| | Catholic vs. ProtestantPage 7 of 9 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) | Care to answer the questions? If you don't want to argue your religious delusion then keep it to your self instead of parading your half baked ignorant ideas.
If all this came from some entity maybe you can answer some questions:
How big was/is the thing in terms of miles or volume?
How complex was/is it?
Does/did it have a willy?
If it did why did it have one?
Was it mechanical, artificial or biological?
Is it still alive now and how old is it?
Where does it live and what does it eat?
Who or what invented it?
Why could a thing that invented billions of planets, cells, microbes, chemical reactions, millions of varying species not learn how to master the art of handwriting?
If the Roman Cathiolic church is so great then what led to all the splinter groups? Why have the splinter groups not rejoined Herr Ratzingers gang and why did he claim that you're not a real Church? | |
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Posted: 2/9/2010 9:37:23 PM | Oh boy...just what we need...a militant religious fanatic who thinks that they are known by the FBI. SURLEY YOU JEST!!!!  | |
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Posted: 2/27/2010 7:23:04 PM |
Diablera Bruja said: Firstly the conflict is in Northern Ireland ;not the whole Island.Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the republic is a separate state.Many have aspirations of joining the two, but at the moment the situation, is they are separate states.Although being joined, the situation has affected us,especially making guns and crime more prevalent.Violence serves only one master, death.
The situation up North is about power and control and who has it, not religion.The protestants were in power and abused that power to subjugate their Catholic neighbors.The Catholic minority struck back , by terrorist tactics.Like all original good causes, it goes belly up when violence is introduced.These people had no rights and had reason to protest.
Christianity abhors violence yet All Christian countries go to war.Women are repressed in all religions and were in Christianity.History is not kind to any faith, as men forget Gods rules and implement their own for power or gain.Humans are a selfish species, mostly out for personal gain and will use religion or anything else to gain power.
America s one of the most violent/rapacious countries in the world, look closer to home my friend.
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Good post...
Yes, there IS violence in the USA, but, there is violence *everywhere*...and just because all you hear in the news i snegative, please remember that there ARE good things over here (there i svery little crime & violence in the mountains where I live)...
You know, I don't know of a single Irish-American that does not want the divisions & troubles in Ireland (on many different levels) to end...It breaks our hearts because many of us come from BOTH the green & oragnge zones, and every civil war on earth has been decidedly UNcivil...and we over here, the sons & daughters of Ireland really DO wish it would all end...
I'll repeat this...
Over here, the sons & daughters of Ireland really DO wish it would all end...
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Posted: 3/4/2010 6:07:36 PM | just to correct you NOFEAR, the conflict in Ireland has never been a religious conflict, the IRA are not a religious organisation, the founder of Irish Republicanism was in fact a protestant named Theobald Wlfe Tone.
the war in Ireland has always only ever been about one thing and that was the colonisation of Ireland by the foriegn british powers, and the conflict in the last 40 years or so has been about the continued presence of british soldiers and british interference in the north eastern 6 counties of Ireland, once again just so you're clear on it, the war in Ireland was never ever a religious war that was a lie peddaled by the british media and used as a smokescreen to the injustice of the continued occupation of the north of Ireland by the british government and army. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2010 6:20:13 PM | correction there diablera,
the war in Ireland was not a power struggle, you and most others on this site seem to be unaware of the facts, the IRA existed for one reason, to free Ireland from illegal british occupation, the more recent conflict was about removing the unjust partition of Irelands north eastern 6 counties which the brits enforced in 1921 under threat of war, the conflict in Ireland has only ever been about ridding Ireland of foriegn interference, and removing partition so Ireland could be a re-united country again as it has always been throughout history.
also alot of people from the USA seem to think it was Irish against Irish for religious reasons this was never the case, in the early 1600's the british government removed Irish farmers and landowners from their land in the north east of Ireland, they then offered this land free to any british person who wanted, the brits planned to displace the indigineous Irish in the hopes that the british people coming to Ireland would eventually become a majority and as such destroy Irish culture and traditions, this period was called the "Irish plantations" google it.
the ancestors of these british planters to Ireland although born and raised in Ireland consider themselves to be british not Irish and as such want the north eastern 6 counties of Ireland to be part of the UK, obviouslly this will never be acceptable to any patriotic Irish man and as a result conflict arose, there will never be peace in Ireland untill the british government disengage from Irish affairs...sad but true. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2010 9:20:44 PM | | To upstairs: Most Americans are ignorant in the subject of IRA... | |
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Posted: 3/15/2010 6:11:18 PM | | look at the mess the south is in now? do we really want to be a part of that? religion does not and never did come in 2 any of the conflict here, i ave seen a priest threatened to get of the bus or he will be burned in it before they set it on fire in frount of a church hall, he was only trying to stop them, the way people carry on is more bout its all they know up here and fink its the way they should be, i ave seen decent people who normally would do no harm then out watching riots, all they are doing is fuelling the fire cos then the people fink they ave the support, regards to the `british` and `police` if u do no harm wot ave u got to fear or against them??? it`s only people who don`t abide by the law who ave reason to be against them and for that case they should be there! live and let live, go do a days work, go home ave ur dinner, watch tv, ave a drink in ur local, if some local organisation is aveing a parade up the street then turn u`r tv up a little louder it`ll be past in 10mins, i know cos had to do it many times. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2010 8:34:58 AM | why did you call this post catholic vs protestant ?
Thats just " flamebait"
we've had enough of that crap i think. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2010 4:10:25 PM | how about the Middle East where most profess a love of at least one religion that teaches of "peace"?
whether Islam, Christian, or Judaism
yet the killing , fighting, bloodshed, continues..
as it does in India between 'peace-loving' Muslims & Hindus, etc. ,etc | |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 11:11:04 PM | Britain, England...whatever...has caused much harm. Her powers are now diminished.
Ireland is a gem...a country of poets, realists, and a country that has sent her best and most artistic, most splendid, most musical...and in the long run...a country that has never lost what has defined her beauty and magic..a mystical nation interrupted by life and history.. I have benefitted here in Canada from my longest friend....an Irishwoman...who never lost the tartness and prose of a living narrative. I only wish that the battle would end and that Ireland would again dance free as I do when I hear Irish music. At least...my feet cannot be still and my spirit lifts. Cheers to Ireland. And may Peace be her next visitor. | |
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Posted: 11/19/2010 4:19:05 PM | One of these is Catholic, one is Protestant. You guess which is which...
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Posted: 1/9/2011 8:37:38 AM | | Frankly doesn't Ireland have larger issues to worry about outside of Sectarianism? I mean the Republic of Ireland has had its economy bailed out by Germany. You have the rise of University costs, and the cost of living has increased. So my current response who cares, the Irish need to pull together and face the challenges ahead of them with re-guard to religious affiliation. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2011 3:24:29 PM | i almost couldn't believe my eyes when i saw this title in a forum here.
I came here to the Ireland Forum jones-ing for some Irish news, humor, attitude because this past year I moved away from the big Irish family to a spot in America where you can't even find Guiness in a bottle.
I read the first page and was just cringing. the utter gall of another ignorant american putting his worthless two cents in on a subject he OBVIOUSLY knows nothing about makes me sick.
we got alot of those over here in the states. we aren't very well educated at all, 79% of Americans can't name a chief justice of our supreme court, can't name their representatives in congress and have no clue how we have mucked up and interfered in other countries since 1801 -yeah OP you tell me why the marine "hymn" says " from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli... WHY???? heck, we sent Marines over to Africa a scant 12 years after we became a nation.... - our arrogance and aggression has not missed one continent for over 200 years... (we as a nation are what? 16th or 17th down on the list of countries that sends it's youths to college???? Says alot about the priority of education in America, yeah it does.) Is it any wonder some dolt shows up here and expounds on foreign issues of which we are even more in the dark about. I personally have to watch BBC news on our public broadcasting station in order to find out what the heck is going on outside our shores, we never hear much at all about what is going on over seas. Our three major national news networks (no, I will not dignify Fox with dispensing news) are more interested in broadcasting Lindsey Lohan's latest escapade and who got the highest score on Dancing with the Stars, I kid you not, there are whole days and days that go by without one mention of international news. I also used to be able to watch RTV when I lived in Chicago ( no longer so, i am living in a very rural area now and it is only in large metro areas that Americans can get RTV on a weekly basis).....so let me personally apologize for his ignorant post about Protestant vs Catholic in Ireland.
I have relatives all over Ireland, both north and south and to dredge up this Catholic vs Protestant issue shows a lack of respect for the entire island. It has always been based on economic oppression, the haves vs the have nots. My relatives in the north had to deal with severe economic hardship, couldn't get hired, couldn't have the same rights as those in power. In the south it was pretty much the same thing, all exacerbated by Britain and troops brutally trying to eradicate the heritage, customs and language. Here in the states, I was being monitored by the FBI because I sent a few punt over now and then and a box of clothes a couple times of year to the relatives, they actually thought I was monitarily supporting the IRA!!!!!!!!
So please forgive us ugly ignorant americans for horning in here, having the gall to post about issues they obviously don't have a clue about. It makes me so furious. I abhor America's record on foreign relations from yeah Tripoli to Mexico to Guam to Chile to Korea to Vietnam to Panama, to Nicaragua to Puerto Rico to the Dominian Republic to Laos to Indonesia to Phillipines to Guatamala to Oman to Lebanon to Angola to Iran, Iraq and even Wounded Knee where we still couldn't let the real Americans live with dignity....to have any American show up here and spout opinions on another country's board after our dismal history of brutality and interference is just wrong wrong wrong. just my humble opinionated opinion. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2011 1:31:07 PM | | Please stop this. I was born and raised in the US (still live here) but I have been hearing about this conflict practically all my life. Please just stop. We are all Christians and that should be enough to know better than to act like this! | |
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Posted: 7/12/2011 10:53:35 AM | If people can be bothered to do some research of their own on the internet on sites like google and youtube then they will find out that Christianity is merely a rehash of earlier pagan religions. Over the past few thousand years of history there have been many saviour messiahs - all mythical. Zeus, Horus, Orisis to name but a few.
There are also certain mistakes in Christianity that prove it is false. For example the Nazereth never existed, it is purely an invention of Christianity, it cannot be found on any map and no ruins of it have ever been found. There was also no census in 1AD and when the Romans did have censuses no one was ever required to return to the town of their birth. Following a star would also send you around in circles.
I used to be a Christian until I started to look at evidence which debunks christianity. I thought I would be able to debunk it and it would strengthen my faith but it proved to me that christianity is merely a man made religion along with all the other religions. I still believe in God and hope there is more to this world that what we see around us. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2011 5:40:45 PM | I am not Irish, I had a great grandmother who was Irish Catholic so have learnt about the troubles, without experiencing them, so I dont know if what ive learnt is correct.
I have learnt that Ireland had settlers who took the lands off the Irish, who at the time were mostly Catholic and this was called the plantation of Ulster, anyway it caused mayhem and broke the counties up where 6 counties are British and then there is the Republic of Ireland.
This rule has been for the last 800, years and that the easter rising was about rights, and violence, also about democratic votes as when there was a vote on a united Ireland the vote returned I think a majority vote but it was ignored, then there was the Easter rising and its had a divide ever since, that B specials were brought in but people complained of brute force against Catholics so it made the situation worse.
Ive been told that this has not been about religion but a country divide and some wish for NI to remain British and lots of Republicans wish for a United Ireland.
SF is gaining support to, and some worry about it, as Ive heard Republicans feel a baised against RUC/UV and that.
Anyway could go on but Thats mostly what Ive heard | |
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Posted: 7/18/2011 6:12:32 PM | Protestant versus Catholic ! For me it is a no brainer. Who founded the Catholic Church? It was Jesus himself. He chose twelve Apostles and one of them betrayed Him. As they say there is a rotten apple in every dozen. Jesus named Peter as the Catholic Church Leader, the first Pope. Who started the protestant church? Was it not Martin Luther? Then came King Henry VIII who for his own selfish agenda founded The Church of England. He was as barbaric as al queda. He was to the Catholics as Hitler was to the Jews. He was a gluttonous gout ridden murderous monster who wanted absolute power and unfortunately he accomplished that as head of Church and State. So today the Head of the Catholic Church is St Peter`s successor Pope Benedict and the head of the church of England is King Henry VIII successor The Queen of England and it will soon be Charles. Which side are you on? Its not so complicated. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:42:46 PM | Why you having a go about Henry, He was a good man, He wanted a divorce and he could not get one, so that is why he changed the religion.
Unfortunately We then got Bloody Mary there after, do you know she prosecuted more people for there religion than anybody else, whereas Elizabeth a protestant had the least amount.
Yes Martin Luther started, it was due to I think it being written in Latin and other things I think like confession and things,
I think they should scrap Guy folks ,a glorifying death of him, mind you he did try to blow up the houses of p...takers | |
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Posted: 7/30/2011 11:36:15 PM | | Don't blame this American girl for yur problems. Human are human. Wake up and smell the roses. MAN and all men have been fighting wars since the cave mans days. You and yur fancy words, education, but not wise in the least bit. Do yur homework. GROW UP. | |
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Posted: 7/31/2011 11:56:00 AM | It astonishes me that people think the conflict and especially the continuing problems in Northern Ireland are about religion  | |
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Posted: 7/31/2011 12:26:47 PM | All this Catholic Protestant stuff is in the past. We all hate Muslims now.
P.S The I.R.A are a great bunch of lads
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