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Posted: 3/23/2009 8:20:56 PM | phx -
im actually british - i think emigrating to australia and leaving my life-long friends behind in england has been a big help in being able to shake off any sillyness and be able to be broad and blunt. for example, if i was home in the boozer with them, i wouldnt dream of admitting that i would consider it.
i agree about being secure in my sexuality. im not threatened by homosexuality, no one should be. i know what i like, which is women, but if it turns out one day, maybe tonight, maybe next week, maybe 5 years down the line, that i have some other feelings, so what? theres nothing wrong with it, its not unhealthy practice, and you arent going to die if you do it. i love how most guys are really uptight about it, i used to see it in my friends back home. we used to mess around in the pub and pinch each others arses or stick our tongues down each others ears when the other wasnt looking. its just a laugh, nothing sexual, but some of the guys just stood and let it happen and laughed about it, and others would flip out and go "what you doin you fvckin queer ewwww go away stop it you faggot". now you might think the person who let it happen perhaps enjoys it and is therefore gay, however its the opposite. the ones who let it happen and laugh about it are the ones who are comfortable enough in their sexuality to be able to take a tongue in the ear off another guy as a joke rather than a sexual gesture. the ones who flip about it tend to be the ones hiding something. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 8:27:53 PM | also, gay people can be the nicest people ever.
i was in kings park a few weeks ago and i saw two gay men holding hands walking a ferret on a lead.
this is a prime position for some big egotistic twat to start taking the p!ss out of them, which is what happened, i could hear guys left right and centre mumbling profanities.
i felt sorry for the couple, they must have felt horrible if they heard anything that was being said. so i approached them, and i started talking to them about their ferret.
they were the nicest guys in the world, made no sexual gesture towards me whatsoever, they talked to me like any other guy would down the pub. we had a 20 minute long conversation about ferrets and sports and motorbikes and i left them to carry on after they informed me of a big event going on in perth city which they were attending. so if i do end up going there with my friends, hey, theres two more of us to enjoy the night!
so one thing iv gained there is two new friends which could possibly result in a good night out in a couple of weeks time.
what these egotistic arseholes have lost out on is the same. just because their scared of homosexuality, they would rather remain cooped up in their sour little world with their other hostile friends.
iv got no time for that, i came to australia to enjoy life and enjoy people, being friendly with gay people is only the beginning of it. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 8:35:08 PM | One of my girlfriends fantasised about this
and there was someone we both knew that I would have been willing to play with, but he had a boyfriend, and the three of them shared a house - tricky.
I would consider kissing another man, and exploring that side of things, why not?
I would ask my lover if she wanted to just watch, or if she wanted a piece of the action, in which case she would have to have a say in who the other man was - someone we both found attractive.
I think that opening up to homosexual play is very healthy.
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Posted: 3/23/2009 8:49:48 PM | Ok I"m gonna ignore all the back and forth drama and tit for tat and this means this and that means that and just answer the original question.
I've never had to fantasize about it.. I dated a guy who was bi and saw it first hand. Didn't bother me in the slightest. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 8:58:44 PM |
I didn't realize you knew me so well after 3 days in a forum. You have yet to address a SINGLE quote I've addressed, or point I've made.
no explanation, apology or attempt to be civil not when each of them is replete with barbs, digs, assumptions, and innuendos.
"open-mindedly gay-friendly" you claim you have been in the past  How about "open minded and gay friendly I am?"
this is not about a "gay/straight" thing Huh? Well for all the homophobia and insecure hetersexuality you accuse me, and others of, I'd have thought differently.
even when they explain and tell you it's not so. again, I addressed numerous direct quotes of yours; NONE of which you have re-addressed.
copy-and-paste quote HTML-style does not back up anything you say as again they are cherry-picked and you left out huge chunks Then, would you PLEASE cut and paste the "huge chunks" that address how wrong I am?
I am asking you...BEGGING you, to PLEASE show me SPECIFICALLY where I have twisted a single word. Show me where I "cherry pick" your quotes leaving out the important part that gives it a different meaning. You have also not shown me the quotes where I'm all over the girl/girl thing; or ONE SINGLE ANTI-GAY quote I've EVER WRITTEN.
Show me a REAL apology; a REAL attempt at being civil; and/or a REAL admission that you MAY have said something that could have been misconstrued. Show me examples that DO NOT include the words "homophobia" or "insecurity."
You're not going to, because you can't. You are also absolutely correct, it is a "dead horse." You are also correct in that anyone reading the posts can see what's going on. I've given specific examples; you give non-specific innuendo laden rants. Truly pathetic. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 9:04:58 PM |
2) This the last time I am going to repeat this (so please don't keep misquoting me): Although I did say this may sound sick especially to homophobic or insecure men, I DID NOT BY ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SAY if you find it a turn-off or wouldn't do it you were then by default homophobic or insecure, nor do I believe that. However, when people in society or in this thread get angry, overcompensate, act threatened and call names, that is a different story; it is about respect and civility. Of course most men probably wouldn't, but my prefacing statement was only wrong if you think there are no homophobic or insecure men, many who may be secretly bi-curious but suppressing it, which is who I was talking about.
Well before I mis quote you... I just wanted to say how it reads to me.
You can flip the script how ever you wish and then extrapolate to your hearts content.
You don't have a dog in this fight? I believe you do and right now it's cowering in the corner like it went on the carpet. from your opening topic it read to those males who disagreed with the topic were insecure homophobes maybe if you offered an apology it would ease the tension . it's how you implied it that upset some users. The way I read it is those that are not down to your way of thinking don't belong on the thread, don't start a topic and then begin railroading your belief system down the Men's throats because they disagree with you.
to answer your fantasy/topic I have no desire what so ever to swap bodily fluids with another male. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 9:17:40 PM | Two guys kissing can be very hot but two guys having sex.....have you SEEN 1 guy having sex?! They look ridiculous. I dont see myself being turned on by the MM BJ or sex.
But the slow kissing, that could be good. But not my man. I dont want him kissing anyone, man or woman. | |
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Posted: 3/23/2009 11:54:17 PM | yeah, chochis is right, most guys look ridiculous when their having sex, they look like their having a seizure. girls, especially on top, look amazing.
iv seen a few porno guys who look cool when their banging. like some super sex robots. the kinda guy you go, yeah, it would be cool to be able to bone like him. but not too many. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 1:45:07 AM | I wouldn't call that a fantasy; More like a nightmare; wake up, fast. different strokes, for different folks. You don't prefer women, so wouldn't be turned on by watching a man and a woman, any more than your average woman, would want to watch her man, doing another. Nope, wouldn't happen.  | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 1:05:51 PM |
from your opening topic it read to those males who disagreed with the topic were insecure homophobes maybe if you offered an apology it would ease the tension
I guess I am one of those males that would say this is "not happening" on many levels. First and foremost...I am not bi, homosexual and very sure I'm not suppressing any curiosity or tendencies.
I read the OP opening post and took no offense at that time. I have re-read it and still don’t feel as though I have been called a homophobe.
Although I find the scenario described in the OP’s opening post repulsive…I do not find his verbiage the same.
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Posted: 3/24/2009 1:45:56 PM | | If I was in a relationship with a guy I wouldn't want him having sex with anyone, man or woman. I've seen it in movies & magazines and it's pretty hot. I'll watch that but I've never seen 2 guys in real life. I would watch other guys if I had the chance though. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 1:51:02 PM | LOL, you just LOVE this quote/comment style a lot huh, m_church. Okay, I'll indulge you:
And no, I never attacked anyone personally or directly as I was attacked initially. What part of that don't you get???
The part where you then you go ahead and insult me again...
Sorry, I never went after anyone directly until I was attacked directly by you, and then I addressed you personally, yes. You need to go back and re-read how many attacks and insults you hurled before I finally addressed you directly (you made quite a few, and violent ones).
Anyway: "Dead horse, meet m_church and windloverr, the two guys carrying clubs".
That's an insult? Wow you're sensitive. Nope, still a dead horse and you won't drop it, despite many times where I tried to make peace for all to see.
Sorry, part of your problem is that you refuse to recognize that to
me, and obviously to others... you were being insulting...
Your arrogance comes back as a refusal to even acknowledge that you
did so or even to acknowlege that you might have... No apologies nor
even a "I'm sorry if you interpreted what I said as..." No... you just
put it right back on us for being wrong because we didn't agree with the way you opened this thread...
You don't seem to understand that communication is a two way
street... It's not just about diseminating the message, it's about
making sure the receiver doesn't get the wrong message because they
perceive it differently... In the event of a misunderstanding, normal
procedure in a forum is to apologise if someone feels slighted... and
try to correct the issue... not a bare-faced denial of what was
done...
Several postings later on, you attempt to apologise, but then go on to make sarcastic
remarks or backhanded insults again... This negates the value, sincerity and quality of any apology
Nope, I completely disagree: it's not at all an OP's responsibility to make sure they predict any and all outcome and others' possible inference and interpretation and then cover all bases like a "disclaimer" in a contract. It is however about you accusing me, telling me what I meant, then hurling direct attacks and insults that were unwarranted. You can infer things however you like, and although I went on to apologize if anyone took it the wrong way once I realized some may have (which is all anyone can do), you don't get to tell me what I meant or my intention was, which you insist on doing to no end, in order to justify your nasty and violent reaction. You're desperately trying to blame someone else because you inferred things a certain way, even though apologized for. And to be honest, I did somewhat predict it in my preface when I suggested how some straight men would view the topic, just didn't expect it to get personal and aggressive.
Straight men who are infuriated by the idea of another man
can't help it. It promotes anger in them that is so innate it is
almost a knee-jerk reaction.
Again, you have no clue as to what my feelings on the topic are. You
just blindly go ahead and tar me with a generalised view without
KNOWING what my reasons are... Never thought to ask, did you
Yes, you weren't being insulting but then you typed...
(This one was at me directly by the way)
Don't know "what your feelings are"?!? Never "thought to ask"?!? You mean after the tirade you went into I have no idea what your feelings are, as if you were really feeling a different way, but posted what you did instead in hopes people would ignore it and realize you were masking "true, noble feelings"? WTF? No, you made your feelings and issues crystal clear and still do, sorry. Everyone knows your feelings on this unspeakable, threatening topic.
It's lucky we have
the forums to be able to show women your true personality. I just
don't understand how you're still single?!?
Yep, stand by that. We all show who we are by how we handle disagreement and issues, the language we use, and if we find it hard to be civil. I learned a lot about the kind of person you are, and so have many I would presume.
so was this one...
Defend your fragile masculinity at any cost! Show 'em all what
a "true man" is.
Wow, touched on a big nerve with lots of macho manly men-men. Gawd, the hostility is so telling.
Of course most men probably wouldn't, but my prefacing statement was only wrong if you think there are no homophobic or insecure men, many who may be secretly bi-curious but suppressing it, which is who I was talking about
Yep, again, I finally addressed you personally after your initial insults and refusal to make peace and believe exactly what you quoted, yep. And yeah, I did post the rest clarifying that you can't deny those types of men exist. Thanks for re-posting it.
As much as you may or may not realise it, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and try to explain this...
When you 'qualify' statements as you did in the above... you end up making negative and or implying statemnts, perhaps without realising that you are... This goes back to my early statement about 'communication'being a two way street...
Nope, he opposite: Innocent until proven guilty (or asked before attacking)... it is up to anyone, especially before taking insult and then attacking someone directly, to ask themselves do they have crystal clear evidence to interpret something a certain way or to not be offended. The way I prefaced it could be taken innocently as it was intended, but without proof or asking me, you chose to interpret it your own way then attack me. Only about 3 or 4 posters interpreted it that way, the rest answered the two questions exactly as posed.
P.S. Is there any way I can re-title this thread "All insecure
men with inner hostility raise their hand?
I support the women here against the small handful of jackasses that react this way to any idea
Yep, I realized after all the attempts at explanation and conciliatory attempts there was no use and it was actually the same 2 or 3 men going on and on, regardless. So I then realized it was useless because these are people consistently demonstrating that attitude and behavior, who identified themselves (raised their hand) loud and clear. And yes, I definitely do support the women over the few like you going ballistic: yes, yes, yes.
I would suggest that if you want to be taken seriously, you drop the little 'dig's that you keep making and try to keep your posts on the subject.
Those little digs do undermine both your credibility as a person and the validity of the thread. That is my personal view... and may or may not be the view of others on here...
In truth, you have probably done more to harm the image of gays and
homosexuals than an ardent anti-gay person could have done. By your
attitude and arrogance you have likely made any positives from your initial
posting into negatives.
Hmmm.... you mean the little "digs" I directed solely at you and the other guy who attacked me directly with no proof or attempt to find out what I mean and even after I apologized if anyone took it the wrong way? No, I stand by those "digs". And if I have harm to the "image of homosexuals"? Really??? Because to date, I have gotten so far 19 direct messages regarding this thread, all positive and supportive. And if you read the recent posts here, everyone else seems to understand clearly. Could the problem be, um, YOU???
To clarify so you're clear now, I no longer have any interest if YOU are offended because after explanation and many attempts to make peace and apologize if there was an unintended implication or misunderstanding, you continued with personal remarks, so yes: In that matter I am addressing you personally and have no problem admitting I finally served it all right back in your court. But again, before all that (anywhere in the first page or so in fact) I challenge you to show me were I attacked anyone personally and directly. I never did and you'll have to do a lot better than explaining you had the right to go off because you chose to interpret my OP one way when it can clearly be interpreted innocently as it was intended and as I explained. But personal attacks is your style so you don't have to keep pointing out that later I made "digs" at you.... I certainly did because that's how you operate and understand, and nothing else works with you.
As for being homophobic or not, I can tell you that straight or gay, if you spoke to me in person with the condescending and sarcastic and insulting attitude you have offered so far... I would seriously consider a violently physical reaction by way of response...
LOL, oh trust me, I do BELIEVE you. Don't forget, I already pointed out your violent nature and comments and others have seen it too. Remember this little admission of yours, where at the mere thought of it at the beginning of this thread you posted how "you and your woman" would beat up the third guy, indicating of course what a nice, stable, secure and effective gay basher you would be?:
She'd probably beat the crap out of the other guy while I got us a pair of cold beers out....
or... I'd beat him up... and she'd get the beers... either way, it would amount to the same thing....
Do you beat your girlfriend too or just "them faggots"? Why do you feel the need to keep reminding everyone that you resort to violence when threatened emotionally? Good way to prove you really are "the man" huh? Shows how straight and secure you are.
I think you need to take a long look in the mirror bud. I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but you sincerely have latent issues that you are expressing, whether consciously or subconsciously.  | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 2:03:10 PM | Can't we all just get along?  I was just thinking about something. I had never realized that guys did it missionary. I just figured it would always be doggy. Thats something that surprised me & was weird the first time I saw that (in the movies) But then it was so sexy & loving, them looking into each others eyes.  | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 2:10:49 PM | RE [quote} Redlance71,
You reek of hypocrisy. Female-female is a homosexual act.
Hey mick2521, try reading all of the posts Einstein. I blatently stated I had the view that 2 females was not as disgusting in my opinion as male on male. I acknowledge it is a double standard that is not uncommon. I even tried to explain it. You've got no basis to attack me, I am neither fooling myself nor anyone else.
For your education and to explain out what the OP supposedly does not know are the reasons for this(though I know he does know) here I go again -
I find FF action can be a bit repulsive to me at times, and a turn on at others. It's not a fetish I pursue. Femininity is not reduced in my mind by seeing two women being close to each other. I do not care to see PDA in public from either FF or MM, I am equally turned off by seeing that either way. I'm not a big fan of big PDAs put on by anybody straight or otherwise. It's poor taste imho and too distracting. I have issues with porn in general so it is not an active part in my life but when I did view it I was not into same sex scenarios, didn't mind seeing FFM and tolerated MMF. In some strange sense women sexually expressing with each other was almost a femininity booster, my drawback to FF stuff is it is unnatural in some ways. This is why FF not a full blown turn-on for me. When a dildo was brought into a scene it was almost a turn off for me yet I have no inhibitions or fears of seeing my mate use any toy she wants and even using them on her. Odd huh?
I find MM action to be very repulsive to me. I don't ever see myself wanting to be in a sexually vulnerable situation with a man. Male on male action for me is demasculation. In my mind there can be only one male and if I was into dudes someone would have to be the "bi**ch". No, it's not about aggression either. I see MM actions as invasive. Most of the time some guy's member is going into a body part of another guy and NO guy has a place in thier body where the male member is DESIGNED to go. To an accused "homophobe" like me it's unnatural, disgusting, invasive and destructive emotionally and mentally. This is not everybody's view - to each thier own. I resent being called a homphobe cause I wont jump on the sausage wagon. It's ignorant.
Core of the question was would I indulge on a woman's MMF fantasy if she really wanted it. My answer - I don't see myself wanting to do that for my girl. I won't say never. MMF does not mean some guys has to blow me or even intentionally touch me. My tolerances broaden and tighten depending on the relationship. Would I like to see FFM action with her in it? Probably not. She's not into that so neither am I. I once had chance for FFM with me and I turned it down, my issue since then has been why the hell did I turn it down? Each women was very hot! What would it have been like? It wasn't perfomance anxiety. More than likely my faith convictions kicked in. It's the only explanation I have got. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 3:34:39 PM | Redlance71, I understand you and expressed that in a previous thread. I have no problems with your view whatsoever. In your first posts you thought I was saying you were a homophobe if you didn't like it; I clearly stated I did not think that whatsoever, and I think we resolved it. We clarified a misunderstanding civilly without any attacks and I see nothing wrong with your view when you express it as your own feelings. That is what this forum is for after all and any answer is okay or "correct" as long as not insulting from the start like the ones from m_church and windloverr, who wants me to respond to his recent post and claims now...
I didn't realize you knew me so well after 3 days in a forum.
You have yet to address a SINGLE quote I've addressed, or point I've made.
You ARE kidding right? Even after I posted an innocent post starting this thread which 90% completely understood, were not offended by and responded to the two questions posed civilly? And after I played your paste/quote HTML format game and went down line-for-line, then (although I didn't have to) apologized for the 10% who may have taken it the wrong way, after you had attacked me personally? In your very first post, before there I had said anything directly or the least bit insulting (and without asking me what I meant, if you were one of the few who didn't get it) you claimed my OP somehow "implied superiority of intelligence and experience" (WTF? That's your inference -- never implied, never asked, just accused) as well as accusing me of being "arrogant, condescending, judgmental" from the start (again, WTF? Again your inference -- never implied or intended) and then your down-right friendly "Welcome Wagon" approach in your VERY FIRST POST to me on this topic without knowing a thing about me, where you said: "get over it; and take your superior condescending bull$hit somewhere else."
no explanation, apology or attempt to be civil
not when each of them is replete with barbs, digs, assumptions, and innuendos.
Right, the "digs, assumptions, innuendos" and attacks you made to me I just quoted above... assumptions about my character and intent from the start, and yet I did apologize just to appease any who found the original post offensive, which clearly most did not.
"open-mindedly gay-friendly" you claim you have been in the past
How about "open minded and gay friendly I am?"
Am? You go off right away attacking, but then 4 pages later saying how you "are" in the past is more important. Actions speak stronger than words. Try SHOWING how "tolerant" you are, not claiming it with past references no one can see or prove. It's like saying: "heck, I know a few black guys and one is a friend" after making a racial slur. Maybe your past is correct, but your immediate impulse to take offense and hurl insults speak much louder and are things people can see.
this is not about a "gay/straight" thing
Huh? Well for all the homophobia and insecure hetersexuality you accuse me, and others of, I'd have thought differently.
Sorry, nice how you left out the rest. What did I say right after that regarding the reason for continued antagonism? Here it is: "(this is not about a "gay/straight" thing). It is about "what you've shown here in telling someone else what they feel and what they intended, even when they explain and tell you it's not so. That is the apex of arrogance to me, but nothing will change you..."
even when they explain and tell you it's not so.
again, I addressed numerous direct quotes of yours; NONE of which you have re-addressed.
Show me a REAL apology; a REAL attempt at being civil; and/or a REAL admission that you MAY have said something that could have been misconstrued.
Sorry again: Re-read post #48. I did EXACTLY THAT, even after your unwarranted accusations and remarks.
Anyway, continuing this banter back and forth with the same 2 or 3 men like m_church or windloverr who insist on defending their personal attacks by claiming they had the right because they were one of the few who decided to interpret my original post that way, tell me what I mean, then still disbelieve me when I both explained (and then even apologized if anyone was somehow unintentionally offended) is pointless. If you insist on continuing to refute my intentions and to insist only you know what I meant and that I am lying and everyone else are the ones who got it wrong, I can no longer help you. However, if you have valid statements that after dozens of lengthy, detailed posts you still think I have not answered or have "avoided" then may I suggest you don't use quotes but instead simply enumerate up to 5 simple points you still want me to clarify and I will gladly respond, instead of saying I have not "addressed them" and then having us hijack pages and pages with lengthy posts like this one. Number them in a simple, short post and I will respond directly to those statements in another short post. Fair?
I'm actually satisfied that most were civil and understood the question and answered it simply one way or the other. After several days of reading the female responses, the results are actually pretty much in line with what I've heard before in my life, even though the first few comments posted in the first couple hours seemed otherwise. Most people know you can actually be straight and (yikes!) have homosexual thoughts, something about which many straight men would rather die than ever admit. Homosexuality has been around as long as heterosexuality (or just sexuality) and in many species other than humans. In many advanced cultures like Greece and Rome they were as common as heterosexuality and accepted norms. It exists, and asking a simple question like mine can be answered either way in the 21st Century without such shock and awe. Nothing is black and white and every person's sexuality is unique in some respect, from who they like, what they like, how much they like, etc.
Revilors is a man, straight, and not at all bi-curious but nevertheless in response to your statement "from your opening topic it read to those males who disagreed with the topic were insecure homophobes maybe if you offered an apology it would ease the tension" he wrote
I read the OP opening post and took no offense at that time. I have re-read it and still don’t feel as though I have been called a homophobe. Although I find the scenario described in the OP’s opening post repulsive…I do not find his verbiage the same.
Edit: No apology needed . (but yet I apologized anyway to those who were so angered and misinterpreted it). So the two outraged posters in this thread do not speak for everyone, to be sure.
I'm also glad to see that there are still guys like ant_doyle and Jean_Jacques who are clearly heterosexual but are still able to not only answer civilly, but understand what I meant in my question and not be the least bit threatened by it. I initially only expected women to answer whether they'd thought about it, and for men to answer if they'd do it in exchange for their woman being with another woman (as in the goose/gander double-standard thing). But they went a step further. Their statements actually show them to be secure and masculine and that they realize that expressing certain thoughts or desires will not change them or who they know they are as people.  | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 3:37:59 PM |
Don't forget, I already pointed out your violent nature and comments and others have seen it too
I have never denied being capable of violence.... some people are, some aren't... I just happen to be...
I challenge you to show me were I attacked anyone personally and directly. I never did and you'll have to do a lot better than explaining you had the right to go off because you chose to interpret my OP one way when it can clearly be interpreted innocently as it was intended and as I explained.
No... you're the type of person who insults a crowd then feigns astonishment that any member of said crowd would feel insulted 'personally'...
You need to go back and re-read how many attacks and insults you hurled before I finally addressed you directly (you made quite a few, and violent ones
Really, I thought there were only one or two times... please be a good fellow and show me where I personally insulted you.... and please be so good as to separate 'attacks' and 'insults'... and also separate them all from before and after I perceived you to be attacking us....
Do you beat your girlfriend too or just "them faggots"? Why do you feel the need to keep reminding everyone that you resort to violence when threatened emotionally? Good way to prove you really are "the man" huh? Shows how straight and secure you are.
Actually, she'd probably beat me up... I don't condone violence against women... never have never will... aside from that.... she's probably more capable than I am... ... and I consider myself quite capable... but she's had more martial arts training than I have....
oh BTW, you do know that you're only allowed to post just so many times per thread don't you? Better use them wisely.... | |
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Posted: 3/24/2009 4:40:19 PM |
Okay, except for the fact that only 2 or 3 of dozens of posters have said they felt I attacked the crowd with my initial post. Wow you like drama and exaggeration (and to keep claiming the same thing over and over, despite how many say the opposite and my numerous explanations and denying that
Speaking of exaggeration:
many women have said they had that fantasy, both openly on here, and in three private messages asserting the same
You never did say anything when I pointed out that only 3 out the first 49 posts agreed with you... when you had claimed lots of agreement....
Unless you are stating that 3 is "many".....
As for the 2 or 3 of dozens of posters felty you attacked them...
Well, we can rule the women out as you attacked the men...
So... in this thread...
Female posters: 40
Male posters...: 21
Of those 21, 5 are in agreement that you attacked the crowd....and at least 1 female poster I noticed that agreed also... although I didn't look for more as I wasn't counting them.... that seems to work out to about 25% of the men... which seems to be a sizable portion especially in that of the others, some may have felt attacked but didn't bother to say so.... but 25% feeling attacked certainly says a lot...
If by your math 3 constitutes 'many' then 5 or 6 constitutes twice as 'many'....
please be so good as to separate 'attacks' and 'insults'... and also separate them all from before and after I perceived you to be attacking us....
WTF? You just said two seconds ago that I "attacked everyone" from the start in my original post in order to defend your attacks on me? Make up your mind, bud. You kill me, LOL I was being sarcastic.... Gee....... | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/24/2009 4:57:10 PM | Nah, I think I'll just let anyone read the entire thread and see for themselves if you 2 or 3 are in the minority and if my initial intention was clear. It is to most people posting here and in my private messages.
But I am glad you admit you were joking, because you did indeed attack me right away, based on my first post. Cheers!  | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/24/2009 5:22:42 PM | Redlance,
Not all male-male activity is "invasive" . You'd be surprised by the number of men who will hug and massage each other, with no intention of penetration. There is a whole range of male-male activity, most of it not being penetration-related. | |
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