tissue.

Read story here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1336810/Climate-change-cancer-UN-report-warns-deadly-pollutants-glaciers.html
 matchlight
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Posted: 12/9/2010 8:25:47 AM
^^^^Doesn't one of those chi-chi bottled water companies say its water comes from a glacier someplace?
 pirateheaven
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Posted: 12/9/2010 11:31:59 AM

Now Climate Alarmists Claim Melting Glaciers Cause Cancer


That is laughable.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 12/12/2010 9:30:40 AM
Obama’s new tax on…Rainwater!?

Americans for Prosperity
December 11, 2010

Would President Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency really force Americans to pay a tax on “rainwater runoff” from homes and small businesses?

You bet they would. In fact, the EPA, under radical environmentalist Lisa Jackson, is proposing regulations to do just that.

Take a look at the EPA’s own Federal Register filing, where the EPA generally describes the initiative it’s proposing:

…requirements, including design or performance standards, for storm-water discharges from, at minimum, newly developed and redeveloped sites. EPA intends to propose regulatory options that would revise the NPDES regulations and establish a comprehensive program to address storm-water discharges from newly developed and redeveloped sites and to take final action no later than November 2012. (Source)

This is bureaucratic-speak for having the EPA force cities and counties to limit storm-water runoff to levels the EPA deems acceptable. Limiting “rainwater runoff” will mean forcing homeowners and businesses to pay new taxes in order to rein in rainwater, and that’s no pun intended.
 matchlight
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Posted: 12/12/2010 11:37:25 AM
^^^^Ask me about all that sometime. It's the kind of stuff I used to do in the office I once worked in, which had a lot of small cities as clients. Those non-point discharge rules for storm water runoff affect every building site, gas station, hamburger stand, grocery store, motel, parking lot, apartment building, etc.--and to some extent, even private houses--in every town and city in the U.S. They're also the reason for those painted signs on the sidewalk next to every catch basin for the storm sewers. What makes it a federal matter in L.A. is the fact the discharge ends up in the ocean offshore, which is a "water of the United States."

EPA has more than 6,000 employees just at its HQ building in D.C. It has many thousands more all over the country. Its district offices have their own staffs of administrative law judges. One of them hounded my Dad and cost him a lot of money, all because of a trivial violation at his business. He had a minor problem with a heart valve, which he had under control. But not after that--and I'll always believe they made it a lot worse. He used to call them "dirty godd----d b------s," and I couldn't agree more.
 JackDiamond312
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Posted: 12/13/2010 8:37:18 AM
You know, they are right!

Global Warming is a Man Made catastrophe. Sure, Man is the creator of this disaster.

The disaster is the creation of this idea that Climate Change is something new, and only due to man's bad habits and our lack of taking care of the planet. The disaster is the scare tactic used by those environmentalists and heads of state who use the climate as a way to control the masses and attempt to distribute wealth.

But, I believe people are waking up, not only to the lies of these global warming idiots, but also to the whole progressive lie. Americans will not swallow socialism, the individual is stronger than the collective... and we will not surrender our freedoms as individuals.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
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Posted: 12/13/2010 9:43:05 AM
Jack never underestimate the power of freebies. A large group of modern Americans consider government the source of goodies, like a child thinks of mom and dad. Very little principle involved in the hearts and minds of people educated in modern American school systems, malignant self-absorption from overstuffed fools.
 GolfCoast
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Msg: 434
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Posted: 12/15/2010 12:31:05 PM
Can you name any other politicians seeking power because of the weather? The left has this phenomenal need to rule other's lives. And of course the same kind of people in the USA and venezuela love to be hugged by guys promising to make the railroads run on time, plus removing all those annoying decisions that cut into their pot smoking time.

Chavez seeks power to rule by decree for 1 year
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CARACAS, Venezuela – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Tuesday asked congress to grant him special powers to enact laws by decree for one year, just before a new legislature takes office with a larger contingent of opposition lawmakers.

The measure would give the president the ability to bypass the National Assembly for the fourth time since he was first elected almost 12 years ago.

Vice President Elias Jaua made the request on Chavez's behalf, saying the president will use the authorization to ensure fast-track approval of laws aimed at helping the nation recover from severe flooding and mudslides that left thousands homeless and in government shelters.

"The measures we have to take are deep. Almost 40 percent of the country was affected" by the heavy rains, Jaua said.
 pirateheaven
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Posted: 12/15/2010 12:40:37 PM

saying the president will use the authorization to ensure fast-track approval of laws aimed at helping the nation recover from severe flooding and mudslides that left thousands homeless and in government shelters.

"The measures we have to take are deep. Almost 40 percent of the country was affected" by the heavy rains, Jaua said.


If people buy this rationalization, then they are nuts. He already controls the media, now he is aiming to be Joe Stalin.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 1/6/2011 9:23:56 AM
Eco-Fascists Call For Prison Cities

Watch this short video, Orwell is turning over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcp6ov9Md8U&feature=player_embedded

Obey enviro-tyranny or be banished to the ghetto, threatens new government-funded propaganda piece

Eco Fascists Call For Prison Cities GreenNazi1

Thursday, January 6, 2010

People who resist the state controlling every aspect of their existence will be forced to live in squalid ghettos while the rest of the population will be tightly controlled in high-tech prison cities – that’s the future envisaged by eco-fascists who are exploiting the contrived global warming fraud to openly flaunt their plan for the total enslavement of mankind.

The threat posed by the kind of scenario being promoted by Forum for the Future, the group responsible for the chilling video below, cannot be emphasized enough. The dictatorial hellhole of 2040, where cars will be banned, meat rationed, farming completely abolished and overtaken by the state, behavior catalogued on “calorie cards,” and careers ordained by the government, is the ultimate goal of the control freaks who have seized the reigns of the environmental movement.

Nearly every aspect of the policies undertaken by the global dictatorship that runs the “planned-opolis” depicted in the video are lifted wholesale from historical tyrannies.

- The state completely taking over the means of food production and farming. This is a throwback to the Soviet system of collectivized farming, where Stalin organized land and labor into large-scale collective farms. Farmers who resisted the state taking over their farms were arrested and sent to Siberian gulags. As a result of the mass seizure of property and the disruption that collective farming brought to food production, upwards of 3 million people died from starvation from 1932-33 alone. A similar system imposed in Maoist China under the “Great Leap Forward” led to the Great Chinese Famine and the starvation of at least 36 million people.

- The incarceration of resistors to green fascism inside squalid ghettos and their subsequent separation from family members is a frightening throwback to the Nazi-run Warsaw Ghetto and other concentration camps and prisons within cities that housed Jews and political dissidents during World War Two.

- The restriction or even outlawing of meat, something already being vehemently pushed by eco-fascists, to the point where a hamburger becomes a rare delicacy to be enjoyed on special occasions – and only then if you can afford it. As my wife who is Chinese will attest, up until the late 80′s before China started to lift itself out of poverty, meat was a rare treat that was sparsely available and highly restricted. Again, the “planned-opolis” is nothing less than a fusion of Communist and fascist control measures inflicted upon the population to keep them poor, starving and weak.

The people who produced this video, funded by monolithic elitist banks and corporations like Royal Dutch Shell and Bank of America as well as the British government, know very well that every aspect of their “planned-opolis” is lifted directly from the most abhorrent and brutal dictatorships in history. They are openly flaunting the neo-fascist ideology behind the green movement.

Of course, as is made clear in the video, none of these regulations or controls will apply to any of the elitists imposing them on the rest of us. Think Al Gore and his multiple oceanside mansions with heated swimming pools. They will still be able to roll around in SUV’s and fly private jets while quaffing the finest fillet steak and belching tons of CO2 as they lecture the rest of humanity about their carbon footprint. Think Prince Charles and his insistence that the proles not be allowed to take baths as he lounges in the luxuriant splendor of royal palaces.

They are also engaged in a ploy to shift the parameters of the Overton Window - which is defined as “A range of policies considered to be politically acceptable in the current climate of public opinion.” By constantly bombarding us with extreme and repugnant proposals, they gradually wear down the human psyche until people begin to accept draconian controls over their personal life as normal, necessary and reasonable.

This is part of the reason behind last year’s “splattergate” controversy, where global warming alarmists – again funded by government and big business – produced an infomercial in which children who refused to lower their carbon emissions were slaughtered in an orgy of blood and guts.

This is a psychological attack and a realization of the stepping stone method to tyranny. Whereas we might not accept cars being banned and meat being rationed now, we will accept incandescent light bulbs being outlawed and paying carbon taxes on fuel. As each hurdle is cleared, the globalists propose something more extreme so that we will always come to a compromise and accept a slighter lesser tyranny, but in the long term, the elitists achieve all of their goals with aplomb.

And to top it all off, the debate between the “liberals” over at the Guardian website in response to this story did not revolve around a castigation of this authoritarian future hell, but a question of whether old people should merely be advised by government workers how to kill themselves when they reach 65, or whether the state should just kill them directly.

This kind of despotic destiny is not only being pushed by the elite, it has an army of greenwashed zombies behind it who have been recruited to make the democide of the elderly (the useless eaters) an intellectually acceptable and reasonable idea. Presumably, the disabled and the mentally ill will also be exterminated in the pursuit of a highly efficient “planned-opolis,” another idea of which Hitler would have vehemently approved.

Once government is given the power to kill anyone they deem to be unproductive in this collectivist Orwellian nightmare, the gates of hell are thrown wide open. In comparison, meat rationing, carbon taxes, eco-surveillance, calorie credits and transport restriction will seem like a walk in the park.

Endgame, released in 2006, warned precisely of the kind of hi-tech slave grids being implemented that are now routinely proposed by top eco-fascist organizations. We urge you to warn everyone you know about this agenda and to stand up in unison to resist the first great assault on human liberty of the 21st century, which is now certain to be inflicted on us under the guise of saving mother earth. We either stop this now, or we end up in the eco-ghettos that our masters have readied for us in their “planned-opolis” of 2040.
 matchlight
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Posted: 1/6/2011 10:55:16 AM
^^^^^I get the idea, but I think they're missing something. In this country, I believe people at some point would just refuse to obey--sort of like they did with Prohibition. When millions of people tell the government to go to hell, it can't throw them all in jail. And we still can vote--remember that even though the states voted Prohibition into the Constitution, they also voted it out again.

What we really have to be careful about is letting Barack Hussein Obama, or some other power-hungry president, *dilute* our votes in roundabout ways. Using executive orders improperly is one way. So is tampering with the election process. So is using federal funds to buy votes, as we saw with the health care bill. And worst of all is using administrative agencies to circumvent Congress, when you don't have the votes to get a bill passed.

Can't get Cap and Trade through? No problem--just use the good old Clean Air Act, instead, as your weapon against global warming. All you need is an EPA rule that defines CO2 a "pollutant," and you can control America's whole industrial base. The decision three years ago authorizing that definition is one of the most illegitimate ones the Supreme Court has ever made, IMO. Before that, I'd just disagreed with Justice Stevens, but that decision made me doubt his integrity.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 1/12/2011 7:50:12 AM
The Washington Post

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in
some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a
report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at
Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all
point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto
unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions
report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees
29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf
stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by
moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many
points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic ,
while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before
ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing
grounds. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt
the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.
====================
Oops. Never mind. This report was from November 2, 1922, as reported
by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 88 years ago!
Meanwhile there is a blizzard and extreme cold in New York.
 GolfCoast
Joined: 3/17/2008
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Posted: 1/12/2011 8:20:41 AM
Fzr for a moment you had me scared, you were reminding me of the guy in front of me in a Prius this morning motoring along at about 17 MPH tears running down his face because the mile of ice covering Chicago 10,000 years ago had melted.

I've come to be of the mind the best part of the progressive left is the life force has largely left them, they'll not be reproducing much and expiring on Obama demand like so many conditioned rats in a Skinner box.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 1/12/2011 8:44:01 AM
GC it just goes to show the lack of historical context that many people on these forums have when they try to discuss subjects. They fail to see the unintended consequences of policy, taxes, and many of the things we discuss. When you present them with the historical context they respond emotionally or call it a conspiracy theory.
 GolfCoast
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Posted: 1/12/2011 9:29:24 AM
Fzr I'm not gonna pretend to be some kinda savant here but I'm guessing they ain't holding up any Mensa meetings because these progressives are running late.
 matchlight
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Posted: 1/12/2011 10:51:29 AM
^^^^^I can't think of even one of them, at least in the public eye, who seems all that bright. Read part of our First Lady's senior thesis at Princeton some time, or some of the notes Ms. Sotomayor inserted in her written speeches. I read both these things, and they are pretty sorry pieces of tripe.

When most liberals think of intelligence, they're thinking of the likes of Hilary Clinton, or some professor they saw interviewed on MSNBC. Bill Maher, maybe. Or of our president himself. Can't leave him out.
 pirateheaven
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Posted: 1/13/2011 10:43:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/StevenCrowder#p/a/u/0/CNMJOhl79XM

I don't know if this was posted before, but it sums things up nicely
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 2/9/2011 7:50:08 AM
The EPA waivers begin
By: DrJohn

And you’ll never guess who got one.

The Obama adminstration has issued over 700 waivers granting employers exemptions from participating in Obamacare. Among them is the SEIU, which lobbied hard to have Obamacare implemented so health care costs would be lowered. Now SEIU is exempt because complying with the new cost-lowering law would be too expensive. The SEIU contributed $28 million to the Obama campaign but has no money for Obamacare compliance.

In January the new EPA regulations became effective and almost immediately the Obama administration granted an exemption to the new regulations.

The Obama administration will spare a stalled power plant project in California from the newest federal limits on greenhouse gases and conventional air pollution, U.S. EPA says in a new court filing that marks a policy shift in the face of industry groups and Republicans accusing the agency of holding up construction of large industrial facilities.

The exemption went to the Avenal Power Center, which now is not subject to the current air quality standards. As Tim Carney points out, there’s something curious about this Avenal Power Center:

The proposed Avenal Energy project will be a combined-cycle generating plant consisting of two natural gas-fired General Electric 7FA Gas Turbines with Heat Recovery Steam Generators (HRSG) and one General Electric Steam Turbine.

General Electric.

During his campaign Barack Obama received a great deal of money from GE:

By far, the top recipient of GE money last election was Barack Obama. Obama received far more from GE last cycle — $458,730 — than any candidate in history. The company was in the top 15 of Obama’s fundraising sources. He raised nearly five times as much as McCain from GE, and more than the top 25 Republicans, combined.

Coincidentally, Obama’s plans have evolved such that they are largely congruent with GE CEO Jeff Immelt’s plans. So much so that Carney labeled GE “Government Electric.”

• Obama pushes a cap-and-trade scheme for curbing greenhouse gasses — GE invests in greenhouse gas credits.

• Obama advocates federal support for expanding high-speed rail across the country — GE ramps up its investment in high-speed rail.

• Obama dedicates federal funding to embryonic stem-cell research that destroys human embryos — GE partners with stem-cell giant Geron.

• Obama announces a federal push to curb health care expenses — GE launches “healthymagination,” an initiative pitched as creating more affordable high-tech medical products.

And that was way back in 2009. It’s gotten a lot worse.

The obviousness of political favor in granting waivers should be painfully embarrassing were it not for the useful idiocy of the legacy media.

And now Immelt is Obama's Job CZAR. Makes you go mmmmmmmmm!
 matchlight
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Posted: 2/9/2011 9:39:39 AM
I just read a good article by a law professor at Columbia, arguing that the health care waivers are unconstitutional. I think he's dead right, and the same applies to these clean air waivers. History explains why.

These waivers are the modern version of dispensing grants, which kings in England had copied from the Church and used starting about 1200. They exempted particular people or corporations from a law, and there were also suspensions, which exempted everyone from it. In 1688, Parliament declared both these illegal, except as it authorized by statute.

Here, the state constitutions went even further. By then, it was generally recognized that temporarily suspending a law was part of a legislature's power. So, the state constitutions kept this power, but they said it could only be exercised by the legislature, or as it delegated by statute. The U.S. Constitution went further yet, by leaving out authority for Congress even to delegate the power to suspend a law.

And neither the constitutions of any state or of the United States ever authorized dispensation, let alone delegating the power to grant it. The U.S. Constitution places all legislative power in Congress. But neither it nor the Executive Branch has any power to dispense with a law--to place anyone *above* it.

Sure, a president can tell the Attorney General, within limits, not to prosecute violations of a law, and he can pardon people who have already violated laws. But until Congress changes a law, neither it nor the President can just tell some favored person that he's not bound by it.

And yet the Executive Branch, in the form of an administrative agency like HHS or EPA, is doing exactly that when it says a federal law doesn't apply to certain companies or projects. Nothing in the text or even the history of the Constitution even implies that either the Legislative or Executive branch has any power to waive the law for particular persons.

When some are above the law, we're not really living under the rule of law any more. "Where the law ends, tyranny begins." It's no surprise that doesn't bother leftists. For all their talk about individual liberties, they are totalitarians at heart. And that is why they scorn and constantly try to ignore the Constitution--it limits the power of our government.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 3/14/2011 12:05:13 AM
Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.

Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it's that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans, and all animal life.

I know, it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cents light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs made in China...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time - EVERY DAY.

I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it.

Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus "human-caused" climate change scenario.

Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention "Global Warming" any more, but just "Climate Change" - you know why? It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.

And just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.

But hey, relax, give the world a hug and have a nice day!
 matchlight
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Posted: 3/14/2011 8:01:47 AM
^^^^^If you want a good laugh, read the decision where the Supreme Court said CO2 fits the Clean Air Act's definition of a "pollutant." You can just see the majority torturing common sense, stretching the definition's wording to make it fit the result it wanted. Justice Stevens' parting middle finger to the Constitution.

And Obama is using an EPA rule based on that phony definition to do what he couldn't get Congress to do with Cap and Trade (another basically unconstitutional way to dilute your vote.) It will give unelected EPA officials control over most of the industry in this country--a leftist's dream. That's why we need a constitutional amendment to let Congress overrule any decision of the Court--maybe by a 60% majority of both Houses. Congress already has the final say over all the lower federal courts.
 fzrhusker
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Posted: 3/29/2011 7:40:03 AM
So here is one of the ideas that comes from this carbon crap scam.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAz7jyG0qfw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q966tz9aEHM&feature=player_embedded

 ThinkinginCA
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Posted: 3/30/2011 5:34:14 AM
So much inanity.

You're right about he whole scheme being a scam, but only because it's being crafted by politicians that are owned by the energy companies.

If the nuclear reactor accident in Japan, and the poisons that and the fossil fuel industry spews on the globe doesn't tell you how perilous and precarious the situation is, nothing will get through because you're too with wasteful and inefficient energy delivery and want to drive vehicles created for indulgent people.
 pirateheaven
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Posted: 3/30/2011 8:57:17 PM
Maybe it's all a conspiracy. Union teachers and administrators turning out one generation more ignorant than the last. CA ranks 47th out of 50 states in education, we should just eliminate all public schools. How much lower can we sink, we are only two rungs above rock bottom?
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