| | Catholic vs. ProtestantPage 9 of 9 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) | Thanks to BordorFox for bringing some facts to this confusion. I became interested in Ireland after responding to one bombing by writing a letter to the editor of a major newspaper in Ireland. To my surprise I received an answer by mail from an individual who kindly shared some facts about the political background of this conflict. I also had believed it was religious differences that caused it, but religion is only an overlay. The real issue is just as BordorFox said - harsh English imperialist control.
But here's the thing I want to point out to my fellow countryman, the OP. We ought to be the first to sympathize with the Irish people, because we ourselves were once in EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION AS THEY ARE TODAY. Remember guys named Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and those dudes? And remember the thing they had such a problem with? It was ARROGANT ENGLISH DOMINATION. Do you know the difference between the USA & Ireland? The English had longer supply lines (all the way across the Atlantic) to war against us, whereas they only had to go across the Irish Sea to get to Ireland. That's why we defeated the British - geography was on our side.
The bottom line is this - if the Northern Irish people are really and truly "terrorists," then so were Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and every American Patriot who fought for American freedom from British domination. You can't have one standard for ourselves, but a different standard for the people of Ireland. It doesn't work that way.
Once I'd learned a bit about Ireland, I began to wonder why I'd never known any of this before, so I went and got my old college Western Civilization textbook & found out what it had to say about it. The only mention was from the British point of view, and it was a brief mention of "the Irish problem." In behalf of my fellow countryman, the OP, I'd like to plead - it's not his fault. It's part of the brainwashing we get in public schools all the way up through college - our forefathers were "patriots," but the Irish are "terrorists" - and all for doing the very same things.
I hope I have not stirred the pot here, because my intention was the opposite - to supply a little correct information in hopes of settling down any hysteria. Thanks for listening to me "rant." :) | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 11/23/2011 2:04:28 PM | The Europeans who invaded North America were terrorists according to the way the term is used by their descendants. Ask any of the native tribes who were there long before hordes of disgruntled, greedy or just plain starving Europeans arrived. The American War of Independence was an argument over who got to slaughter them, steal all they owned and asset strip their land.
It's rather ironic to be spouting about not having the one standard for everybody when the US calls brown people terrorists for doing exactly what they and the Israeli army do on a regular basis.
If brown people take an Israeli soldier it's kidnapping by terrorists.
When the US takes a brown person, drugs him, transports him in a plane, locks him up illegally, and tortures him then it suddenly becomes "extraordinary rendition".
If a roadside bomb is terrorism then dropping 10,000 times the amount of explosive on people from a 20 million dollar aeroplane is 10,000 times the terrorism. Terrorists kill civilians: Americans cause "collateral damage" which is not much use to the countless civilians killed, maimed or still suffering in places like Vietnam and Cambodia.
The conflict in Ireland and it's long tortured history are a direct product of religion right up to today. It's still going on and the British are gone. It's because of the religious poison the Vatican pollutes the country with that I, and the taxpayers (WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE KIP) are paying for child rape and torture committed by it's nuns, priests and lower orders. That's bad enough without having to listen to a bunch of Septic Tank loo laa's talking through their ignorant buttonholes. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 11/25/2011 10:31:02 AM | | My fathers family is Marshalls, and my mothers family is Moores. We are protestant. They say we came from Ireland. Just curious, any thoughts on this from true Irish people> Are them Irish names? Thanks. | |
|
| |
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 12/1/2011 7:21:25 AM | I was raised catholic and turn away from my religion because it gave me no comfort what so ever. as for the killing thing look at the part in the bible where it says turn the other cheek yet you read on and JC goes to temple and there's a market in the court yard of it he loses it and beats the people he didn't turn the other cheek. As for killing others the way I look at it, if that situation ever happened to me it's me or them and Id rather it be them.
When I was being picked on for my sexuallity or the way I looked JC or God weren't there to help I had to face them people on my own. In my opinion religion has no place in modern society. I cause's not but trouble and problems. As long as you feel that you have lived a morally god life then you don't need a religion its all about how you feel about yourself. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 12/1/2011 7:21:34 AM | I was raised catholic and turn away from my religion because it gave me no comfort what so ever. as for the killing thing look at the part in the bible where it says turn the other cheek yet you read on and JC goes to temple and there's a market in the court yard of it he loses it and beats the people he didn't turn the other cheek. As for killing others the way I look at it, if that situation ever happened to me it's me or them and Id rather it be them.
When I was being picked on for my sexuallity or the way I looked JC or God weren't there to help I had to face them people on my own. In my opinion religion has no place in modern society. I cause's not but trouble and problems. As long as you feel that you have lived a morally god life then you don't need a religion its all about how you feel about yourself. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 12/9/2011 8:12:05 AM | | By the way all christians should read this website: http://www.libchrist.com it explains that the word 'fornication' actually means prostituition only, not all sex outside marriage as many pastors claim. The word comes from the Greek word fornix meaning arches where prostitutes used to ply their trade. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 12/30/2011 7:32:38 AM | | as a man from belfast in northern ireland i say and have always said live and let live and if more people would back me up on that we would be ok but too many people are brain washed as young child to hate people different than them for me the troubles in northern ireland have not been about religon for many years as the ones causeing the trouble have probly never seen inside a chruch or chapel in their lives life is about free will and some people preferr to act like morons northern ireland unfortunatly has more off these than anywere else on the planet(when you compare amount off people in country and amount off twats) except for maybe america and thats when you have issues. on the catholic vs protestant score i think both are very silly things to beleive in.however again live and let live tho when you stop preists from having wife and kids so you can save the church a bit off money causing inturn countless counts off child abuse you only have yourself to blame really thats just one point which for me proves religon as a whole is a pile off rubbish( aimed at controlling the population and making them think the way you want them to think ) stuffed down peoples necks for generations and some people are brainwashed by it others are not | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 2/11/2012 5:44:12 PM | | we are who we are in this age x if you wish to believe u do if u dont then dont x x each individual however they are brought up has there beliefs x we dont comment on jewishism, muslim, islamic who are we to judge no better than anyone else | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 2/15/2012 12:47:37 PM | | I really can't be bothered reading all the replies but what the hell has it got to do with priests and ministers? It's about history, the past and people insisting on living in it when the rest of us moved on a long time ago. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 3/6/2012 4:44:40 AM | | Can anyone tell me (in a 10000 words or less, short attention span) the differences in belief between Catholics and Protestant? | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 3/6/2012 4:27:00 PM | Even though I do not attend church or practice religion I still know the difference as it was drummed into us at an early age at school
A group of people began to protest against some of the wrong things they believed the Catholic Church was doing and teaching. These protesters became separated from the Catholic Church and formed their own Church which was more inline with what they believed was the truth.
The main issue is Catholics have believed and done some things differently to what Protestants believe the Bible has instructed. Protestants believe this is a result of Catholics believing what certain individuals and traditions have said, rather than what God has said through the Bible. The problem of traditions becoming more important than God's truth is something all religions have at some time been guilty of, including Protestants. The Catholic Church has admitted to some of the errors it has been guilty of in the past, and has changed. But there are still some beliefs and practices that Protestants would say are against what the Bible teaches.
I.e The virgin Mary. The bible actually says very little about her
So everything Catholics say about Mary that is not in the Bible has been made up by people, and are based on tradition rather than the truth revealed to us God's Word. Nowhere does the Bible say Mary was greater than any other Christian, she was just a human like all of us. The Bible does not say people should worship Mary or pray to Mary. The Bible does not say Mary prays for us.
 | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 3/10/2012 4:40:23 PM | Summerbreeze its simple
Protestants believe in the same Jewish mumbo jumbo as Roman Catholics except for Mary. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 3/10/2012 4:48:47 PM | Guittarpicker
The Moores came from Morocco via southern Spain
The Marshalls came from the Marshall Islands before emigrating to Texas where they became US Marshalls. Simple.
Marshall is common in Scotland my sister was married to one. The Moores are common in North Ireland.
You are likely a Scots Irish who migrated to American colonies rather than an a Irish American who emigrated to USA | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 3/11/2012 4:09:28 AM | | This is because people are using religion as an excuse to kill. Im not hugely religious myself but I understand the origions of religion and why it came about. The core of most religions is simple and based on spirituality. Nothing to do with murder. If it wasnt for the excuse of religion it would be some other excuse or controversal subject to fight over. We have a long way to go unfortunatley. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 6/10/2012 8:47:57 PM | | Um,Bryanvall, European males are in charge and have been in charge since civilization and there has never been or ever will be peace on earth. From everything I have ever learned in history there has been murder, raping, stealing resources, and killing of indigenous people by European males. Your brain must be full of rocks to come up with that. I cant believe you posted that nonsense. You sound like you are stoned. This isnt the first time you have posted something so retarded. | |
|
| Catholic vs. Protestant
Posted: 6/10/2012 8:50:35 PM | | I used to believe people wanted to have peace among each other but I dont believe that anymore. There will always be evil and lets just admit certain people have no problem with keeping people up in arms. | |
|
Home
login 
