| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/20/2009 11:50:40 PM | LOL, I'd expect nothing less from you m_church, judging from your two other posts. One where you felt the need to personally attack me (something I had not done):
If he had the balls in the first place, maybe he wouldn't be gay....
And the other where you promote violence as an expression of your deeply stable inner-being:
She'd probably beat the crap out of the other guy while I got us a pair of cold beers out....
or...
I'd beat him up... and she'd get the beers... either way, it would amount to the same thing.....
What a man's man, the kind women love! It's lucky we have the forums to be able to show women your true personality. I just don't understand how you're still single?!?  | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 3:58:54 AM | mchurch - maybe it's just your personal disgust with the subject that is making you feel like you do. Sure, it's not as commonplace as two chicks going at it, but since the OP has gotten replies both on the forum and in private messages, obviously the interest is there.
What's the big deal with that, anyway? Women are allowed to have our fantasies as well. We don't all get off on making out with our best friend for a man's benefit, after all :P
I agree with the OP, you guys need to relax. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 6:01:01 AM | It's not about having to relax.. it's about being told our opinions are wrong when we don't match what the OP is saying. There's interest out there for everything you can think of under the sun, but the OP asked a specific question and was given specific answers. To be considered repressed, ignorant, or any other derogatory terms simply because we're not interested in the subject he broached shows exactly what we're dealing with here. I have no desire to see two men together, and don't consider it a turn on in the least.. for that, I should take the OP's comments that I'm just too shy to say otherwise because I have a picture and profile posted? Sorry guys.. some like it, some don't. To those that do, enjoy yourselves.. that's what life is all about. For those of us that don't, OP you need to just accept that some don't agree with you and your findings, and carry on.
What a man's man, the kind women love! It's lucky we have the forums to be able to show women your true personality. I just don't understand how you're still single?!?
If you read and paid attention before your postings OP, you'd see that he's not single at all. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 7:59:25 AM | And here I thought that the question was whether or not women had this fantasy.. silly me.
A) Count me in. I have. Pretty much every guy I've ever dated, in fact, but I knew it would stay a fantasy. I've dated a few guys who didn't get all upset or grossed out if I shared this fantasy, but they'd never have done it. I was/am ok with that.
B) Unless the guy is bi-sexual, I doubt any would do it.
Finding fantasies sick is kind of ridiculous, especially just a guy on guy one. I mean.. helloooo. FANTASY.. not real, just a random thought that flicks into one's brainpan. Not sick, but I suppose kind of odd.
I wouldn't want to see a guy I was dating with another guy because how the heck can I compete with a penis?!
Hah.. it's funny you should say that because that'd be my thing, too. I know how much *I* like the penis. What if this fantasy was given to me in a live show and he liked the penis as much as or more than I? YIKES!
Strange fear to have, I imagine, but there it is. I'm pretty good, I think, but I can't compete with penis, really. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 8:08:25 AM |
One where you felt the need to personally attack me (something I had not done):
Let me see, you took that as a personal attack, but used backhanded remarks and implied insults at everyone and we're not supoposed to take them as attacks...?????
And the other where you promote violence as an expression of your deeply stable inner-being:
Actually, if you read all of my posts that I have written, you'd know that I've never claimed to be deeply stable... In fact I have used violence to resolve issues in the past...
Sometimes I've regretted it... More often, I have regretted not using violence....
I just don't understand how you're still single?!? I'm not... haven't been for a while now....
judging from your two other posts
judging from your two other posts
Speaking of other posts, I notice that you like to 'cherry pick" the posts you reply to...
I don't see you defending yourself over me pointing out your claims of other posters backing your views were false... probably because as I said before it's all BS... | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 8:17:22 AM |
mchurch - maybe it's just your personal disgust with the subject that is making you feel like you do
Maybe it is.... or maybe because he came on here and posted a message to start this thread implying that everyone who didn't agree with him was essentially homophobic, represeed and or insecure....
but since the OP has gotten replies both on the forum and in private messages, obviously the interest is there.
Out of 49 messages ,he had 3 women say it was a fantasy of theirs.... the rest of the messages were against the idea...Then he claimed the Yes replies were more numerous than the negatives.... so do we even believe he's gotten private messages....???? NO
Sure, there's an interest there... but then people turn and look at car accidents on the freeway too.... | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 8:47:07 AM | Does any one want some of my popcorn?
I do so love to watch men duke it out. It's another fantasy of mine.
Right now I am imagining the men naked while argueing.
Where's the thread about that? Naked men fighting. Go gladiators!! | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 9:54:52 AM | LOL...
Keep using terms like "backhanded" and "implied", but somehow still can't find one place where I attacked anyone personally. You can of course find two posts where I attempted to be conciliatory and try to make peace, but nope. Straight men who are infuriated by the idea of another man can't help it. It promotes anger in them that is so innate it is almost a knee-jerk reaction.
And I'm not sure which thread you're reading, but yeah, there have been several women who said it was a fantasy of theirs too, try re-reading it (in addition to my private messages). But I did get a kick out of the violent response from you m_church, about you and your girlfriend beating up another guy. You go, boy. Beat them fags and slap them bit#hes! Defend your fragile masculinity at any cost! Show 'em all what a "true man" is.
The funny thing is I now see I would have gotten hostile responses no matter what, but the reason it even more so infuriated the male ego when I prefaced my question by saying many who were homophobic or insecure would protest, was because when they did have that very response, they felt it was harder to react that way without looking predictably reactive and proving my very point (how do you get pissed and show insecurity without looking like a fool when someone already predicted it?) I can see how that kinda ruined it for you.
Now that I see that despite never attacking anyone personally (and it was a very civil thread for the first 10 posts or so), and after making two attempts to appease and quell the hostility in subsequent posts, I take back the apology. Instead, I say I was right in what I predicted, but just much more right than I thought. I find it so psychologically interesting, the reaction it prompted for insecure men. Yep, you have proven that in spades, so I use that word. Go ahead and rant and bash all you want for everyone to see; it will help the ladies know who the homophobes are before they respond to your profile. It is curious though: take away all the "male" posts (although some were civil) and read this thread. What do you get? Women responding as adults either for or against, in a decent and mature manner. I support the women here against the small handful of jackasses that react this way to any idea of homosexuality if it isn't between two lipstick lesbians designed for their own pleasure (the world was made for men, right?). I have learned so much from this, and more so why gay men get along with straight women and vice-versa. Ladies, I hope you know not all men are like this and you have just as many rights to whatever fantasy you want; don't let insecure men tell you what's good for the gander is not okay for the goose, this is 2009. Demand better. Amen.
P.S. Is there any way I can re-title this thread "All insecure men with inner hostility raise their hand? | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 10:02:54 AM | Please keep in mind I am taking no sides here.
I'd just like to point out the dichotomy of men and women with respect to MMF v. FFM threesomes.
Many women here have expressed an interest to SEE it or admit to watching gay porn, but only one has said she's done it with on SO.
Now, how many men would say that? Sure, the fantasy of a tryst w/Eliza Dushku and Alli Hanigan might cross our minds, matter of fact, if women could read our minds... they'd never stop slapping us, but in reality we want YOU: our wives, GFs, FWBs to invite another woman into our bed. Its YOU we want as half the fantasy.
I have no answers for this either, just an interesting observation. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 10:07:17 AM | This is a fun thread....good job OP. Here are my answers:
A) I think the concept is intriguing and would be open to that with the right two guys.
B) I am finding, since being on POF, that this is a lot more common then most know. I think turn around is fair play especially since the majority of men think it is hot to see two women together. Why would that be any different then two guys together?
Sexual exploration is sexual exploration. As long as your safe and it is consentual to each his/her own!  | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 10:22:13 AM | To answer your question PNG, I have fantasized about it. I've shared this with several of the men I've had relationships with and several of them have been ok with the idea. My fantasy changes from being strictly focused on me, to me being the observer, if you know what I mean.
My current is bi, so this is something he would do for me... provided we ever agree on the 3rd party. He knows that I have no interest in being with another woman, so him asking me isn't going to happen. Well. He could ask.. but it won't happen. If he decided not to do it for me, then it won't happen. I won't force him. I can't. He has free will and is allowed to use it. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 10:22:26 AM | Thanks SassyRedhead, for not being intimidated to answer the question the way you wanted to. Any answer is okay; it was the whole point of the question.
And VoodooGuru, thanks for proving that men can be masculine and straight and express a viewpoint while still being gentlemen. I appreciate your civility as well as your opinions. 
Okay, $1000 says we are about to hear more angry rants  from the same 3 or 4 men, but let's hope I am wrong.  | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 2:02:52 PM | I'll add my two cents too, why not? It's popped up in my mind as a fantasy (with fantasy guys, no one I know:P), but I doubt it would be something I'd ever want to really do.
And mchurch, he was asking about the interested females opinions, not yours:P Or if a guy would do that for his woman. You have made your opinion both loud and clear. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 2:39:58 PM | I consider myself to be pretty open minded sexually, but personally, I find that whole idea repulsive. I have never fantasized about two men together, and if I had any inkling that my man ever thought about, or would consider, sexual activity with another man, that would definately be the end of the relationship.
I AM ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, NOT FOR OTHER WOMEN, AND IN NO WAY IS IT MY INTENTION TO OFFEND ANYONE. But to me, it's about masculenity. When two men hook up, in my eyes, at least one of them is sacrificing their masculinity to the other. I have several gay friends, and respect their rights to conduct their personal lives as they choose.I am speaking strickly to what I coose for MYSELF., and since I don't invite them into my bedroom, thier preferences are of little concern to me. In the case of bringing another player into the mix...it would defnately be a female. I know it's a terrible double standard, but there is something incredibly erotic about two girls together, that just isn't there with two males. You wanted honest opinions ~ so there's my thought, for whatever they're worth. And again, I respect everyone's right to form their own opinions about these things, and intended no offense to anyone. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 2:55:34 PM |
never did I say that "anybody who can’t find this practice a turn on was “homophobic, insecure and repressed”.
Yet your original post says this:
This may sound sick to many (especially homophobic on insecure men) but it is just the reverse of men fantasizing about their woman with another woman.
However, if I am suffering from Alzheimer's and did and just don't remember, anyone is free to copy and paste where I did.
So dude, read what you wrote. Or get checked for the above problem. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 2:59:26 PM | Sure, I have had this fantasy and would have loved to have made it a reality (nearly did, but thats another story)
However, I like the idea of men showing affection to one another, caressing and even giving each other blow jobs, but I would not have wanted to see anal intercourse.
As long as I get to set the rules and am the center of attention.... guess I am just a control freak? | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 3:00:59 PM |
Okay, $1000 says we are about to hear more angry rants from the same 3 or 4 men, but let's hope I am wrong.
No your not wrong........................
what you are wrong about though is basing the out come on a male who you consider to be homophobic or emasculated. Just because some one would disagree with your topic wouldn't make them so , but what ever carry on with the stereotyping your doing a wonderful job
What you are talking about here are "choices" a couple would make in a open relationship. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 4:20:57 PM | This may sound sick to many (especially homophobic on insecure men)
I remember when I was a schoolboy. If somebody didn't want to do something physically challenging, or dangerous, they were called "Fag". It's interesting to see that gay people, and those that want bisexuality to be considered the norm, have names for those that don't have the same predilections and desires they themselves have... And use them as weapons to try to influence our opinions, by trying to shame us... Just as those immature teens and pre-teens did all those years ago. Grow up children. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 4:41:35 PM | | I may like seeing two guys together doing "stuff" *ahem...but I've never considered my guy doing things to another man. I guess its not so much of a fantasy. Besides, I think I'd get too jealous by the attention he'll get :P | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 6:00:38 PM | Here's a clue and this applies to HETEROSEXUALS only: woman + woman = hot Gosh don't want to call anyone bisexual or lesbian, but absolutely have never and probably never will find same sex kissing or watching same sex doing anything sexual together as hot. So please don't state that heterosexuals enjoy watching bisexual activities, I don't. Ok, not into really watching other couples period. Again, if he wants to watch porn, that is he. I just prefer to be a participant with one partner. I have enough on my hands with one partner
OP hope you did get who you were looking for, I mean the answers you were looking for. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/21/2009 6:19:15 PM |
This may sound strange to some, but I have met a lot of females, the ones less afraid to be open with their sexual desires, express the desire to their boyfriend or husband to see them with another guy. This may sound sick to many (especially homophobic on insecure men) but it is just the reverse of men fantasizing about their woman with another woman......There are men that would never do this of course, others that would like it but would not want their woman to see them in that light (emasculated), and others that kinda feel liberated cuz they get to explore their fantasy with another guy, even if mostly straight.
PhxNiceGuy Never have and doubt I ever will fantasize a man of mine being with another man sexually. Simply because I think its' not sexy seeing top/bottom men. Same for butch women top/bottom. Maybe I am just to feminine. 
And the word emasculate makes me terribly sad, because it denotes taking away a mans manhood and making him weak. And one doesn't have to be insecure or a homophobic to see this. | |
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