| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 4:32:27 PM | that it can also be argued that to dismiss a potential sexual or love partner of your own sex means that you are guilty of being biased in the same way.
That is an even more interesting question, twist to the debate ...

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Are we only ever going to be unbiased if we consider dating anyone else on the entire planet with a pulse?
Yes, if the PC brigade had their way .....
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 4:40:18 PM | Biased? By not fancying someone of the same sex? How is that bias, surely it is preference the same way that some people just do not fancy people of certain ethnicties. Are we only ever going to be unbiased if we consider dating anyone else on the entire planet with a pulse? | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 4:42:43 PM |
in both cases, there is discrimination against black people, yet you claim there is a difference between the two types of discrimination.
I don't make any such claims. Stating a personal preference for whom you wish to date - whether it's a black woman or stumpy bald white guy, remains just that, a personal preference. It doesn't mean that you don't like or respect people of a particular heritage, size, folical situation, skin colour etc - just that you know the sort of physicality that rocks your boat.
Stating someone cannot be British because of their parent's nationality or cultural/racial heritage when they were born in the UK and have British nationality is racism.
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 4:46:36 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That could be seen as biased too Pauline .... why keep it to the living?
Sorry SOH failure there......
Gawd you lot, I have no idea what you're all arguing about, lost the plot pages ago, but surely it's just a case of a bit of respect? | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 4:53:38 PM |
Gawd you lot, I have no idea what you're all arguing about, lost the plot pages ago, but surely it's just a case of a bit of respect?
Ok here's the thing, I don't think you can define what makes you actually fancy someone. Some people do it for you, some people don't, we all know that. So yes I have my types and preferences the same as anyone else, but if I look at someone and want to do unspeakably filthy things to them, then it's obvious that I may just be attracted to them.
So no matter whether I have my type or my preference someone might come along once in every millenium that makes me think, yes you do it for me. They might be the opposite of every other person in my life that I've ever fancied but they might have that something. I'm sure that people who have stated that they don't like certain types might meet someone one of these days who is that type and they won't be able to control that me you, knickers off now feeling.
But I think hell would freeze over before I started fancying people of the opposite sex, not because I'm biased, I simply don't fancy people of the same gender as myself. I don't think that's bias, it's something that I can't control, you can't force yourself to fancy people that you clearly don't. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 5:25:12 PM |
But I think hell would freeze over before I started fancying people of the opposite sex, not because I'm biased, I simply don't fancy people of the same gender as myself. haha, did you realise what you wrote there?
I'd tease you about making a freudian slip but I won't because you are always honest and genuine in your posts but your mistake is funny. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/2/2009 5:37:17 PM | Yeah I do now, it's late and I wrote the word opposite instead of same. I think I'll go and slap myself over the head with a copy of lesbian weekly or something.
No offence to anyone out there who is lesbian, it's the best I can come up with at this late hour.
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 3:42:00 AM | Ahem..... I may be mistaken, but I thought.....
Following on from the thread about self esteem and shallow men it got me wondering how people percieve those with preferences for skin colour on their profiles i.e 'Female seeking black males only' or vice versa.
Would those posters that agreed size is shallow also agree that colour is also or is it just simply preference or maybe you view it as being racist considering we arent allowed to discriminate against skin colour in all other areas of our lives ? ..... was the issue for debate and discussion here, rather than the content of a pair of pedants posts?
I'm a bit confused as to whether what is going on in this thread is flaming, or thread hijacking, or just plain tedious...... | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 4:33:48 AM | Twist to the argument, your preference of person is partly dependent on your relationship aims, (quick shag, not serious, dating, marriage, etc). USA study of 4 different social groups:
The hypothesis that prompted this study is that, when making commitment choices for marriage and children, subjects in all ethnic groups would prefer members of their own group.
When answering the question on dating, Euro-American women chose closely among three ethnic groups: slightly more than a third chose the African American, and somewhat less than a third each chose either the Euro-American man or the Hispanic man. When asked about visiting parents, they shifted from taking the African American to the Euro-American, which may reflect a desire for familial approval in the face of possibly stigmatized relations. However, in choosing for marriage and children, the largest number of Euro-American women selected the Hispanic man.
Hispanic men & Euro-American men, chose the Hispanic woman for dating and parental visit and the Euro-American woman for marriage and childbearing. In the case of Hispanic men, the choices suggest the recognition that marriage into the dominant group leads to higher status and increased social acceptance.
In contrast, the pattern for Hispanic women is complex: they chose the African American and Hispanic as dating partners. However, when it comes to parental contact, the majority of Hispanic women opted for a member of their own ethnic group, reflecting perhaps a desire for approval in a traditionally patriarchal society. In the case of marriage and childbearing, most of the Hispanic women chose the Euro-American man, again suggesting that they, too, may perceive marriage into the dominant group as a way to increase status and social acceptance.
African Americans chose members of their own group more often for both dating and commitment. It is more than possible that the long history of legal and social prejudice, segregation, and stigmatized intermarriage accounts for their choices. In fact, male and female African Americans actually show the lowest rate of intermarriage among the groups.
Asian American women and men chose members of this generalized Asian American ethnic group at a higher rate than any other group selected Asian Americans. The pattern of choices for Asian American men mirrors that of Euro-American men and Hispanic men, that is, they selected the Hispanic woman for dating and parental visit, but chose the Euro-American women for marriage and childbearing.
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 5:53:38 AM | I assume the person has some sort of issue with skin colour, , though not necessarily racism The problem comes when "prejudice" is seen as a negative, though its not surprising given the negative press it gets*wry smile*. I am looking for someone that doesn't have an "issue" with skin colour, so i am prejudiced towards erm.... empty boxes  | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 3:46:41 PM | This is getting silly, you guys are just picking at each others words!!
There is nothing wrong with stating a preference for black/white/brown partners it's an asthetic that people can find pleasing or not. Just like some girls may like a big men and some girls like skinny men.
When it comes to dating physical appearance is important- and none of this it's all personality crap- because it isn't.
The only time it would be racist is if you wouldn't consider dating a white guy because he was white and you had something against white people in general. However if you just find white guys really attractive then why not say so on your profile? Just like you might say men with big muscles. You are not talking about the essence of a person just their physical appearance.
Shallow? Yes. Racist? No. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 4:06:02 PM | i thought everybody moaned on here, that they don`t get any mail..............
surely a few emails from a few snoop doggs, a bollywood actress,jackie chan,annabell chong,and that north american indian from romford,would brighten up any ones day...
oh and that lipstick lesbian,that lookes rather nice.... | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/3/2009 4:52:15 PM | | crikey, write a post on anything to do with race and you get a big reaction, many many replies and a many a verbal tussle....quality entertainment. i enjoy watching it unfold, sussing out who is genuine, who is genuine but maybe mildly intolerant, who is overtly PC but obviously a closet racist, and who is your common garden racist...fascinating to watch. watch long enough and the mask will slip. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 12:58:53 AM |
i enjoy watching it unfold, sussing out who....... is overtly PC but obviously a closet racist
It's hardly 'closet' when their prejudice is plainly stated, whether on their profile or in forums posts!
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 2:22:25 AM |
Shallow? Yes. Racist? No.
I think thats a good summary, hottie
The race thing raises the suspicion that the person MIGHT be racist to some degree, but I am absolutely sure that most aren't. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 2:40:16 AM |
Shallow? Yes. Racist? No. Could we all not be considered shallow in that case as we all have preference's in which most are pointed out on our profiles?
In fact there are umpteen threads about what types of partners posters prefer or don't prefer.
Is it really that wrong or shallow to have a 'type' or 'features' that we are attracted to or indeed not attracted to?
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 2:40:34 AM | | How is it shallow to have preferences/prejudices? I allow you yours so therefore it is you who is shallow. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 2:55:14 AM |
Is it really that wrong or shallow to have a 'type' we are attracted to or indeed not attracted to?
not at all, everyone has aspects of a person they find attractive and aspects they don't
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:00:42 AM |
but someone who is not shallow will judge each person individually, not categorically state they are not interested in XYZ In an ideal world yes I would agree however there's a reason why mail is not returned on here or people never meet up ..........it's because they are generally not their type or what they are looking for !!
You don't go into a shop and ask for a loaf of bread when you want sugar !! | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:05:08 AM |
You don't go into a shop and ask for a loaf of bread when you want sugar !
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:18:13 AM | Could we all not be considered shallow
Yes! But then i think everyone is shallow to a degree when it comes to picking a potential partner! I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all!
The problem is some people are too scared to talk about skin colour as a simple physical attribute because of all the history of racism etc. Maybe if we realised skin colour is just that , only a difference in colour we could judge it just as we do everything else: fat, skinny, tall, short, black, white.
It's just like how people prefer different personality traits- i like a bit of a bad boy but some girls don't- does that make them prejudice?
Personally i'd probably say someone without any preferences or type was desperate... ha but that might get me into trouble. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:21:40 AM |
When it comes to dating physical appearance is important- and none of this it's all personality crap- because it isn't.
Well, thats me out , then - I'll get me coat ............ | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:26:05 AM | While agreeing totally with the sentiments in message 226 , I have to pedantically pick on one point:
Maybe if we realised skin colour is just that , only a difference in colour we could judge it just as we do everything else: fat, skinny, tall, short, black, white Tall/short, black/white, yes. Fat/skinny is a choice, and it therefore somewhat different. | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 3:34:39 AM |
Personally i'd probably say someone without any preferences or type was desperate... ha but that might get me into trouble.
When I say I don't discount any particular aspect when it comes to a potential partner that doesn't mean at all that I don't have preferences! - all it means is that I know from experience that sometimes you find yourself attracted to someone who doesn't fit what you imagine as your "type"
I have not responded to messages based on the persons looks or something else - I'm sure we all have - but I'm not going to say I don't want to hear from people of a particular type (especially not something that discounts so many people) because one particular individual MIGHT be attractive to me in some way!
I find dismissing a category by race particularly odd because the category "black men" or "asian men" covers such a massive range of looks and types the only thing the groups have in common is skin colour - in fact even that varies massively! | |
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| Profile Preference Of Colour ! Posted: 9/4/2009 4:37:46 AM | Tall/short, black/white, yes. Fat/skinny is a choice, and it therefore somewhat different.
Isn't it all down to genetics at the end of the day, some people by birth have high metabolism causing them to be skinny whilst others don't. Sometimes discrimination and / or racism can happen because of insecurities. I've seen white and black people be racist for no apparent reason. If I was an ethnic minority i'd probably find the special PC treatment more annoying than the racism itself. White people can experience racism too, when I was in Spain I got it from the Spaniards however I dealt with it on the spot there and then. One thing I've noticed is it's always politically correct white people that go on about racism all the time, must be guilt or something?
I find dismissing a category by race particularly odd because the category "black men" or "asian men" covers such a massive range of looks and types the only thing the groups have in common is skin colour - in fact even that varies massively!
You've said the same point about ten times now, obviously nobody is interested in answering you're pointless question. Continuously reposting it is bad netiquette and highly annoying. | |
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