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Posted: 3/29/2009 8:14:00 AM | Let me re-iterate. The pc brigade ensured he lost his job.
Listen again, most carefully.... (Fascism abounds).
HE LOST HIS FRANCHISE AS POSTMASTER.
Jeez! Just because the media lies doesn't mean we have to believe them
He had not lost his job at the time I posted that, he had been moved to another branch, if you read any interview this week with the man in question, he says quite clearly that he was moved to another branch as a result of his stance on people not speaking English.
He apparently lost his job on Thursday of last week, not immediately after the fuss that was made.
How could the "pc brigade" lose him his job? It was the people he refused to serve that complained about him, and according to the postmaster they were friends anyway.
Everyone bandies about the words "pc brigade" to suit, no one actually bothers defining who they are, or how they lost this man his job. Did his own actions have no bearing on his job loss?
According to some people's logic the pc brigade = the people who complained about him, in this case, a small amount of ethnic minorites.
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Published Date: 29 March 2009
A Nottingham sub-postmaster who was sacked for refusing to serve his customers unless they spoke English has said he feels "let down".
Deva Kumarasiri, 40, told his customers at Sneinton Boulevard post office that it was imperative they spoke English so he could understand them and stop queues building up.
After he went public with his demand, the Sri Lankan was forced to leave h
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is post office and move to another in the city.
But when Mr Kumarasiri went in to work on Thursday he was told by the agency that employed him that he had been replaced.
The father-of-two said: "I feel definitely let down because it was the 5% of the ethnic minorities who made this fuss. They don't want integration and they are the ones that made me leave the Sneinton post office. The other 95% are suffering because of that.
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Posted: 3/29/2009 8:25:18 AM |
someone that moves her permanently should learn the language of the country that they're here to sponge off.
Oh dear , that's told more about you in one sentence than all your self promotion ever could | |
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Posted: 3/29/2009 8:41:50 AM | Its a damm shame the coucils,goverment let these muslim racists an the pc louts
freedom of speech to harrass,threaten , an want to bomb the white people,but side
with these lunatics an get rid of this gentleman,
the people in power have so much failed all us english, its more than criminal,
its a crying shame , that they cant see behind there rose tinted glasses, | |
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Posted: 3/29/2009 8:48:54 AM |
" Oh! Has "Healing with the angels" returned???"
Ive just joined sorry! dont know who your on about,
If you want to get away with that one, you may want to post a newer pic! | |
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Posted: 4/3/2009 1:18:41 AM | It all boils down to one simple thing;;;
Please go into You tube and type in the search bar "What islam is not".
My earlier reference to "pc brigade" is very very apt. Regardless of the poster attempting to allay the fact.
My money is on the Postmasters replacement: Is a muslim.
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Posted: 4/3/2009 1:29:40 AM | | Why is it very apt? It's just a phrase people use without actually defining what it means, it's been said that it's people who want to do "pc courses", I've never heard of a pc course in my entire life. If people are going to accuse you of being part of a "brigade" or part of the "loony left" as some people prefer to call it, I wouldn't automatically call someone part of a brigade for expression their opinions. That just shows lack of imagination. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2009 5:34:49 AM | "t's just a phrase people use without actually defining what it means"
Doing the reverse of what common sense would suggest
Inconveniencing the innocent while making life easier for the wrong do-er
Not telling the truth in case it offends
Changing the language where you perceive it may offend
Doing exactly the opposite of what you believe
What you do has the effect of making the problem you were trying to cure far worse
Doing ridiculous things just for a political reason
Favouring a minority just for a political reason
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Posted: 4/3/2009 10:59:41 AM | I think i want to be his friend, the Postmaster type thing. Sick of grunting people pointing and not making an effort...
Also i think the immigriants could benfit from learning the lanaguage to | |
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Posted: 4/4/2009 3:07:29 AM | Pauline,
re: "pc brigade". Whether you like it or not, is very apt for my rounding up on the people who are on this matter. Try typing it into google if you want the consensus, description and origins.
Yes, there are courses on political correctness. Yes, there are courses on anti-racism. etc. etc. They are all a waste of taxpayers money.
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Posted: 4/4/2009 3:46:10 AM |
Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term applied to language, ideas, policies, or behavior seen as seeking to minimize offense to gender, racial, cultural, disabled, aged or other identity groups.
That varies from the description above, what I was trying to say was, why do people bandy about the words "pc brigade" every time a comment is made that disagrees with a certain school of thought? Do the people calling other people members of the "pc brigade" actually know what it means.
I've never seen a course on political correctness in the entire time I've been working with young people. In the field of social care, they are introducing minimum qualifications to bring social care into line with other bodies, up here, it's the HNC in Social Care.People need to be qualified in the field that they work in, previously people could work in social care with no relevant qualifications. If people think all these courses are a waste of taxpayers money, then we might as well say all further education in the field where people work with people are a waste of money.
I paid for my last post grad, it cost me almost 3 thousand pounds and I worked to fund it, there was no waste of taxpayers money in that instance. If people are paying to do courses in anything that they are interested in, how is that a waste of cash?
Any one day courses I've done have been delivered by my employer in house, I have no idea how that could be construed as a waste of taxpayers money. In some lines of work you don't have the choice about the types of courses you attend, if you are working with young kids, you will do child protection courses, if you work with vulnerable adults, you will have to be trained in POVA.
There are reasons why certain workers do courses, not just a matter of banging on the door of Lambeth council saying I want to be pc. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2009 12:10:09 PM | You'll be wiping their bottoms next
As long as the Government hands out moneys for peoples weaknesses these problems will self multiply. i know plenty who ride this wave most adequately.
Normally the outspoken "word fascists" actually number the very few and are never named when the unpopular action is stated.
That ex-postmaster should of been allowed his say. It was for the greater good. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2009 1:46:12 PM | I have to be qualified to do the job I do and because childcare workers need to know about child protection, of course you are right. I actually think it would be much handier if employers didn't ask childcare workers to be qualified in the field of childcare, they should ask them to do bricklaying courses instead. It's quite simple, people who teach do degrees in teaching, people who work with young people do degrees in youth work or similar courses. If that's all it takes to be called part of the pc brigade, there's not much hope really is there?
You wouldn't expect someone who worked in Asda to do a course on child protection, of course some of the courses that other people refer to as "pc courses" are done by some in the course of their employment. There are certain courses I have to do in the line of work I'm in, because I work with vulnerable young people. By the way, most of the organisations who assist people with addictions and homelessness receive very little if any Govt funding. Most of the projects set up to assist homeless people and people with addictions are run by charities.
Most of the young people I work with move on into their own accommodation and make a decent life for themselves, there are 1001 reasons why people of all ages become homeless, not all of them down to people's weaknesses.
Shame that some people don't want to acknowledge the fact that having an opinion that doesn't agree with mr subpostmaster, doesn't make you a paid up member of the pc brigade. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 11:59:58 AM | In the past..
Unmarried pregnancies.
Drugs.
Intersocial issues.
Worklessness.
And so on did not rear its head in such percentages for a variety of resons... Then they took those reasons away.
A fine example is now a Terror police chief who had his notes photographed. After 12 early arrests a sharp dressed muslim said he should lose his job.... (look at the surprise on my face) He is then out of his job....
Politically correct actions from appeasers.
Get my drift? pc does not work. Vulnerable kids? So, wheres the family ties? I'd make them of "his" peers suitably vulnerable.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 3:38:48 PM |
A fine example is now a Terror police chief who had his notes photographed. After 12 early arrests a sharp dressed muslim said he should lose his job.... (look at the surprise on my face) He is then out of his job....
Do you come from the planet Idiotron? | |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 4:02:33 PM | There have always been unmarried young mums, in days gone by people would be hidden away until they gave birth and in many cases they baby adopted so they wouldn't bring shame on their family. People have been using drugs in one shape or form for thousands of years, same with alcohol. Should we remove alcohol from shops because some people might end up addicted and need rehab?
Some of the young people I work have have no extended family who could take them in if they were made homeless or if they do, they don't necessarily have the space for them.
I've worked with teens whose siblings were in care, because they were being abused/neglected at home, but they had to stay there because they were too old to be taken into care. Is someone weak if they stay at home and be abused, or do they want to get out and make a better life for themselves. If people say go out and get a job and get themselves a home? Being homeless doesn't necessarily give you priority for housing, in some towns, so much council housing has been sold off, there is hardly any stock left for people who are homeless. Private lets are difficult to get because you need to pay a deposit and often one months rent, they also tend to get snapped up very quickly. So, if you have to leave home, where do you go?
Having homeless projects does not cause homelessness, it may not solve the problem either, but that's only because we could sadly fill projects like ours twenty times over.
It's not a sign of weakness wanting to get out of a situation that's leaving you at risk.
I couldn't care less if people think you are part of some "pc brigade" if you work with vulnerable people, because there are vulnerable people out there.
Home life isn't mum, dad 2.4 kids and roses round the door for a lot of people. Look at people who are termed hidden homeless, those sleeping on friends floors, going from place to place until they get somewhere, having nowhere to go doesn't stop people leaving intolerable situations, there are parents who when they remarry end up being caught in the middle of arguments between their child and the new partner and in a lot of cases, the person that needs to leave is the teenager. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 4:25:19 PM | Pauline,
not sure where you're going with this response,, but it is completely removed from the topic.
the guy has made a stance and been removed for his views, it stinks!!
He is in England giving benefits and services to British people, why should he have to compromise his business to people who aren't prepared to compromise.??
I employ people from all over the EU boundaries, my one stipulation in their employment is that they can communicate in English. This is not racist. This is in the fact that they are in a customer service situation where they have to serve English speaking people,in England.
Why should an English speaking person - in England, struggle to order food, claim benefit,complain about service,ask directions etc because political correctness put some one in a job who couldn't deliver. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 5:05:56 PM | I was talking about the pc brigade and if you look above, you will see that it's been commented that only do gooders etc do "pc courses", my response was, that many people do so called "pc courses" in their line of work, not because they are part of some brigade.
I don't think it's entirely off topic to try and explain further when some people's response to anything posted which doesn't agree with send them home if they can't speak the language, is you are part of some "pc brigade". That is too wooly and too open to any interpretation people might want to place on it, as you can see from people's explanations of it, it can be bent to suit almost every argument, ie, you don't want people hanged and flogged you are part of a pc brigade.
You don't agree with subpostmaster, you are part of the same "pc brigade." People bandy the words around to suit when they can't be bother forming a proper argument for their point of view, easy just to sum anything you dislike about an opposing opinion, by calling people part of some group that are out to destroy anything that isn't what England stands for.
Why should an English speaking person - in England, struggle to order food, claim benefit,complain about service,ask directions etc because political correctness put some one in a job who couldn't deliver.
Perhaps political correctness hasn't put people of different ethnicities in certain jobs, perhaps it's the greedy businesses wanting to outsource their work to countries where they can get away with paying people a fraction of the wage they would pay here.
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Posted: 4/10/2009 8:46:58 AM | "Perhaps political correctness hasn't put people of different ethnicities in certain jobs"
Politically correct 'non-jobs' costing the taxpayer almost £600million have been advertised in the past year, it emerged last night.
The 15,700 posts were offered by local councils and quangos in the Guardian newspaper's controversial 'Jobzilla' Society section.
They paid an average salary of £38,000 ? a fifth more than in the private sector.
They included a raft of politically correct jobs, according to the TaxPayers' Alliance
"perhaps it's the greedy businesses wanting to outsource their work to countries where they can get away with paying people a fraction of the wage they would pay here"
wotta laff....
1. When you shop for whatever, are you greedy and shop around for the lowest price?
2. When you sell something are you greedy and sell it at the best price you can get?
3. When you own something, you can do as you please with it. If someone owns a business and they wish to relocate it to a country where labour rates are lower that's their perogative. And a reason for moving the business to a lower labour cost country is so they can satisfy your demand for the lowest price.
4. Therefore, you expect to be employed at the highest salary you can get whilst being supplied goods at the lowest price you can get... Now who's the greedy one? | |
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Posted: 4/10/2009 9:07:10 AM | wotta laff
Really? Perhaps if you looked at the post I was responding to you will see it was an answer to someone else's comment about why should an English person struggle to get a service from people of other ethnicities and the point I was making is that relocation of businesses abroad could be one reason for that. Also paying workers a fraction of a wage that they would get here, will make certain companies very rich, I'm not sure how that equates to people getting any services for a lower price. Have people who buy services from BT for example, noticed that prices have been lowered since they relocated their call centres abroad? Or have BT just made more profits?
I'm not sure if you are asking these questions of me, however I will answer
1 No, I don't shop around for the best price for many items I buy, particularly clothes, wine, food, I actually make a point of buying goods that don't involve people being exploited to make them. I don't shop in clothes shops that sell T shirts for 99p for example.
2 I don't drive so the items that some other people might sell eg cars, obviously I won't, most things I have surplus, I give to charity shops or stick on freecycle
3. Correct, but maybe people might remember that when they are complaining about phoning a business and getting someone of another ethnicity on the phone, same as when they are complaining that work has been given to non UK people
4 I don't expect to be employed at the highest salary I can get, I work for a charity and I could be working for other employers and earn a lot more than I do at the moment. I don't earn anywhere near the 38000 quoted, I don't even earn 25ooo for the job I do. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2009 10:23:46 AM |
why do people bandy about the words "pc brigade" every time a comment is made that disagrees with a certain school of thought? Do the people calling other people members of the "pc brigade" actually know what it means.
I suspect that people know exactly what the term means, and why they use it.
I've never seen a course on political correctness in the entire time I've been working with young people.
Such courses also deal with 'diversity awareness', which is a very PC-orientated thing. I find it hard to believe that anyone working with children hasn't been on such courses, but it is possible, I suppose.... | |
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Posted: 4/10/2009 11:04:04 AM | Bydd rhaid i chi siariad Cymraeg te?
As my father would have said, Iechud da i bob Cymro, a twll di'n i bob... Saes? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 11:59:30 AM | "Bydd rhaid i chi siariad Cymraeg te?
As my father would have said, Iechud da i bob Cymro, a twll di'n i bob... Saes?"
Thats the sort of thing I hear when I go into a post office deep inside Wales.
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Posted: 4/23/2009 12:07:28 PM | | I've just Googled both those phrases. (I know, I'm sad). Google reckons there are three spelling mistakes in them. | |
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