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 cotter
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Think of it as a "stimulus package".
The "stimulus package" is in the mail ... they promise to use generic labeling so the neighbors won't know for sure what it is.

Seriously, you can't get statistics by zip code and if that is what he did, the results aren't worth much.
I thought I saw where they got the statistics by zip code of the credit cards used, but I'm not sure.

More people who order online porn are gay men -- (ok, gotta answer now) -- Once did computer work for a billing company -- the gay men paid their bills and were the bulk of the billing. I thought that was interesting.
I was finding that difficult to believe, (was gonna say "hard" to believe ... changed my mind) so I went looking around and found this in Wiki ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_pornography
Gay pornography comprises a disproportionately large part of the pornography industry.
Oh dear ... does that mean those "red" states have a lot of gays living in them?

I think I'll start a little web store ... selling chastity belts for men ... target those red states. We ladies have to do anything we can to protect our men out there ... don't need to be losing too many more to the other team.
 skoochie
Joined: 4/29/2008
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Posted: 3/3/2009 6:50:20 PM
Anne Coulter is the John Holmes of the Republican Party.
 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 3/3/2009 7:24:12 PM

Anne Coulter is the John Holmes of the Republican Party.


Aw, come on, can't it be Elisabeth Hasselbeck? Ann is too damn skinny.
 skoochie
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Posted: 3/3/2009 7:30:42 PM
^^^We all know Ann is more "endowed" than Elizabeth. I think Elizabeth is probably hung like a horse, but she can't be packing like Ann Coulter.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/3/2009 9:37:49 PM


Anne Coulter is the John Holmes of the Republican Party.

Aw, come on, can't it be Elisabeth Hasselbeck? Ann is too damn skinny.
When you guys are through drooling over the republican women ...

are they good at porn? Do they buy porn ...
 Bipolarintense
Joined: 2/21/2009
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Posted: 3/3/2009 9:53:52 PM
Oh come on people do you really think this has anything to do with a persons political choices. It has to do with religious beliefs.


The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users.


Mormons love their porn.
 Beaugrand®™©
Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:02:33 PM
'way back in my checkered past I drove a taxi to pay the bills.
I did notice some trends:
I made more money chauffeuring groups of men to topless bars (aka "gentlemens' clubs"), during
1.) the Baptist Convention,
2.) Doctor/Medical Conventions, and
3.) the Republican Convention.

I don't know how paying for watching nekkid live wimmen gyrating around relates to pornography, I'm just sayin'...
 dragonpat
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:28:22 PM
well of course conservatives need porn. they have "values" that say that sex is only for procreation. Liberals, as we all know, will have sex with anyone, so they dont need porn, and if they want to watch some, they just have to sleep with a conservative who is cheating on his or her spouse.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/6/2009 2:00:45 PM
^^^
... sleep with a conservative who is cheating on his or her spouse.
Are you telling us that there are "conservatives" who would do such a thing?

I thought that was the reason they buy the pornography ... so they won't cheat on their spouse ... right?
 ~birdie~
Joined: 9/6/2008
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Posted: 3/6/2009 5:11:20 PM
Is it because conservatives read about it, while Liberals "do it"?
 Yevgeny
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Posted: 3/6/2009 5:44:41 PM

Is it because conservatives read about it, while Liberals "do it"?


Considering the relative fertility rates, maybe liberals should do some reading up on it.

Naaaah. I like it the way it is.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/6/2009 6:52:23 PM


Is it because conservatives read about it, while Liberals "do it"?

Considering the relative fertility rates, maybe liberals should do some reading up on it.

LMAO ... That was cute.

I've never seen any pornography ... in print or on film.

Are those magazines like ... pocket guides to sex?

The films ... are those like those instructional movies we see in nursing school?
 cncgandolf
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Posted: 3/6/2009 7:26:04 PM
"I've never seen any pornography ... in print or on film. "

ROFL.... you have got to be kidding. It's unavoidable. Just accidentally type in whitehouse.com instead of .gov and you've already experienced it.
 Super Ryan
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Posted: 3/6/2009 7:28:36 PM

The films ... are those like those instructional movies we see in nursing school?

Some do feature nurses.


My guess for the results. Red states probably have less porno shops then blue states, so the people need to go online. I mean Utah was number one. Do they even have a porno shop.

Or maybe all the preaching makes them deviant perverts.
 J_in_SD*
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Posted: 4/7/2009 11:16:24 PM
Two words: Deep Throat.
 serendipiteee
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Posted: 4/8/2009 11:01:42 PM
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Makes sense to me, they're not getting any anywhere else and wmust take it where they can get it. Any porn in a storm... or airport bathroom stall... or whatever.

 Larissan04
Joined: 4/28/2004
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Posted: 4/9/2009 12:55:33 AM
OP~

i actually did a paper on cyber sexual addiction and pornography. i have read soooo many studies on sexual addiction and i can tell you that there really isn't a specific "profile" of those that are addicted to this stuff. i've read tons of these studies, and several books.

what i can tell you is that those who abuse porn are typically male. women sex addicts, when they act out online, typically engage in more relational types of activities...conversing with other men online, cybersex, etc. also 70% of the porn that is downloaded is done so 9 to 5, mon through friday. people from all socioeconomic strata are represented among the sexually addicted porn abuser. it has ruined relatinships, marriages, and many a family. cyber sexual/porn addiction is now one of the leading causes of marital dissolution. some of the personal case studies that i read were enough to make one cry. it's truly just like any other addiction. people have gone bankrupt, lost their familes, the trust and love of their children (what do you do when you are a 10 year old girl and you walk in on your dad masterbating in front of the computer?), their jobs, everything. it's truly truly sad.

i do think that the anatomy of hypocrisy is such that we humans tend to violently condemn the things that we our selves have done. there could also be an element of wanting to censure the stuff so as to relieve one of the temptation of it being available. etc.

lar
 kabiosile
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Posted: 4/9/2009 1:54:08 AM
Funny topic. I am not one to believe in statistics of any kind even when I find them funny or conducive to an argument I am trying to make. Though I can say I know for a fact if you attempt to repress things like sexuality it actually backfires horribly. The more people repress generally speaking the more the obsess.



what do you do when you are a 10 year old girl and you walk in on your dad masterbating in front of the computer?)


Oh my dear lar..... You simply tell her daddy needs some alone time and ask her to knock before she just busts into a closed door. She can say sorry dad I can see your busy and I will come back later... Don't have to make a big deal about masturbation since everyone does it at some point. Even that "innocent" 10 year old probably has already found out about her "sugar dish" as my Fiances grandmother used to call it.

The thing you don't want to do is make a big deal about it nor make her feel bad about it.

Sex is such a completely misunderstood fact of life, and our society has had such an unhealthy repressive attitude towards it for such a long time, it is no wonder to me that people are so obsessed. Part of it is also just a normal part of the aging process. As long as man has been on this earth some manner of this was going on... We are extremely sexual beings. It is part of our very nature to want to bed multiple partners no matter if we choose to or not. We are mammals and all mammals minus a very small percent of oceanic types go for multiple partners even "cheating" if they are the type to fake like they are monogamous.

I think part of the appeal of porn is that it is exciting and stimulates that part of our instinct to want multiple partners without the associated risks. There are also those whom are more voyeuristic by nature but, that is another set of complexities to add to the mix.... It is complex stuff. Bottom line I would MUCH rather have people watch porn and Jack or Jill off than to just run about knocking each other up or worse god forbid spread diseases around. Even if they go to the point of being "addicted." Nothing like that lasts forever so hey enjoy it while you can! Try to at least keep your life in order and tell those people whom want to cash in on your and claim you have a problem to pike off! If you can go 10 times a day and still please your spouse or you dont even really want to bother with a spouse in the first place more power to you.

To me it is far more troublesome to hear about someone who has no desire at all than someone whom is in overdrive. To me the issue with marriages breaking up over porn is due to poor attitudes and misunderstanding. The easiest thing to do is make sure you are well matched with an understanding mate whom has similar appetites to your own. My fiance can care less if I get on the net and cyber with someone. She will likely just say "That is so nerdy!" or "I cant believe you are into just talking or watching a girl on a camera that you will never be able to meet and play with in person." She can also care less if I watch porn when, she is unable or not so into being intimate with me. In fact I bet she would be quite happy that I am not out cheating on her instead! Further there has never been one day that I was not ready for her when she needed me.... I got the magic stick.

Porn, Masturbation, sex, cybering, etc. IT happens get over it. No big deal.

Now when it becomes a problem is when someone spends money on it LOL It is free if you know where to go! HAHAHAHA! I know there are some people whom take things to extreme. Always is. They just need to find a lass that gets turned on like they do or, does not have a problem with it and they will live happily ever after too.

The problems it ' causes' with marriage are not due to the appetite for porn it is caused by a mismatch. They need to find an understanding partner or one whom will enjoy watching it with them, joining them or satisfying their needs in another way. Maybe they need to break out their own web cam and find another couple to play with... To each their own. I do not judge.. Whatever floats yer boat baby...
 Larissan04
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Posted: 4/9/2009 2:21:23 AM
kabiosile~

you really are missing the point here. you obviously have not read any studies on sexual addiction, and are taking a very obvious knee-jerk reaction to the idea that an individual could have some pathology related to sex and sexual materials. let me be clear here... i never said anything about censorship, etc. i was talking sexual addiction. i never said anything about repressing anything, i was talking about the patholgocical abuse of excess.

regarding the comment about the ten year old girl... you again are missing the point...

this was a kid who didn't open a closed door...this is a little girl who routinely was exposed to porn, and her father's masturbating in front of the computer - without any regard for personal boundaries with his own daughter... if you could possibly think that such behavior is even remotely ok then you have issues and understand little about boundaries yourself.

it's not "what ever floats your boat baby" when a person is going bankrupt, losing thier marriage, or gets fired from their job because they are caught masturbating at work...etc. these things have happened to people who suffer from sexual addiction. it's not cute, it's not funny, and yes it is a very big deal to them AND thier families. people have committed suicide over it.

this doesn't break up marriages because the "wife is a prude" this breaks up marraiges becasue the man won't have sex with his wife anymore, or he spends ALL his time on the computer masturbating...guys who are cyber sex addicts often spend more then 8 to 10 hours a day looking at porn, some of them end up gong to massage parlours and spending thier kids college money on happy endings...for some the behavior leads to real life sexual encounters...for others it can lead to other pathological behavior like flashing people, peeking in windows, etc.

it is like any other addiction, and sexual addicts suffer the same impact on thier lives as drug addicts, alcoholics, or gambling addicts do...if you want to see a profile in sexual addiction...watch the movie "auto focus" with greg kinear. it's very tragic.

lar
 kabiosile
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Posted: 4/9/2009 2:51:18 AM
Lar it sounds like to me that things are working out how they should....

If the guy dont want to please his wife and only wants to watch porn then he should not be married or he should marry someone who cant have sex.. Simple enough.

Far as the man without boundaries of at least closing the door when he wanks, well that is his business in my view. I would just instruct the girl to close it for him.. I wouldn't be like that personally but, whatever.... I know tribal and other people in other countries that whole families live in confined quarters and the children grow up seeing the mother and father engage in sex and they dont come out weird or perverted. In fact they tend to be more healthy about their attitude and less obsessive about it than people here in my experience. Here people often treat sex like it is some sort of disease. I think the issue is the attitude more so than the acts. It's no wonder to me at all we have some many "weirdos."

There is always going to be some whom lack self control.. I guess what I am saying is what is your point??

Is this a "pity those without self control" or a "we must save the ones without self control?" Maybe you are saying "I am interested in helping people without self control..." I am unsure what point you are trying to make that pertains to the topic even in the slightest.

Tell me something I don't know.... I know there are plenty of people whom are voyeuristic. I think it is quite misunderstood and wrongfully demonized. Most of them dont hurt a fly other than freak someone out that they watch without permission. someone flashing someone is displaying more of an exhibitionist tendency. Chances are also high that they will be harmless. Me personally if some dood flashed me I would laugh my ass off and be like DAMN THATS ALL YOU GOT!! hehe

I think it would be better if they teamed up with people whom like to be watched so they dont go get themselves in trouble. Maybe if you want to keep them out of trouble you can start a site where people whom like to be watched can find the ones whom like to watch. That would be a big help to them...

Some people like to watch just like some people have a "strange" obsession with being watched. Again to each their own.. Life will work it out how it works out. Again if they are unfit to be married well they will be divorced. I still don't see an issue. I guess you can tell the distraught lady well you sure know how to pick em eh? At least you now know not to pick one like that because it dont work for you. Someone else might love the perv that watches porn all day long. Again to each their own.

Again if you are not calling for censorship what are you calling for?? I do not see your point. I just see that you have a great deal of interest other peoples obsessions with sex and watching sex. Interesting but, whats the point?
 Larissan04
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Posted: 4/12/2009 5:11:14 PM
Kabiosile~

you haven't read any research on the topic so you don't know what you are talking about.
so when you've actually done research on the subject of internet sexual addiction be sure to let me know...perhaps then we can have a responsible discussion of the topic.

here is a link to sex addicts anonymous...you might need it...

http://www.sexaa.org/
 southernlass
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Posted: 4/12/2009 8:39:03 PM

Again if you are not calling for censorship what are you calling for?? I do not see your point. I just see that you have a great deal of interest other peoples obsessions with sex and watching sex. Interesting but, whats the point?


In my opinion, your ideas/ideals are a product of this generation's tolerance for even the most profane. It's much like the seventies when free love and "anything goes" abounded but in many ways it's worse because the temptations are far more insidious and harmful, though they don't initially appear to be.

Unfortunately, it's not wise to attempt to censor anything because we don't want to lose our first ammendment rights as a nation. This means that anything is able to be put out here and kids may and probably will get ahold of it if they surf the internet. This also means that our nation's men and women are put into the position of needing to be wise enough to realize that there are things out here that we can have, that we just might want to take a pass on. It's rather sad that there are so many, many people who don't get this; hence this is why porn addiction, for example, is one of the more serious addictions out here that is destroying people's lives.

Lar is right and has obviously done the research.

 sorot
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Posted: 4/16/2009 12:01:53 AM

Conservatives actually have some money and are the only ones who can afford to pay for porn -- the liberals simply seek out and digest the free stuff. This is why "the study" appears as it does. It's giving an erroneous result.


Porn is almost free anyway and VERY CONSERVATIVE WAY OF RELAXATION. More progressive "methods" should not rely merely on "visualization" but on something in somewhat more substantial of a value.
 sorot
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Posted: 4/16/2009 12:15:23 AM

you really are missing the point here. you obviously have not read any studies on sexual addiction, and are taking a very obvious knee-jerk reaction to the idea that an individual could have some pathology related to sex and sexual materials. let me be clear here... i never said anything about censorship, etc.


Oh no, the "sexual addiction" concept. Brad Pitt ws claimed to have sexual addiction too, which is hilarious. There is nothing wrong if one gets excited by another sex and "persues" his happiness in terms of "abolishing the gap" between "visualization" aka watching porn and "actualization" aka "having sex".

20 yrs ago they were telling that sex is not good for athletits. But when I got my hotty GF around that time, my results went up, instead of going down.

40 years ago oral sex was out of norm, 200 years ago lose of virginity was panishable by death penaulty so ........ progressives do not get addicted to sex since it's readily available.
 Ready4SomethingFun
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Posted: 4/16/2009 9:11:59 AM

progressives do not get addicted to sex since it's readily available.


And I guess cocaine isn't addictive since it's pretty much readily available too, right?
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