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 trubblemakr

Joined: 4/29/2006
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3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/9/2009 10:09:28 AM
people that play the race card are just sad in my opinion.
ill have to agree with^^ on that comment.
this story isnt about race, its about alcoholism and lack of responsibility and it could just as easily have been a black yellow or white person being charged and the response would be exactly the same.
i dont agree with it being termed murder though , as i really highly doubt he intentionally lost his babies in the snow. or that he made an intentional decision to harm them in any way, (at least i hope he didnt)
he is merely a product of a system that allows one to wallow in their excesses rather than to actively curb it and treat them.
the so called chief of the reserve and the other people on the reserve were active enablers of this guys problems, so many people are accomplices to this crime , it would be impossible to charge them all with negligence.
hopefully though they will all learn from the death of these 2 babies and actually take precautions in the future to make sure it will never again happen

it sad that two children can have their lives taken from them for the cost of a 24 of beer and a bottle of whiskey, however . if at least a few alcoholics hear of this story and actively try to change their lifestyle so they arent the next" monster" then something good would have come from all this

alcohol is a horrible "legal" drug that the government benefits and profits from , why else would they sit so idly by as innocent people drop like flies from its abuse.
from the drunk driver, to the drunken abusers to the drunken bonehead that walk out into the snow all of these people are being mass produced and enabled by the very people we are electing into power.
maybe they should be putting a cap on the amount of alcohol one person may buy from a liquor store per 24 hr. they wanted to go after night club owners as being to blame for people getting injured outside their clubs after they are drunk , why shouldnt the law also incriminate liquor store owners as well.
we wont cure alcoholism by handing them out as much booze as they can afford to buy
maybe prohibition is a good idea in this day and age

.funny thing is, they make a drug that makes you reticent and relaxxed illegal yet legalize a drug that makes you irrational,violent, sleezy, and stupid. guess we know what kind of voters they actually want
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/9/2009 11:18:06 AM

people that play the race card are just sad in my opinion.


and so many do it.......


this story isnt about race, its about alcoholism and lack of responsibility and it could just as easily have been a black yellow or white person being charged and the response would be exactly the same.


In my younger days, I drove a taxi in Edmonton, mostly up in Beverly at night. I saw and drove a lot of intoxicated people that poured out of the bars over the years. I'll tell you what I learned besides the fact I didn't want to be like them and quit drinking. Indians come in all colors, shapes and sizes. Before you jump down my throat, I learned natives are natives, white man is white man, black man is black man, etc.etc., and ALL cultures are capable of producing "Drunk Indians". To me "Indian" is a term the white man came up with to distinguish between "Drunk" and "Sober" Natives.
So yes, I've called many a drunk ..."Indian".
I do not use it to SLAM Natives. Natives are good spiritual people, who just like anyone else.........."Just add Alcohol, instant A**hole"


funny thing is, they make a drug that makes you reticent and relaxxed illegal yet legalize a drug that makes you irrational,violent, sleezy, and stupid. guess we know what kind of voters they actually want


Hear ya on this one Trubble! Reminds me of an old saying.......
"Man created Alcohol, God created Marijuana.......Who do you trust?"
Yes, Ive always maintained I'd rather be in a room full of weed smokers then a room full of drinkers. Why you might ask..........The worst fight you might see is over the last Potato Chip
 TAFKAS

Joined: 1/21/2006
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3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/11/2009 7:27:13 PM
funny thing is, they make a drug that makes you reticent and relaxxed illegal yet legalize a drug that makes you irrational,violent, sleezy, and stupid.

Isn't that the truth!
You nailed it right there.
 ~*GEM*~

Joined: 2/10/2009
Msg: 28
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/11/2009 7:41:57 PM
OMG.. I actually agree with something Trubble said. This definitely must be the end times ...

Anyhow,.. this isn't about race.. Its about a lack of responsiblity and lack of regard for the sanctity of life coupled with excessive alcohol abuse.

Remember the Japanese lady that left her two kids in the apartment and went and partied until they died. No difference.. her kids died of starvation/dehydration/neglect.

His died of hypothermia.

What's the common factor? Two people who refused to put their children before their addictions/needs/personal wants. Two different races, two different sexes.

You cannot categorize this and blame it simply on the fact he was native. Before you consider race, consider the fact he was a living, breathing HUMAN being.
 TAFKAS

Joined: 1/21/2006
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3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/11/2009 8:02:50 PM
^^Thanks for posting that; I think that is what was bothering me so much.
Generalizations drive me nuts....there is always more to a story than just the end result.
This end result was a tragedy but even in tragedy there are lessons learned by all involved, even peripherally.
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 2:03:40 PM

What's the common factor? Two people who refused to put their children before their addictions/needs/personal wants. Two different races, two different sexes.


Perfectly said GEM
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 31
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 2:06:37 PM
My hope would be that the 2 parents are not allowed to breed any more!
 OMG!WTF!

Joined: 12/3/2007
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3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 2:34:03 PM
Too late. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I read somewhere that they have already had a replacement kid.
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 33
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 2:52:38 PM
Yes I read that the baby was apprehended by social services in September!Very sad.
 gravelman

Joined: 8/10/2007
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3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 5:31:58 PM
he is a drunk..no one can change that besides himself.... as the old saying goes..only a fool can help himself........you can lead a horse to water, but cann't make him drink...you can take Barney out of the bar..but ya cann't take the bar outta Barney...did hear once where a camel was lead to water and made to drink...think they bricked him,lol. carefully place one brick on each side of testical, when the camel lowers his head to drink..smack the two bricks together...and he takes one extra water
 Friendly widow

Joined: 6/1/2008
Msg: 35
3 yr sentence for allowing children to freeze to death
Posted: 3/16/2009 5:33:53 PM
Sounds about right-IMHO!
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