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 IRISHSMILER
Joined: 11/2/2008
Msg: 76
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My family were raped and killed by the ****ing english**** that invaded my country!!!!!What do you expect us to do?War is everywhere.People like you just dont see it in the same way Irish people like me and the rest of the Irish do!Do some looking into Irish history and maybe then you`ll see why Catholics in Ireland kill!!!!We have no choice and it was brought upon the scumbag english that thought they could invade our little island!
 Pedro 1976
Joined: 3/23/2007
Msg: 77
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Posted: 6/9/2009 4:17:46 AM
"my family were raped and killed by the ****ing english**** that invaded my country..........do some looking into Irish history and maybe then you'll see why Catholics in Ireland kill"

^^^^^^you are a piece of shite! so you criticise the English? well american natives or indians were killed by american soldiers, colonists, etc (mainly from Ireland).

an american native right now would say "my family were killed or almost wiped out by the **** Irish that came to America"

so you dumbass stop criticising the English when your forefathers were killers as well!
 Godluvsatryer
Joined: 5/18/2009
Msg: 78
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Posted: 6/9/2009 7:48:46 AM
DaVincibro What took you so long to reply? were you waiting so people would think you actually have a life aswell as trying being clever on internet forums? You crack me up man I know my history so I don't need any tutoring from a low life idiot like you. Do you really think anyone cares about what you have to say? are you delusional?

You're still an idiot and a complete and utter moron. Now go back to your keyboard and try to be clever again.
 Pedro 1976
Joined: 3/23/2007
Msg: 79
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Posted: 6/9/2009 11:51:56 AM
bigmickey,

i did not say that Ireland colonised North America, and it does not have anything to do with what i say.

what i say is that a very high amount of americans have Irish blood running through their veins because of the millions of Irish who left Ireland and moved to America above all in the 19th century. it is a fact, and lots of Yank soldiers during the 19th century were really Irish. those soldiers killed many a native American/indians.

my fair point is that if you slag off the English accusing them of killers, you should slag off yourself as well. i am not defending England at all, only that if you accuse someone you should as we say in Spain "clean your own house before cleaning your neighbour's"
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 80
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Posted: 6/9/2009 2:49:40 PM
'History is written by the victors'


That Victor guy must have some imagination.

I think this thread has taken a turn down the tit for tat route........lets not all forget this is a dating site and you guys should be concentrating on the tit and twat.
 Godluvsatryer
Joined: 5/18/2009
Msg: 81
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Posted: 6/9/2009 3:27:02 PM
tit and twat?? now that's what I'm talking about... you offering malasam?? :laughing: You're dead right in what you're saying but this thread is bound to be controversial. It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye
 hungry_joe
Joined: 6/24/2006
Msg: 82
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Posted: 6/9/2009 4:23:34 PM
And when they loose an eye it becomes hillarous. Malasam, too funny both here and your profile. So we can agree to be friends, have a few drinks, and tell loads of lies? Be of good cheer everyone.
 saemurph
Joined: 2/27/2008
Msg: 83
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Posted: 6/9/2009 6:20:35 PM
Way too funny Sam... :-)

Although in my house it's... all fun and games till there is a crying match and it's not going to be me!
 Pedro 1976
Joined: 3/23/2007
Msg: 84
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Posted: 6/10/2009 12:45:44 PM
bigmickey,

what i know makes me sure to say that both the English and the Irish have killed.

you abuse on saying that the English invaded Ireland and killed people, yet you seem to forget what the Irish and Yanks with Irish blood did in the 19th century with native Americans.

oh and let's not talk of those Irish who killed the Spaniards who survived and reached Ireland when the Spanish Armada was defeated in 1588 by the English, you know, the storm damaged most ships and there were plenty of Spaniards who reached the Irish shoreline. yeah! Irish Catholics killing Spanish Catholics, that says a lot of you dear Ireland!
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 85
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Posted: 6/10/2009 2:05:35 PM
Hey Pedro 1976 take a chill pill dude. Irish people have killed people from all sorts of nations, we don't discriminate - neither does any killer no matter where their from. People kill people, where are you from Pedro 1976? Any killers there? Killing has lots to do with religion to the extent that its easy to blame religion for any murder.
We have killed Spanish, English, French, German, Italian, American, Red Indian and a whole lot more Irish people. If aliens landed we would probably kill them too. Its a human thing so why blame nationality or religion? That's like saying 'Its not fair.' Life aint fair Pedro 1976, build a bridge - get over it or jump of it!
*Hows that about saying something of dear Ireland?* Us Irish are evil and we are all going to hell blab blab blab its all our fault
 hungry_joe
Joined: 6/24/2006
Msg: 86
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Posted: 6/10/2009 2:24:18 PM
First the Vatican as a state within a state. Not really it is it's own state. Reduced significantly since Itally unified under Gesippie Gariabaldi.

Seccondly as I stated earlier, it isn't religion that causes people to kill, it is those that twist religion to convience others to kill. I've seen this first hand first with the Trade towers, then later with my tours against the Islamists. Humans are really good at one thing killing. Religion is a way for us to control are more animalistic instincts and appeal to our reason.

I still haven't heard one thing why either religion Catholism, or Reform Christianity is better. Reason, because in the final anyalis neither is superior. Both see Jesus, as part of a trinarian God that came appeared, in human form to cleanse us of orginal sin. It humors me when Protestants bash Catholism as non or less then Christian, because they all came from the mother church. They just modified some of the sacrements, or emphamised the Litergy, over the Eucharst and so on.

My American understanding of the Northern Ireland issue comes from the Calvianist Scottish, to help colonise, Ireland to prevent a Catholic uprising, that might lead to an overthrow of the Tutor dynansity. Nothing but problems ever since. Those that are loyal to the English crown and those that wish to see an independent state. However, I thought it was much better in Belfast and Ulster, since the Good Friday accords of the 1990's am I mistaken? Come on people it isn't 1916, relax and listen to each other and I think all will be better. Please excuse the misspellings in this post.
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 87
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Posted: 6/10/2009 3:58:48 PM

it seems to me you would say anything at all to defend the English occupation of this country but the truth is you haven't a clue about the history here so you should butt out instead of telling lies

Let go of the hate, smoke a dube or take some vallies or whatever. The strong rule the weak, thats the way it is and the way its always being, again it has nothing to do with nationality or politics.
Humans are hunters, killers, predators. Its what we do so why blame anything other than human nature?
Sometimes in history the Irish were slaves and sometimes we were slavers, two sides to ever coin but at the end of the day we are people, just people and as such we behave as people. Trying to deny the Irish ever did another nation wrong is the same as trying to deny we are people. We are what we are.
 Pedro 1976
Joined: 3/23/2007
Msg: 88
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Posted: 6/11/2009 8:34:01 AM
bigmickey,

it is you who must do some research. whilst i agree that some Spaniard was helped (there is a famous tale of just one) most Spaniards were killed when reaching the Irish shoreline.

here are some examples which i found on historical sources:

24 Spaniards were hung in the Tralee Bay after surrending.

80 debilitated and exausted Spaniards were executed by an Scottish mercenary called McLaughlan in the Mayo County.

72 Spaniards executed in Galway.

560 Spaniards got massacred after surrending in Donegal.

and there were more slaughters in Mutton and Clare
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 89
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Posted: 6/13/2009 6:03:39 AM
Big Mickey : Knowing one's country's history and been able to retell it isn't hateful but that's not what your doing. What your doing is slamming England with comments like
I doubt the English are proud of their own record of being inhumane and I'm sure they'd readily admit that they've been responsible for a lot of horrific stuff in the past as a nation.
That's where you demonstrate your hatred, there was a female member on here not so long ago that talked just like you, full of hate.
The English are not bad people for the most part and I would imagine that they, like all other people in every country in the world, don't focus on the bad their ancestors have done but rather their achievements. If you feel like getting some English people to join this discussion to prove that they are indeed willing to readily admit that they've been responsible for a lot of horrific stuff in the past as a nation then please do so but until then I'll maintain my opinion that you are a racist and a namecaller as you put it and live in a fantasy world.
Pedro is right in what he says about both the native Americans and the Spaniards being killed by Irish people. His points are valid and true and unlike you he is not trying to twist what other people are saying. The same female member used that tactic also. She bored me to the extent that I would not reply to any of her comments and as of now Im adapting that attitude with you.
No nation has a perfect past. People of all nations have committed crimes against people of other nations. Thats life, it doesn't mean that all people are bad. Religion is used as an excuse all through history. Catholics have killed Protestants and vica versa. Both are branches of the same religion yet religion is not the cause, hatred is the real cause, that and weak minded people who are easily influenced.
Try making love not war and there would be a lot less murders.
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 90
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Posted: 6/13/2009 6:29:27 AM

...Big Mickey...don't do it...just don't..chuckle...
TROLL run for cover
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 91
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Posted: 6/13/2009 7:20:58 AM
****Holds hand up*****
Yup its me again,


Its me, just so the rest of you all know, Im the female he speaks of.
Yup full of hate I am, eat it for my breakfast and lunch and for my dinner I have boiled kittens with a side of puppy paws.
 hungry_joe
Joined: 6/24/2006
Msg: 92
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Posted: 6/13/2009 7:30:53 AM
malasam funny.

As being a American (of Irish decent) I would like to know more about the real problem on your island. I ask again about the Good Friday Accords. Seriously I thought things were better now.
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 93
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Posted: 6/13/2009 7:58:12 AM
Sorry malasam but not everything is about you, I was referring to si-denada who later opened a new profile under the user name of happy(somethingorother). Remember her and her little possie that liked to slam everything and everyone that is foreign? She posted in a very similar manner to Big Mickey.
gadgetdoc: Things are a lot better now. Some people just like to live in the past but most of us Irish have moved on.
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 94
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Posted: 6/13/2009 8:13:54 AM
Eeeeehhh yes everything is about me, and we have established that in a previous post, something about a guy looking at his reflection or something , but lets just talk about me.


Now this is all new to me that si-denada and happy ( also know as eggs and bacon or something) are the one person, are you sure? Hhhmmmm ****puts detective hat on and picks up a magnafying glass)



Aaaaahhhhhhhh please please please dont call yourself and American of Irish decent!!!! It bugs me when people do that, why do americans hold an Irish decent so highly? I think if you were to correctly address yourself it would be of Irish, Latvian, Russian, Itialan, Spanish and Zulu mixed decent, or something along those lines.........
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 95
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Posted: 6/13/2009 8:42:57 AM

Now this is all new to me
unlikely as you were one of that possie.

Aaaaahhhhhhhh please please please dont call yourself and American of Irish decent!!!! It bugs me when people do that, why do americans hold an Irish decent so highly?

Do you have reason as to why people should not be proud to be of Irish decent? I get it they are not pure blood then they are second class, glad we got that cleared up!
Pay no heed to her gadgetdoc, thankfully malasams opinions are not shared by all of us Irish and we all not all bugged by foreigners claiming that their ancestors came from Ireland .
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 96
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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:03:25 AM
Thats right..... you go ahead an qoute what I say out of context......... just bite on one sentence and rip it to shreads without having the intelegence to process the whole statment.


Although just for your benifit maybe i should have written: why do americans hold an Irish decent so highly ABOVE ALL OTHER ANCESTORS?


Oh and as for being 'part of that possie, that is just rubish!! Total utter bollox! Just because I disagree with you on points and share the same views as other people doesnt mean i am part of a possie.
 floatsum
Joined: 12/4/2008
Msg: 97
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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:21:11 AM

why do americans hold an Irish decent so highly ABOVE ALL OTHER ANCESTORS?

What you said previously was very different to that and what makes you think that is true anyway? On what do you base that opinion? Do you have statistics that prove Americans hold Irish ancestry higher than all others?
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 98
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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:42:13 AM
What I said in my previous post was EXACTLY that....the whole Zulu comment highlighted it, Its not my fault you were born devoid of humour and sarcasim.

You just come on here and pick on people and their posts for the sake of being a total prick, I will no longer reply to any of your posts and you are incapable of seeing anything from anybody elses point of view.


I shall return now to my jolly ( or seen by some as hateful) state

****Skips out of the room***
 hungry_joe
Joined: 6/24/2006
Msg: 99
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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:59:08 AM
Aaaaahhhhhhhh please please please dont call yourself and American of Irish decent!!!! It bugs me when people do that, why do americans hold an Irish decent so highly? I think if you were to correctly address yourself it would be of Irish, Latvian, Russian, Itialan, Spanish and Zulu mixed decent, or something along those lines.........

Okay you're right a Heniz 57 bottle. Okay I have a Irish Surname. Still think you're funny
 MalaSam
Joined: 9/8/2008
Msg: 100
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Posted: 6/13/2009 10:02:58 AM
Cheers, but Ill have you know that I am a racist,, and Im not allowed to be nice to you......... thems is the rules my boy.


So, are you really a Zulu too?
As for Heniz 57....when I lived in the states it was so hard to find a can of beans, oh and tayto.
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