| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/31/2009 10:18:36 AM |
I disagree with the drunk and drugged because you actually can be involved in something that you wouldn't be because you have no fight against it. You can speak coherently and you can not control your body to fight against it.
I have heard one too many stories about the guy that got a bj from a beautiful woman to find out that it was a guy the next day when he sobered up and his friends told him...
I have to disagree. I've been drunk off my ass and had something slipped in my drink on top of it and I had girls trying to just make out with me nothing more and resisted to the last second, all the way until my best friend rushed in to find me and take me home safe.
So no, even if drugged and drunk, some people are just not into it. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/31/2009 11:29:47 AM | I think this is more of a guy thing. I am talking about the OP's question about a bj. There is a difference when a man is so messed up he doesn't have what it takes to figure out that he is with a trans or a man dressed as a woman.
(And if you weren't rescued and a guy comes on to you once you have been given stuff, good luck. Date rape happens.) | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/31/2009 12:55:21 PM | Luckily whatever they gave me was really crappy because I never went completely out. I was feeling like death but still fully awake and aware and able to kick some balls if need be.
If youre speaking in regards to a man dressed as a woman or a transexual while drunk, I dont think that counts because at that point of drunk, all women look hot, even those that look like men so I imagine. I dont think that counts.
I thought you were referring to the man on man dressed like man situations. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 3/31/2009 2:24:25 PM | HMMM. Interesting subject PhxNiceGuy. My question to you is. You did this?,Fantasize about this? Or want to do this, but are afraid to. You want an ok to go ahead? I wonder.Usually when one brings up a subject, the person bringing it up wants a confirmation that is ok. Not always tho. Maby just a courious mind? Cool. Some people are just closed off anyways. Personally I wouldn't want to watch, well maby just for a min. How about a Woman wanting to live with two men? I always wonder why it's ok for men to have two or more wife's. But when women are just a s sexual as a man. People get mad. Personally I would want to join in. HA>>> | |
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Posted: 4/1/2009 9:01:16 AM |
I can't remember the last time I got **** faced and decided some experimental c*** sucking sounded tasty;
Well then, you're lucky. That happens to me all the time.
Live and let live is my motto. BUT NO ANAL!!!! | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 7:17:04 AM | The whole notion about being drunk is not that a completely straight man or woman would suddenly be with the same sex. You're missing the point and no one said that (well I didn't).
What people usually mean when they say things like straight men aren't afraid to experiment or will try anything when drunk is that there are so many kinds of sexuality and degrees of interest that any man or woman who has some curiosity (but would never admit to it sober) would be much more likely to if drunk and in a situation where they were relaxed, uninhibited, and attracted (or at least not unattracted) to the person of the same sex making a pass. So yes, it is latent feelings that come out when you drink. The point is, so many people walk around with feelings they won't dare be honest about sober, whether it's sex, a guilty confession or (as with Mel Gibson) inner prejudice.
So if you are gay or bi and you see a woman or man of the same gender you are attracted to but figure it's a "no go" because they are outwardly or seemingly straight, it could be A) They just aren't a stereotype but if you asked them or got to know them they'd tell you they are gay or bi or B) They would never say that sober, but those feelings they've always harbored may come out under some kind of chemical influence or relaxation or C) They are just straight and not interested in the same sex. So all it means is you can't judge someone as straight without absolute no interest in the same sex just because they don't look gay and say they are straight. People's true feelings come out when under the influence or very comfortable (or during a polygraph or in their sleep, etc.).
I used to think if people were gay they looked and acted like the stereotype which doesn't attract or describe me, so I didn't know what to do. Only by the time I was 22 did I first realize that so many I was attracted to and just assumed were "off-limits" (or famous people I may have admired) were gay, bi or something other than 100% straight. I can only speak from experience and the reality is it is the way someone acts or the vibes you get when they are most comfortable rather than what they say off the bat when you meet. The truth is, if you are attracted to the same sex but only the ones who are "straight-acting" and you yourself are "straight-acting" (and you aren't into gay bars) then you have no choice but to use some discretionary tactics and ask certain questions that they'd pick up on if interested, yet be oblivious to if not.
Most gay or bi people aren't stereotypes and you'd never be able to tell up front (everyone probably knows or works with someone gay or bi that they think is straight). There are also some "soft" or effeminate husbands and fathers who are sick of being assumed to be gay when they're not. The gay stereotypes are just the visible ones, not the majority (something I didn't find out until 22). I think the stereotypes have unfortunately given the idea that they are the majority, and by being flamboyant or assertive or in-your-face make "normal" ones want to stay closeted even more and maybe even marry the opposite sex anyway. And if you're "straight-acting" why risk prejudice? Just enjoy the rights or acceptance straight people get. Until it's okay to be born any gender and attracted to any gender with no assumptions, we will just have to go on playing those head games in order to find out.
The fact is that anyone who isn't openly known to have any interest in the same sex and wants to keep it that way will say they are straight. If someone says they're gay though, they're usually telling the truth. It's just the way society has dictated we be about the issue. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 4/7/2009 11:51:32 AM | I have only ever had one girlfriend that expressed an interest like this. I made it clear right away that that wasn't for me. She would have been more than willing to reciprocate - whether or not I would be with a guy. That's not really for me either. We ended up getting some bisexual porn. I was fine with watching it with her, and it really turned her on. But that's what ended up doing us in. She was into, or wanted to be into, a group thing, and I just wasn't the guy to provide that.
On the other hand, I've had several girlfriends who made it absolutely clear that they never wanted a guy who'd been with another guy. Oddly, one of those had fantasies about being with multiple guys herself - but in more of a gang-bang scenario, with no interaction between the guys. She also said it was 100% in the realm of fantasy, and she'd never do it in real life. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 12:24:14 PM | ^^^^ no shyt eh? hmmm...str8 men seem to be rapidly becoming an endangered species....
*sigh*
And in response to the question posted.. um I have no inclination whatsoever to see a guy I am dating engaged in a sex act with another dude...
re bigdadddy:
I can't remember the last time I got **** faced and decided some experimental c*** sucking sounded tasty; it's just not gonna happen. I do have lots of gay friends that really think that most hetero guys are bi, and they prove it by telling me about all the "straight" married guys they've boinked. But I argue that they aren't straight, just really well closeted. I mean, if the idea of another man doing something sexual to you turns you on...at any time, you're not straight. Whether you act on it or not.Simple... end of story.
damn skippy babe.. look at you .. smart n sexy a 2fer... mmmmm | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 12:30:24 PM | Relax man....that was the second time you mentioned how "shocked" you were about a topic today.....Pull a chair up and speak your peace in regards to THIS specific forum and topic, were we won't get banned for discussing sex.Where did you just come from?
POF has people in it that discuss SEX.OMG....get over it and either join in or BEAT
it.If this is too intense for you...and you are "GETTING YOUR DOUBTS"..try the Relationship forum down the hall to the right.
What did you expect when you pressed SEX and SEXUALITY issues?
And wasn't this thread about how if men felt entitled to fantasizing two women together, that women had the right to fantasize about two men together?
Not that anyone had the right to expect people to change thier sexual orientation!
These points get so lost.It's like playing "telephone" with both open and closed minded people!!! Hanging up now. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 4/7/2009 12:56:40 PM |
str8 men seem to be rapidly becoming an endangered species....
Why? Because str8 men are willing to cross some lines they are now not str8?
I think people who say that are homophobic and it sounds as if being straight and open minded should be considered shameful.Sad to me,how people love to look down on others to give thier own choices more value. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 1:14:07 PM | ^^^^
Listen- first of all lighten the f*k up ok? Wtf do you get off attacking people who are citing opnions differing from your own? You attacked the poster before mine.. but if you want to talk shyt to me as well - think twice
Who died and made you hall monitor here!?
Secondly if a so called str8 man "crosses the line"( has sex with another man) he is NOT strait.. what part of that dont you get?
Bottom Line---> we all should honestly embrace our sexual inclinations be it gay str8 or bisexual..
There is NO shame in being who we are as individuals..nobody inferred there should be!.. why do you feel threatened demeaned or insulted if a person is str8?
Because a str8 man does not wish to be with another man, should he de facto be homophobic! There is a vast difference between someone casting aspersions on someones elses sexuality and someone embracing their own sexuality... The only person making moral judgements here is YOU!
So because my orientation is heterosexual and my personal preference is straight men that translates into "looking down" on others? bullshyt
get off your moral high horse...
HEED your OWN WORDS:
get over it and either join in or BEAT it!!
*flush*
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just do what I did and *flush* her inane slatherings....... LMFAOOOOOO | |
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Posted: 4/7/2009 1:22:29 PM | Closer2U:
Nowhere did I say I was shocked! Those are your words! I simply stated that I was curious why so many "gay" themes are on a straight site! I did not say I was even opposed to it. Being a person looking to meet those of the opposite sex, I just thought it was strange there are so many threads dedicated to these subjects. Whatever blows your skirt up! If I went on a gay site, I would be surprised if I saw threads about oral sex with women or sex with women at all! Again, not opposed to it, but I would be surprised, that's all.
Is it not allowed on POF to ask questions?? This is why I ALWAYS include.....
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Posted: 4/7/2009 1:40:17 PM | POF is a straight site??? So is that why you can be a fem seeking a fem or a male seeking a male? cuz it's straight?
And these aren't really 'gay' themes.
it's a site for everyone. gay, straight, transgender, whatever you are.
the forums aren't straight or gay. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 6:23:26 AM | Listen- first of all lighten the f*k up ok? Wtf do you get off attacking people who are citing opnions differing from your own? You attacked the poster before mine.. but if you want to talk shyt to me as well - think twice
Who died and made you hall monitor here!?
Well....isn't that the pot calling the kettle black! wow! You lighten the F*ck UP! OK!You attacked me multiple times in the past few days for having "issues" about men lying to have sex, about str8 men being a "threat to me,and about being sexually abused..and I am here to say... What's your problem? Besides the obivous! You don't like my opinions......WHO CARES~!
If anyone needs some damn anger management....its' YOU...and a having a heart would be a GREAT START.
Secondly if a so called str8 man "crosses the line"( has sex with another man) he is NOT strait.. what part of that dont you get?
Um.....I BEG to differ....am I not allowed to do that when it comes to you?My opinions are as VALID as yours...and you can TRY to intimidate me all you want......I am NOT afraid of you. I know the difference between str8 and GAY.And just because a man likes ANAL....or the taste of his OWN CUM.....does NOT make him gay.Sorry.That is just so far fetched...it's ridiculous.And I am SURE there are ALOT of straight men here.....who would VOUCH for that.Just because you take issue with thier open mindedness.....doesn't mean I do,nor do I have a "PROBLEM" with straight men...But I DO see you as having a problem with GAY MEN...and that's WHY I called you on it.
Bottom Line---> we all should honestly embrace our sexual inclinations be it gay str8 or bisexual..There is NO shame in being who we are as individuals..nobody inferred there should be!.. why do you feel threatened demeaned or insulted if a person is str8?
What I take issue with is YOUR definition of GAY....who made you the definer of all things sexual?
LMAO! When did I EVER say I had a problem with straight men? NEVER...that's when.
I have a problem with people who are closed minded and attack or judge men that are willing to live outside the BOX....KUDO's TO THEM!
You are the one who commented on the fact that str8 men were a dying breed.Not me.
Because a str8 man does not wish to be with another man, should he de facto be homophobic! There is a vast difference between someone casting aspersions on someones elses sexuality and someone embracing their own sexuality... The only person making moral judgements here is YOU!
I NEVER EVER SAID ANYTHING OF THE KIND.That is you trying to twist sh*t to make me look as closed minded as you are! I am not that at all.I defended Str8 men's RIGHTS to not be expected to RECIEVE ANAL SEX just because thier female partner used it as a way to disallow him from enjoying anal sex on HER.So if you want to throw stones...make sure they have some validity.Thanks.
I am NOT making moral judgements of ANY KIND.You on the defensive for some reason, I guess because I called YOU homophobic.So sorry....and twisting my words to suit your own agenda.Which would be from what I can tell....to either Bully me out of here,which you will NOT DO....or make sure that alleged "STR8 Men" know that you have thier backs.
Well...you know what? I have the BACKS and FRONTS........of Str8 men who are NOT GAY.......but enjoy sex that is about as FAR from convention as it get's!
ALL THE POWER TO THEM! And if you bothered to read other posts I have left on the subject..I did DEFEND str8 men's CHOICE to NOT take it up the A$$ is they don't want to.An SAID they were NOT homophobic for thier choices...NOT sure where the hell you are taking your HIGH horse for a ride...but get off MY BACK!
So because my orientation is heterosexual and my personal preference is straight men that translates into "looking down" on others? bullshyt
get off your moral high horse...
Um......that was NOT the point lady...if I can call you that.....after what you have said to me without so much as HALF A heart.....You are WELCOME to your orientation.
I am not judging YOU or that.......What I was noticing about your point was that you don't consider str8 men to have the RIGHT or CHOICE to cross LINES that YOU DEEM GAY!
HEED your OWN WORDS:
get over it and either join in or BEAT it!!
*flush*
Listen.......just because I am closed minded towards closed minded people......doesn't mean I have to HEED YOUR WORDS......sorry.
Damn.....I missed this.NO WONDER you reamed me a new ***hole! LOL
You may have left me in TEARS with your insensitivity...but I am BACK....and I will NOT tolerate you berating me without defending myself again!
And to all the STRAIGHT MEN OUT THERE WHO don't espouse to the guidelines of STRAIGHT in some people's minds......DO YOUR THANG!
There are deviations from the Norm within all "categories"...and I for one...SUPPORT THEM ALL.
Unreal.....but you know what? SEPIA.....I am not some door mat you can walk all the hell over.And I am also not some chicken shit that I won't speak my peace either.
And I certainly don't do it from a judgemental place.I do it from my understanding that we ALL have the right to expect respect....which you are never going to show me.
Oh well. I do know, there are a few men in here.......who I have supported.........that are STRAIGHT....even though YOU deem them gay.And BTW....there are plenty of FISH for you to eat here.....so relax.......really.
i don't WANT the one's you want. LMAO! | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 4/11/2009 9:22:13 AM |
On the other hand, I've had several girlfriends who made it absolutely clear that they never wanted a guy who'd been with another guy. Oddly, one of those had fantasies about being with multiple guys herself - but in more of a gang-bang scenario, with no interaction between the guys. She also said it was 100% in the realm of fantasy, and she'd never do it in real life.
That's the beauty of fantasy. All it ever gets used for regularly is fodder. Some people live them out, but who would bother if each person wasn't totally ok with the proceedings?
Most completely straight guys wouldn't understand why it'd be a turn on fantasy, granted, but who cares? Chances are he's got no requests to let his gf watch him nail a guy in his future.
I think an angry reaction to even the idea that his woman fantasizes about this is pretty much overkill, however.
It always amazes me how angry people get over these topics.. and the women on the last page or so with the sniping amazes me even more. | |
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| How many women fantasize watching their man with another man?
Posted: 4/11/2009 10:25:18 AM |
Nowhere did I say I was shocked! Those are your words! I simply stated that I was curious why so many "gay" themes are on a straight site.
That's the problem. Your assumption that things are "GAY" themed it off.
Is this a straight site? Nope.And that's why I said what I did.And no...it's not any problem at all to ask a question about anything here from what I can tell.Well....unless you ask the WRONG person a question....It's all good.
And my main point was that......being a straight man.....doesn't exclude certain sex acts nor put you into a Black or White category of Gay or Straight.
Wow.........I really don't know why I am fighting this battle.....except to say,I guess I am too open -minded for my own good.LOVE gay men,Love straight men, and Love bi men......and think someone should defend thier rights to define themselves as they wish.If a man like anal sex.....and considers himself Straight.....who are WE to judge?
Uggggggg....Hey what can I say without insulting anyone......... .imo! | |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 10:32:35 AM | It always amazes me how angry people get over these topics.. and the women on the last page or so with the sniping amazes me even more.
Well.....you'd really have to know what went down to understand why I am even bothering to set the record straight.Sniping? I tend to do that when I run into people who say that Men who like anal sex are GAY...no if and's or BUTTS! LOL
But whatever.You missed ALOT.Seriously! And I am sorry to the OP....for taking away from this topic in order to defend my postion and self.......because it is as valid a topic for STRAIGHT MEN to consider.....as it is BI men.
Sex with two men....... bi or straight.......is just another form of pleasure to experience for WOMEN.Not right.Not wrong.Just is.
I am not angry at this topic.....I SUPPORT IT!
Along with women's rights to consider the topic an options without meeting with
UH..NO WAY IN HELL...I am no "FAG".
What I don't support is Homophobia or people who decide what is GAY or not Gay.
And yes.....I am passionate about that! I figure to each thier own...why define it in such black or white terms?
Someone said it best in the ''Good for the Goose' thread.
If straight women didn't judge men for wanting anal play......maybe more would be game....without FEAR of being considered GAY.As if that is somehow.....wrong in and of itself to be gay.
I always defend the underdog.ALWAYS.
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