Xavery
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/9/2009 7:29:18 PM | I did a search looking for golden boys and I found that 2 in 150 profiles have the new golden profile. I looked at ten pages with 15 profiles on each. This would be 1.5 percent and since these golden profiles popped up at the beginning of my search, I suspect the percent would be lower if I kept on searching. It is kind of insulting to think we are all going to line-up to by the Midas Touch to line another's pockets with cash.
I dont mind paying when I get something other than a graphic for my money.
If POF clearly has promoted itself on the premise that you will never have to pay, then it is blatantly wrong to start charging people. It is unethical. I am not sure it POF promised that we never have to pay though. Is this the case? I supect you could argue it is.
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/9/2009 7:41:32 PM | So basically the majority here are ready to walk? Sure sounds like a promise...or a threat to walk...delete your profile....hold this over the Big Fish's head.
so somehow there has been a broken promise by this guy?... you entered a contractual agreement when you signed up that you would get something for nothing?...and now you are pissed off that he wants to offer a service for a fee?
WOW.... sounds like a marriage/divorce....lol
He/She promised me the world!!!....and then he/she cheated on me and lied and broke my heart!...so I am walking away....divorcing the **stard and taking his/hers new BMW and going to gouge HIM/HER for every penny they have....lol.
Sorry...but I find that it would be more classy to keep the threats to a minimum and the name calling too....and be a bit more respectful in the tone.
There are smart ways to protest...to get your message across... yes, voicing your opinion here.... voting was an option before apparently... and by all means if you feel you must protest by leaving or deleting your profile then do it and send a strong message.... but do you need to be rude and so pitbullish in your comments?
I don't think it is very flattering way to be seen by any Potential Fishmates out there.
Standing up for what you believe is a wrong...or injust to you is one thing...but personal attacks on someone's character and name calling is not a good quality. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/9/2009 8:16:13 PM | My brief two cents. H'e's made millions on the site. His first cheque was $900,000.00 if I recall. At any rate, you know the old saying
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
If you mess around with a good thing, it could go sour. I am going to write on my profile now
"I'm a serious member, but I opt for the free membership."  | |
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Xavery
| Joined: 4/22/2007 Msg: 55 | |
| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/9/2009 9:56:36 PM | ^ I agree.
Methinks some protest too strongly about those of us who are supposedly ready to walk. It kind of makes one wonder.
I am happy to pay for something other than a colour, gold in this case, and the label "serious member."
You know a nickel a day can go far in a developing nation. What I am saying is that I want something of substance for my 6 cents. I am not prepared to line someones pockets for nothing. The gold star/seal is similar to the virtual rose in that it is only a visual. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/9/2009 11:14:40 PM | was wondering how long this was gonna take? so if and only if your serious about finding someone on here you should buy the gold star.......? i become more attractive to the opposite sex and i turn up in more searches. WOW really and all it costs me is 80$ and my pride. well if it comes right down to it and you can only use this site if you are a paying member than i will be leaveing this site all together. a big part of what made this site what it is and its creator rich in the process is the number of hits he gets a hour, day whatever way you want to count it. annoy your users and your hit rate will drop right off. since you can still fully use this site as a free member i wonder what the percentage of gold stars will make up the user base on here in a months time. i started out free and will leave here the same way. if i wont post good pics of me on here ( they hold the rights to published pics you post ), i as for sure damn well wont hand over 80$ a year for something that was always free on here and there are more free dateing sites popping up all the time. hoping to be the next pof. WHO WILL BE THE REPLACEMENT FOR THIS SITE. any ideals | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 12:01:13 AM | Whatever genuine29
somewherenorthisland British Columbia Thanks for sharing your comment ... ummmmm, why am I unable to take your profile seriously?????? Might it be that you yourself, don't even want to be identified as to where you live?
This is a sample of what 60% of the site offers? Between that kind of mentality and out of date pictures and duh I wonder why so many members are equally cynical.
I give up. Paying for a site is NOT going to weed out the above non-serious member any more than meeting someone at a event, or someone that is creating MANY "stay away" flags on my radar.
I honestly don't know what the solution is.
I still think creating a SEPARATE site for those who believe that paying for enhancements/better profile suggesting a "quality" (i.e. serious member) might provide some members with a needed assurance.
Forgive me, I am having a blonde moment. I still do not grasp this thinking/mentality.
And you know what? I am beyond thinking about the profit. I am thinking about how this equates to a better site for everybody.
Maybe I need a better pair of glasses. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 9:23:25 AM | 5,000 chefs use the site every day.
I'm not paying for a gold star but boy oh boy I certainly would pay to find the chefs!
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 9:52:18 AM |
Thanks for sharing your comment ... ummmmm, why am I unable to take your profile seriously?????? Might it be that you yourself, don't even want to be identified as to where you live?
what does that have to do with the subject? why are some of these comments getting personal?
I have noticed a certain POF hostess who has listed where they live...their home city...mind you she has a number of profiles...lol... one listing Winnipeg..Vancouver...an another for somewhere in Alberta....guess she isn't afraid to let other Fishes know where she lives eh?
Perhaps I shouldn't take her comments seriously either.
I would say some POFers are certainly getting a bang for their buck and benefitting from the service. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 10:10:30 AM |
....I am thinking about how this equates to a better site for everybody
And that is precisely the point!
There is nothing on a "for pay site" that compels a user to reply to a mail received, - no difference to POF
There is nothing on a "for pay site" that compels a user to state the truth about themselves, - no difference to POF
There is nothing on a "for pay site" that compels a user to post a recent picture, - no difference to POF
There is nothing on a "for pay site" that guarantees "better" users, contrary to the promotion of that site - no difference to POF
There is nothing on a "for pay site" that guarantees a match between users, - no difference to POF
All dating sites have in common that they operate on the dynamics of singles seeking a partner. Such venture requires to cover operating expenses and make some income for the owners, every one understands that.
A site markets itself promoting a specific value offered, it becomes a trademark of sorts, every one understands that and decides to join or not.
When a businesses product value is changed like in this case from free to for pay the perceived value decreases in the mind of the user and therewith the integrity of the product. That directly reflects upon the integrity of the owners of such venture.
That is why most successful businesses who have established such trademark perception and conquered a large market share spend large amounts of revenue to analyze and research the market and effects of such change and they are extremely careful before they consider to implement such changes that will alter the general perception of what the company and product/services offered stand for. Many such big corporations also spend large amounts of capital to preserve the status they have achieved and try to find different alternatives to generate income. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 11:08:05 AM | if i come across as cynical or withdrawn. it could have something to with the fact that i am a little. how many on here divulge every single detail about themselves openly and honestly. well lets see i LIVE IN PORT HARDY i don't post good quality or recent pics because i choose not to. i have had my image used for the profit of someone else before and don't intend to repeat. i am on here because of my work schedule. when i am home i spend a great deal of my time snowboarding, working on my toys, doing something outside. so if i seem vague to you from the outside that is what i wanted and intended. all one has to do is write and ask. i am very honest and open. ( to those i choose to get to know ) as for the rest of the world i will never meet.
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 12:20:21 PM | I think that someone had said it before, however, it is amazing how fast Markus has deleted the voting page.
One moment it is there, then next moment it is gonesville.
Sounds like he is listening very carefully, to what everyone is saying.
And SHOULD he decide to charge, I wonder how many people he would lose, that have membership accuonts with his site.
If everyone decided to up and leave, then he will not only lose the accounts of people on his site, but, also, he stands to lose the people such as Google from advertising on his site as well, as well as lose all that revenue, that the big advertisers bring to him from his site.
There is too much for him to lose, should he decide to charge the people with membership accounts on his site.
If it is more money that he wants, then bring in more companies, that want to advertise on his site, then charging his membership accounts. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 12:22:33 PM | The funniest thing about how upset everyone is, is that the “gold star” does not actually mean anything. Think about it. How does having the star or gold highlight actually reflect sincerity or integrity in a member’s dating endeavours? It doesn’t. Because anyone can BUY IT. Some of the worst freaks/users/players may have money up the wazoo to spend on dating sites; some of the best catches may choose not to fork over the dough for a meaningless designation.
‘Wow, a gold star! This person is automatically: (insert all desirable qualities here)”. If you’re that simple, maybe internet dating is not for you. In fact, I’m a little scared for you.
For all those worked up over the “it will always be free” pitch, maybe a segment of the site WILL always be free, you just won’t get a gold star…waaaaaaaaaa! I do hope the forums remain free, because that is the best filter system going for identifying crackpots and insincere individuals (and those that cannot spell, lol). Come to think of it, it also used to be an excellent method of getting to know some of the more complex and interesting minds on the site.
Lighten up people. Bad business move or not (likely not), it’s a private site for the owner to do what he wants with. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 1:17:39 PM | DaisyDuke
in all honesty, ive noticed its mostly unattractive ppl with gold stars ....i dunno, maybe gold makes them look better....anyone else find this?
Ouch... not at all ,. but then I don't judge people based on a picture,... we all have less than flattering looks at times... I find that many folks aren't photogenic at all anyhow and look much better in person.
Another note to all,... don't be fooled into thinking all these folks have suddenly jumped on the "gold star" band wagon. I didn't know what it meant when I first saw it so I asked a fellow who had it,... he had no idea and that they just gave it to him for a trial week because he has been a long time member. HEHEH me thinks even though I have been here over 4 years I didn't get one ... must have something to do with not feeling sorry for me and with the number of times one has been "on vacation" Truly will be like fishing now then,... spend lots of money on all the fancy equipment and getting there only to come home hungry and empty handed. HAHAHAHA. Happy fishing all.......(pricey fishing permits/licenses stink.) | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 2:11:47 PM | | I bet there are a lot of dating site entrepeneurs waiting in the wings to pick up the traffic overflow that starts leaving the POF building. Sorry, with all due respect (and you do deserve some for having broke new dating site ground), but Markus, better we think and speak than have you make the biggest mistake of your career. Sigh! | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 2:30:29 PM | "Whenever a man screws up, he usually got the idea from a woman..." I read that somewhere, butt i cannot remember for the life of me where. I was really shocked to find the upgrade option. The funny thing is... Is that you find a lot of the same people on the pay sites as you do on the free ones. And the only thing that helps unatractive people find love is beer!!! | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 3:33:27 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Straight alcohol is best I find!.. go for the rum or the tequila, vodka. Beer takes too long. You got to look at their fugly mug for longer.
Rum get's the clothes off faster...well if you are the old fashion type that find it necessary to remove clothing.
Do POFers have sex? I mean...do they meet here online for OH MY GOSH!!!!!!
I got to change my profile pronto!
Glad to see the discussion has taken a less confrontational tone. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 6:37:30 PM | Now Markus has put in another new web page about this "Serious Membership Gold Button thing.
The following link will take you to the new web page.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/Seriousintro.aspxld Button | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 6:45:07 PM | DTC ^^^ Your link isn't a valid page.
Is this what you meant? http://www.plentyoffish.com/seriousintro.aspx
BTW Admin has upgraded his account to a "Serious Member". | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 7:41:19 PM | | I really don't see what all the fuss is about. We're still getting to use this site for free and as far as I know we can still contact anyone we want as long as we fit in to that person's acceptability parameters. I've always thought that Plenty Of Fish would eventually become a pay site, and if that happens, it would be too bad, but not surprising. If it does happen, I think a lot of people will delete their profiles, myself included, but for now I'm hoping against hope and hanging in there. If Plenty Of Fish, even as a free dating site, has indeed been such a lucrative business venture for Big Fish, then I think it is quite likely that someone will come along and start up another free site, hopefully better still with lessons learned here from mistakes made by Big Fish. I do think some of the po'd people that have posted their displeasure here have been rather over the top, and they should count their blessings. We've all been getting free use of this site, some of us for quite some time, and usually most gravy trains do come to an end at some point in time. I've been wondering how long hoymail can go on as a free service, as well as msn messenger, the free online cribbage I play, etc. I think we're all pretty lucky to have had the free use of POF, along with it's unique forums (albeit censored at times) and POF events features that you just don't find on other dating sites. | |
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 7:52:49 PM | Here is an excerpt from the site link:
Most importantly people who message you, know that you are serious. You'll get far higher quality emails.
So, if I pay my $6.00, people will know I am serious? If I pay $3.00, do I have to be serious only half the time? And if I pay $12.00, I will be doubly serious? People complain that I am too serious now!
Anyway, I sure could use some higher quality emails…..lol.
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| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 7:54:13 PM |
BTW Admin has upgraded his account to a "Serious Member"
ummm???? I'm lost here???? thought it also says he's not single not looking guess htta means he is just serious,
Should we all change our headline tags to "not a serious member, but a cute one" now that's cute guess there is an invite for serious wordplay I'm serious hte member isn't or the member is serious, but I'm not.....
Anyway, I sure could use some higher quality emails…..lol.
so whatcha payin for those??? seriously | |
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Xavery
| Joined: 4/22/2007 Msg: 75 | |
| Isn't BC talking about the Upgrade ? Posted: 3/10/2009 8:03:39 PM | | Golden People - speak up! Where are you? Is there a way to spot golden people in the forums? I see that they turn up yellowed in searches and have the seal beside them if they have viewed you. It is said that some people in the golden age complained about how yellow things looked. Is this relative now? | |
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