| | Catholic vs. ProtestantPage 3 of 9 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) | | You make some good points. but Samily and other african countrys do way worst then america. granted we are a very violint group. But our country was formed by it. and What is Sinn Fien even doing know days. and Gery adams has not made a aperince in a wial. Also CIA just took arms back up agianst england. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 8:50:47 AM |
Rather, taking a radical approach to vigorously defending the Catholic faith against the prevelent anti-Catholic sentiment.
As for FBI, they know me, I know them - we stay out of each other's way.
I can see it now.
The FBI cowering taking fright and changing course screaming into the radio "change course, abort mission,.......it's that mad fu%&*ng militant Catholic, the Vatican hitman......avoid, avoid, abandon the operation, every man for himself, he'll zap us with his imaginary friend"
They must be an LSD sale going on in Catholic churches in the US. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 1:34:47 PM | I swear some of you americans do seem to be a bit touched, the ones who post on here.
The papacy is indefensible and Gerry Adams is holidaying in the wilds of Donegal, doing voiceovers for the BBC, if you ever watch the BBC news or hear it on the radio, everytime you hear a northern Irish accent, that'll be Gerry.
The CIA just took up arms against England did they?
Why did they do that? | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 2:46:50 PM | | Ok this thread has gotten way out of hand and off track. First of all it was posted by an American who was trying to ask a question concerning the violence that has existed between the catholic and protestant churches. Yes, the question was not put together well and more than likely presented a statement that seems offensive more than trying to satisfy its author's curiosity. About the 3rd or 4th post "floatsum" asked the question of whether or not this is about America or Ireland. NO ONE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. Then a few posts later "Diablera" took up the assumption that this was about Ireland specifically and from there talked about how America is more violant than Ireland. From then on this has been a forum about bashing Americans and the CIA trying to go to war with England. You want to know about whether or not Americans watch BBC? I'm an american and I do watch BBC in fact I also pick up an edition of Pravda from Russia every now and then and I really like watching DW. I do know that American media distorts the truth concerning world events and that it is our responsability to seek out more view points than our own. Thank you for putting Americans into a general category and assigning them all the same label, it really makes me feel more like everyone else in my country. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 4:02:43 PM | You need to get off the stage there Runnerguy81, before you post it would be handy if you read what was written properly instead of the little bits that pertain to America.
((First of all it was posted by an American who was trying to ask a question concerning the violence that has existed between the catholic and protestant churches.))
Would ya get up outta that, since when do representatives of either church go around mortally wounding each other physically as opposed to emotionally? Haven't you got the word 'Ecumenical' in your vocabulary yet?
The man who started this thread was offensive to Irish people because he wrote a post which was ignorant of facts and based on a belief that Irish rebellion against the British occupation of our country is based solely on religious differences, it's not full stop! | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 4:13:40 PM | | Well then thank you for supporting the first part of my argument | |
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Posted: 5/7/2009 4:19:32 PM | | I decided to ignore the 2nd, 3rd and 4th part of it because you clearly missed out on the irony in the majority of posts including my own. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 2:08:09 AM | RunnerGuy - I thought your post was well written...
But on the Irish forums the same few****heads participate just to insult others... If you read their histories, it wont take you long to find out which ones they are... You can't have a valid discussion here which is why I prefer the American forums "Off Topic"... | |
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Posted: 5/8/2009 6:59:39 AM | I have to agree with w0rk 0f art , the Irish forum is not a place for serious conversation RunnerGuy. Its doesnt matter what the topic is about either.
Catholic vs. Protestant? What does it matter what religion someone is? It doesnt. Most Irish could care less about religion at the end of the day but some will argue just for the sake of it. For a better reflection rent out a Des Bishop dvd sometime, he get abused just for being American, hes different and thats enough reason for some. Religion is just an excuse thats used. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2009 3:04:06 PM | hahahaha yes.... we have seen cricket u see.
im an athiest anyway. stick religion up ur proverbial asses..... fight among urselves while i get drunk and enjoy my short yet fruitful life lol  | |
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Posted: 5/15/2009 3:30:39 PM | | WELL DONE OP. YA GOT WHAT YA WANTED . 3 pages of people arguing over anything but the original topic. OMG ya gotta laugh. I was born , brought up and lived the conflict here in northern ireland and it goes deeper than you even realise. The fact that its so easy to aquire a gun to blow your brains out when it seems too much is real. The fact that the kids grow up without either mother or father due to "the war" is real. And is the fact that over 3000 people died ( DIED) , mothers brothers sons sisters , etc. For what? .... a country that now is in a worse financial state than we are . The southern Irish now travel to northern ireland to buy thier needs. Do the prodestant people say hell no we wont serve you cos we are fighting against you???? NO they dont . They take thier money because at the end of the day , we all need to eat and we all need a roof over our heads. IRONY me thinks . The lesson here is .. when the chips are down we all have the same needs in life. Im a catholic btw , not through choice but through the family i was born it to same as any northern irish person, or indeed anyone in the world. We feel its our duty to instill "our" religion onto our kids when in fact it should be left up to the individual. There ya go OP my view!! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2009 1:40:42 PM | | are you for real do you still belive in some mans ideas ? what is santa bringing you? a new tractor to plough your depths of reality? | |
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Posted: 5/21/2009 1:39:48 PM | I grew up in the 80's and all i can remeber is killings and bombings on the news every few weeks, I think the north has come along way sicne then, and I for one done want to dwell on the past, only focus on a positve future....
Barra, Im really sorry for the horrid things you have had to deal with in life.....heres hoping your children will never experience the pain you had to deal with | |
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Posted: 5/26/2009 3:20:38 PM | But I love little baa lambs skipping round the field looking for their Mammies........... I swear sometimes the group of the little lambs play chase........Oh Mr. D dont silence the lambs!!!! For the love of God dont silence them!!! I need to run around a field barefoot now.
****** Skips out of the forum humming the sound of music******** | |
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Posted: 5/29/2009 9:02:58 AM |
so quit it. Yes master. Thank you master. Will there be anything else master? 
uniquely Irish catholic. that is run from Rome and its Rome that decide the faith of the Irish catholic church, not Ireland so its not our church. We are from Celtic origins and not from Roman origins so why should our faith not also be from the Celtic faith? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2009 5:31:04 PM | I am catholic, I am from Canada; there is only one God, no matter what religion you are affiliated with, right.. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2009 11:12:23 AM | For a long time now I believed that Roman empire stopped fighting with soldiers and started using priests instead.
The definition of Catholic from olden times: A word derived from the Greek katolikos, and meaning 'general' or 'universal' That adds to my belief, would you not be more accurate in defining yourself as a Christian rather than a Catholic? The Catholic church is ruled from Rome after all.
Both profess to believe in the word of Jesus Christ but his word said that you find God in your heart and not in a house of stone, I interpret that to mean not in a church.
It was the Romans that published the first bible and edited it to suit themselves after all. This is the same bible that Catholics are meant to live by. More importantly it was the Romans that killed Jesus Christ. They killed the man they believe was the son of God and now they rule his church, spreading his word? They killed him because of his word.
Do you really think the bible is an accurate reflection of his word? Do you think the Popes words are an accurate reflection of the words of Jesus Christ? The Catholic (not Christian) religion was originally about taking control of people and restoring civil unrest. Before that the Romans were pagans and being a Catholic meant being lion food. Constantine converted to stop a Christian uprising that Rome could not withstand, Spartacus taught Rome that with a properly organised revolution Rome could easily be overthrown from within. So to quell the masses Rome converted to Catholicism and wrote their laws into the bible. Ever since then they have being trying to spread that belief.
The protestant community didnt believe in the Popes word. Protestants didnt want to be ruled by Rome so they broke from Rome and now rule their own church. If your 'a catholic, just not a Roman one' then you are more like a protestant are you not? | |
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Posted: 6/3/2009 8:20:13 PM | The conflict in Ireland is not and never has been about religion. You are about to recieve a short history lesson from Séan MacBride S. C, recipient of the 1983 Nobel and Lenin peace prizes, Tom Barry who was an Irish rebel commandant general and a final note from myself.
``The historical and contemporary existence of the Irish nation has never been in dispute. For centuries, Britain has sought to conquer, dominate and rule Ireland. For centuries, the Irish people have sought to free Ireland from British rule. Britain, a large, powerful and ruthless colonial power, was able to defeat the numerous and sustained efforts of the Irish people to liberate themselves. In the course of the 19th century, as a result of British oppression and famine, the population of Ireland was halved.''
``Ireland's right to sovereignty, independence and unity are inalienable and indefeasible. It is for the Irish people as a whole to determine the future status of Ireland. Neither Britain nor a small minority selected by Britain has any right to partition the ancient island of Ireland, nor to determine its future as a sovereign nation.''
Séan MacBride S. C, recipient of the 1983 Nobel and Lenin peace prizes.
"They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go."
Commandant General Tom Barry
Britain cannot solve the Irish problem because it caused it . A settlement can not be reached until Britain has withdrawn, totally, from Ireland... That is the only way out of continuing bigotry, hatred, anarchy and murder... It is the only path to permanent peace.
Tiocfaidh ar la. (our day will come) | |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 2:46:04 AM | If you would like to quote the commandments you must go back and get the correct translation the commandment is
THOU SHALT NOT MURDER (ie the stipulation that killing by way of the law is ok as the death penalty was sanctioned by Judaism and Christianity for certain crimes) | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 1:18:25 PM | | What difference does it really make since we are all European now anyway? What difference to anyone's life would a 32 county Ireland make? I cant see how it would change mine. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 3:39:35 PM | unfortunately it does matter to some people.
i suspect if you where a victim of the troubles you wouldn't be talking about it on a dating form!! | |
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Posted: 6/6/2009 4:27:54 PM | fair play to you for telling it like it should be told.There are far too many people down here in ROI who are too willing to accept british occupation of ireland. Everyone seems to have either forgotten their history,or want to just forgive and forget what has happened to this country.
I have even heard people say that britain was doing us a favor!! Our population was growing too much was the stupid arguement i was given when i tried to question this dumb theory. People need to make themselves familiar with Sean MacBride, Bit of Padraid Pearse or Parnell would help them understand what we as a nation have gone through.. | |
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Posted: 6/6/2009 7:36:04 PM | DaVincibro
How is quoting historical facts about Irelands past out of context and irrelevent? You're an idiot.
What has Hitler or Ghandi got to do with Ireland?
You're an idiot.
Tom Barry seems to have been on the same page as Michael Collins?
You have no idea what you're talking about, again you're an idiot.
A Re-United Ireland is probably further away now than ever?
It's only a matter of time and to think otherwise makes you... an idiot.
Seriously I can't even read any more of your shite talk. How long do you spend on internet forums trying to be clever?
You're a complete and utter moron who needs to get out more. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2009 6:13:56 PM | Orange or Green. Catholic Protestat. who Cares.
We could go back to Elizibeth the Frist to talk about Northern Ireland. We could go further back to the Dark ages about the roots of Christainity. Better yet we could go to the Brozne age to talk about the Bible. Yes, religion has been courpted by many people over the centuries. Not just Judism, Christianity or Islam. Budahism think Tokyo in the 90's and so on. There is a great book on this Terror in the Mind of God.
Humans are good at justifiy one thing, violence. The thing about religon all religion is that it trys to limit that violience. One can look at Aquanius's City of God which led to the chilvaric code. Or in the Qu'ran where it say's that if you do an atoms weight of evil it will be held against you. Again in the Qu'ran where it says that God hates violence for violence sake. My point it isn't religion that is the problem, it is those that pervert religion for there own evil ends that are the problem. Just for the record, I'm a practicing Catholic from the US. And to my Irish friends indeed we have a problem with violence. Not as bad a projected on to the world stage, but do our best to curb it. | |
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Posted: 6/7/2009 6:30:36 PM | | Roman Catholic is the common term for those that follow the Western Church of the Holy See, i.e the Europe and the Americas. Also known as the Latin Rite. There is also the Byzanitine Rite found in European countries East of Italy. Greece, Lithuaina come to mind. Both are ruled by the Holy Father (the Pope) but each has it own unique rites that have arisen form geographical differences. Check the Cathiecism of the Catholic Church English ed. 1996. Also what we Americans call Episcopalians (Church of England) also call themselves Catholics. Part of the Reason is when Henry the Eighth was not granted his divorce decree for Ann Bolin he delcared himself head of Church and state. Mind you that he had already been given the title "Defender of the Faith" by the Pope. So yes if you follow the Latin rite you are a Roman Catholic. I am a Roman Catholic and proud to say so. Oh the First and Second Vatican councils refer to the Latin Rite as the Roman rite. | |
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