| Profile Preference Of Colour !
Posted: 9/2/2009 12:46:45 PM |
no... mac... you changed the topic and the question...
lets go back to the very first sentence in the thread... remember the title you put in the thread... oh yeah..... profile preference of colour!
so you go from colour to talking about straight people and gay people.... and then when i give you a different example..... its back to solely colour again.... at least make your mind up mate....
you want a straight answer... i'll give you one..... in fact i did but you seem to have missed it last time...
do i answer peoples profiles with "i am only looking for white people" in it..... no, why would i waste my time..... i wasn't the one bleating about the injustice of it all, If people can't see past a colour to see the individual... then quite frankly that is not my problem, thats theres!
do i answer people profiles with "i am only looking for black people" in them..... no, I am more than just a skin colour.... a lot of people may play on that for there own gain, but that doesn't work for me....
I was actually making a comparison to the OP to explain the term 'preference' in more simpler terms. Both are preferences yet you seem to accept one and not the other ?
I.e. You appear to accept there is a preference re: sexual orientation but do not acknowledge preference re: Colour ?
You say everyone is the same then you differentiate, are you not doing the very thing yourself that you are telling others not to do ?
do i answer peoples profiles with "i am only looking for white people" in it..... no, why would i waste my time..... i wasn't the one bleating about the injustice of it all, If people can't see past a colour to see the individual... then quite frankly that is not my problem, thats theres!
I agree , that it is there problem and also there preference so am therefore unsure as to why you feel so strongly about the preferences of others?
a) if someone has on there profile.. "i am only looking for white people"... as a black guy if i answer their ad... i blantantly haven't bothered to read it...... same thing if a gay guy answered my ad, so do i think i should have to answer them back..... no!
I have had some people say to me "nice profile there" or "i wish you luck"... to which i have replied with a thank you note ... that common curtosy... but then i hope they realise it isn't going any further than that..
the ironic one for me people who have asked for my msn and want to know me better who had " i am only looking for white guys" in the profile.... at that stage i do say no and point out i am very uneasy with it...
So wheres the problem? I'm quite happy to bypass female profiles that state they seek 'black men only' as I see it as their preference and nothing more!!
bearing in mind this was suppose to be a conversation you started about colour, thanks for trying to paint me out like i am some sort of homophobe... this bit particually annoyed me because you know squadush about me!!! and i think i answered that in example a.....
I do find a simple answer saves much confusion and please address the post else it shows a further weakening in your debate.
and that is what i said all along.... bravisimo!!!!!!! he finally got it...... well done that man......
More confusion ...........you stated people should look beyond the skin and yet say you have a preference for white women........
I stated .......
The bottom line is if I don't figure as someone's ideal there is nothing I can do about it other than to Accept it !!
This includes colour whether they be black, white, yellow or pink with white spots.
One final pointer , I find your post 79 quite contradictory....................
Have to say this is an Interesting Viewpoint.... beacuse I am a Black Guy who prefers to date white ladies...
I suppose it is more just because of the parts of the countries I was brought up in just tended to the more white than black, so I suppose in effect I feel more comfortable around white people then black..... saying that thought I have a ton of black friends now and go to clubs, the running joke amongst my friends is that I am the whitest black guy they know!!
You either see colour or you don't surely ???
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| Profile Preference Of Colour !
Posted: 9/2/2009 1:29:38 PM | You either see colour or you don't surely ???
Have to say this is an Interesting Viewpoint.... beacuse I am a Black Guy who prefers to date white ladies...
I suppose it is more just because of the parts of the countries I was brought up in just tended to the more white than black, so I suppose in effect I feel more comfortable around white people then black..... saying that thought I have a ton of black friends now and go to clubs, the running joke amongst my friends is that I am the whitest black guy they know!!
so did you decide one to just concentrate on the 1st line or bit that i have put in bold.... | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour !
Posted: 9/2/2009 1:39:22 PM | 
Feels like I'm watching tennis......... looks like the lastest on centre court are macforty & sarcastic spice.
Who's got the stronger serve? And where's my strawberries & cream? | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 1:46:43 PM |
Who's got the stronger serve? And where's my strawberries & cream?
and god help the umpire if neither of them like the colour of the ball | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 1:52:44 PM |
i have dated all sorts, but i draw the line at jocks.
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Posted: 9/2/2009 1:59:35 PM |
Have to say this is an Interesting Viewpoint.... beacuse I am a Black Guy who prefers to date white ladies...
I suppose it is more just because of the parts of the countries I was brought up in just tended to the more white than black, so I suppose in effect I feel more comfortable around white people then black..... saying that thought I have a ton of black friends now and go to clubs, the running joke amongst my friends is that I am the whitest black guy they know!!
I think it is like you said, I am not ruling anybody out... if someone happened to be black that pushed the right buttons then I wouldn't even think twice about it
I don't even really think about colour when it comes to choosing my partners, I've been out with allsorts, so it certainly isn't very high on my list of importance, but it does look like it is higher on the list of others, if that is the case then so be it.... just means they may miss out on some brilliant times and oppotunities...
I am not going to waste my time trying to change people in those cases, if the thing they see is my colour and they are making a judgement on me for that rather than seeing my personality then yes it is sad....... but such is life, there loss not mine....
Everyone has preferences up to a point.... colour may be one, age may be another, tall..short..fat..thin..blondes..brunettes..heck even spots and stripes and I have to say that a pair of green eyes always turns me to mush!!! lol people don't tend to be attack for others quite as much as the emotive subject of colour.....
It's not looking that much better in it's entirety really either is it ........in fact, thank you for pointing it out as it highlights the contradiction better!!
Both paragraphs are contradictory of the other.............First you see a colour difference then..... hey presto ....then you don't !!
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:03:27 PM | So as far as I can see, its fine for us all to have our own preferences, as long as we dont voice them on a profile or a forum such as this , is that right ?!
Personally , I dont see the problem in someone expressing a preference for one type of person over another whether that be on a basis of colour, physical appearance, attitude, age, intelligence or musical taste - are we now so PC that we aren't allowed to state our preferred partner qualities on here ? I thought that we were supposed to be upfront and honest about who we are looking for ....... long as we dont mention colour / religion / height / weight / age / number of toes / etc , eh ?
My own preferences extend to not wanting to date anyone who lurves country music - so shoot me (Preferably with an uzi 9 mm , not one of those pesky colt 45 things ......... )
Hmmm ... Think I'll go post that on me profile, before reporting anyone who doesn't like "more mature" blokes for being ageist to the thought police .... ! | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:08:41 PM | well done mac... you managed to put every black and white in bold......
what do you do for an encore.... make rabbits appear from hats??? flowers from sleeves???? see stuff that really isn't there.....
I know..... it's needing to have the last word.... taaaaa daaaaaaa!!!!!
go for it!!!!! | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:09:47 PM | | Sorry, havn't read the previous 8 pages, I like blue, however, creme/black and Ayers Red together as a colour scheme is very striking, but also traditional , from the 1800-1890's canal carriers. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:24:52 PM |
well done mac... you managed to put every black and white in bold......
what do you do for an encore.... make rabbits appear from hats??? flowers from sleeves???? see stuff that really isn't there.....
I know..... it's needing to have the last word.... taaaaa daaaaaaa!!!!!
go for it!!!!!
Can I take that outburst as you not being able to supply an answer then?
Feel free to contribute on the 'Has a Forum Debate ever changed your point of view?' thread !! ...............Don't thank me publicly on there though, I'm a humble kinda bloke !!
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Posted: 9/2/2009 2:30:10 PM | I know..... it's needing to have the last word....
Isn't that rather the pot calling the kettle... oh dear!
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| Profile Preference Of Colour !
Posted: 9/2/2009 3:05:20 PM |
Have to say this is an Interesting Viewpoint.... beacuse I am a Black Guy who prefers to date white ladies...I suppose it is more just because of the parts of the countries I was brought up in just tended to the more white than black, so I suppose in effect I feel more comfortable around white people then black..... saying that thought I have a ton of black friends now and go to clubs, the running joke amongst my friends is that I am the whitest black guy they know!!
I think it is like you said, I am not ruling anybody out... if someone happened to be black that pushed the right buttons then I wouldn't even think twice about it
I don't even really think about colour when it comes to choosing my partners, I've been out with allsorts, so it certainly isn't very high on my list of importance, but it does look like it is higher on the list of others, if that is the case then so be it.... just means they may miss out on some brilliant times and oppotunities...
I am not going to waste my time trying to change people in those cases, if the thing they see is my colour and they are making a judgement on me for that rather than seeing my personality then yes it is sad....... but such is life, there loss not mine....
Everyone has preferences up to a point.... colour may be one, age may be another, tall..short..fat..thin..blondes..brunettes..heck even spots and stripes and I have to say that a pair of green eyes always turns me to mush!!! lol people don't tend to be attack for others quite as much as the emotive subject of colour.....
It's not looking that much better in it's entirety really either is it ........in fact, thank you for pointing it out as it highlights the contradiction better!! so now you have taken what i put earlier in a thread to have another dig....do me a favour, if you are going to quote me... then at least do the decency of putting what i was replying to in that thread rather than trying to just take me out of context....... which was actually this: I am a black female and I prefer to date white guys - my ex husband is white! Its just a personal preference thing, however if I met a black guy who hit all the right buttons as it were, I certainly wouldnt write him purely because of the colour of his skin.
However the issue I do have is, I as a black female (and I would love to hear from other black females) is that I seem to attract a large number of black guys. Nothing wrong with that you may say, but there seems to be (in my personal opinion) a certain arrogance amongst the ones that I have come across.
They cannot seem to comprehend that I am not desperately lonely, my life will be fine without them in it and I do not need to be their princess etc etc
I main pet hate from males of any colour though - once you reach a certain age, you are too old to you street slang/text talk when you message me! I would prefer a grown up conversation in grown up English.
If I want anything else I will talk to my teenage sons! lol | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:14:51 PM | | Hmmmmm. I don't think it's particularly offensive for someone to state on their profile that the prefer back or green men, men over 6 foot, thin women or whatever, because it's personal. I do find it offensive when an idiot posts on the forums that someone who is black, was born here and has lived here all their life cannot be British because one or more of their parents wasn't born British. That both contravenes what the government defines as British and is racist. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:24:32 PM |
I do find it offensive when an idiot posts on the forums that someone who is black, was born here and has lived here all their life cannot be British because one or more of their parents wasn't born British. That both contravenes what the government defines as British and is racist.
1) So the government is 'right' on everything ? I had no idea!
2) What is 'racist' about that scenario? For it to be 'racist' surely it needs to be derogatory in some way?
I don't think it's particularly offensive for someone to state on their profile that the prefer back or green men, men over 6 foot, thin women or whatever, because it's personal.
Hmm......so on the one hand, it's not offensive for someone to claim that they don't like dating black men, yet it IS offensive to claim that a black man cannot be British.
Can you explain the difference?
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:24:56 PM |
Message 188 Do you seriously expect posters to quote what others have said along with what you have replied when it is your point that is being disagreed on .....if we did that the whole of the forums would be in boxed quotations !!
Stand or fall by your convictions on what you say alone instead of clutching at straws using the unquoted wording of others!!
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:34:52 PM | well mac... is that not what you have been doing... pulling apart every single quote that disagrees with you.....
like i said... if you are going to quote me, then please don't take my quotes out of context...... | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:40:36 PM |
Hmm......so on the one hand, it's not offensive for someone to claim that they don't like dating black men, yet it IS offensive to claim that a black man cannot be British.
Can you explain the difference?
The former is legal, the latter isn't. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:43:00 PM |
well mac... is that not what you have been doing... pulling apart every single quote that disagrees with you.....
Yes, isn't that what debate is about .........I'm not going to pull up posts that I agree with am I ?
like i said... if you are going to quote me, then please don't take my quotes out of context......
Did you or did you not say what I have quoted you as saying ?
Was message 79 not quoted in its full context as written by yourself ?
It is pure contradiction on your part alone and in your own words!! | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:53:05 PM |
Did you or did you not say what I have quoted you as saying ?
Was message 79 not quoted in its full context as written by yourself ?
It is pure contradiction on your part alone and in your own words!!
no.... it was only put in full context after I put up what I was actually replying to .... but i have had enough of hair spliting, so like i said... please don't take me out of context, I quite frankly have had enough now...... go beat up on someone else..... | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 3:57:45 PM |
no.... it was only put in full context after I put up what I was actually replying to .... but i have had enough of hair spliting, so like i said... please don't take me out of context, I quite frankly have had enough now...... go beat up on someone else.....
Goodnite, better luck next time !!
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Posted: 9/2/2009 4:03:23 PM |
The former is legal, the latter isn't.
OK, so you've gone from saying it's offensive to claim that a black man cannot be British because of its 'racist' aspect to saying it's offensive for legal reasons, viz:
I do find it offensive when an idiot posts on the forums that someone who is black, was born here and has lived here all their life cannot be British because one or more of their parents wasn't born British. That both contravenes what the government defines as British and is racist.
And is it a crime to claim that one disagrees with the government's definition of what constitutes a Briton? Has anyone been tried successfully for making that claim?
And does something have to be illegal before it can cause offence? | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 4:14:44 PM |
OK, so you've gone from saying it's offensive to claim that a black man cannot be British because of its 'racist' aspect to saying it's offensive for legal reasons, viz:
No I haven't; it is both offensive and illegal. It's also small minded, but that goes without saying or the need to respond to any pedantry. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 4:25:21 PM |
And is it a crime to claim that one disagrees with the government's definition of what constitutes a Briton? Has anyone been tried successfully for making that claim?
That's an interesting question. Has that occurred yet?
OT: From what I can deduce of the argument happening between Mac and Sarcastic spice is that it can be argued that sexual preference cannot just be limited to gender but also to race and colour and if you are going to argue that you prefer a certain ethnicity to another for the purposes of procreation or just plain no strings attached sex or even a deeper more profound love which will last forever that it can also be argued that to dismiss a potential sexual or love partner of your own sex means that you are guilty of being biased in the same way. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2009 4:27:45 PM |
No I haven't; it is both offensive and illegal.
OED Discriminate: (against) make an unjust distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of..........race.
This brings me back to my original point - you claim that you find it quite reasonable for someone to discriminate against black people purely on their race when it comes to dating them, yet you find it offensive when someone discriminates against black people with regard to their British nationality.
In both cases, there is discrimination against black people, yet you claim there is a difference between the two types of discrimination. I cannot see the difference - discrimination is discrimination is discrimination.You claim that the distinction is based upon the legality of how the government defines Britons, yet claiming that someone isn't British is not an offence.
So, on the one hand, you condone discrimination, and on the other, you find it offensive!
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