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 barbee1970

Joined: 12/29/2008
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:36:28 AM
Do you mean strong, outspoken, independent men or LOUD and obnoxious men?

I do not wish to mold a man to cater to my every whim. I think men do that on their own when they get an alpha woman, then they turn around and gripe about it.

I get alot of the loud ones.
 Chitownguy40

Joined: 9/29/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:48:45 AM
Jees, OP, what a MAN you are! Helll, I bet you're Clint Eastwood, Russel Crowe and Ken Shamrock all rolled into one. I can smell the testosterone from here. God, I am impressed.

 Kofi - 68

Joined: 2/20/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:54:19 AM
I just checked and read the OP other postings and responses. The OP is a WOMAN!!! A rare find I should say! Too bad she is no longer around here on PoF.
 Inpune

Joined: 9/12/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:56:39 AM
Op Me thinks you meet more women with much more testosterone then you,
and it bruised your female Ego. What many had strong Characters, they're more
independent outspoken and very opinionated then you dear and scared the hell
out of you.

Are you A Lesbo OP??

Haven'T you heard many women through the laws of evolution have developed a pair
and will not take crap from women or men like you anymore. So Suck it Up sweetheart!
 Spoken For

Joined: 12/26/2007
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:31:21 AM

Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?

They don't scare me, that's my favorite kind of man. Because a man who is truly this way (and not just saying he's that way) WANTS a strong and independent woman, and is not threatened by her abilities or her differing opinions, should she have any.

I don't want a doormat, I want someone who can give as good as he gets! I don't need someone to "mold," I got that out of my system raising my kids. I want someone to come to me with his personality already formed, I don't need a "work in progress" or someone who needs "fixing."

I'm 42 years old, I don't have time for that nonsense in my life.
 makeba

Joined: 9/28/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:35:05 PM

I don't want a doormat, I want someone who can give as good as he gets! I don't need someone to "mold," I got that out of my system raising my kids. I want someone to come to me with his personality already formed, I don't need a "work in progress" or someone who needs "fixing."
I'm 42 years old, I don't have time for that nonsense in my life.

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!! I couldn't have said it better. Thanks Spoken for.
 77Ryan

Joined: 8/4/2008
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:17:45 PM
In my experience, woman love a strong, independant, outspoken man, with the caveat of also being thoughtful, intelligent and polite.

The thing is, alot of men (and women too, to be fair) think they are coming across as some or all of the above. But, are really coming off as bitter, whiny, unhappy, and willing to jump on anyone who disagrees with them like two starving dogs on a soup bone.
 adylia

Joined: 7/21/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:52:03 PM
LOL. This is an excellent question. It depends on how outspoken they are. If the guy comes across as pushy, it's clear that he wants to call the shots, which might be OK sometimes, but not too soon.

I think that a man who sticks to what he believes in is a great catch! Chances are he's not easily swayed (probably more likely to be faithful) but it's only attractive to an extent.

Some men just come off as a threat. It is 2009, women are getting choked, kidnapped, run over and having their kids killed by enraged lovers/husbands. A woman has to look out for herself. If a man is over-doing it in some departments, it's a red flag.

A few examples to consider.

A guy who prefers red wine that suggests why it's better than white wine is sticking to his tastes. A man that orders you red wine without even asking if you can stomach it and insists that you taste the wine, even though you decline, sends the red flag 'This man is controlling, he is not getting through my front door.'

Or an outspoken man telling you that you look lovely and your figure is gorgeous is different than said man telling you what he wants to do to your breasts.

It may not even be as drastic as hoping some guy isn't going to attack you, it might just be that if he is too pushy, it's just a turn off.

Of course, it's a different thing if a man is getting bashed just because he doesn't agree with a woman on something.
 001-100

Joined: 11/1/2009
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Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:37:10 AM
As a woman, I do like outspoken and strong willed guys. I have come across a few "doormats" and needless to say it didn't last.
 moonbeamlover

Joined: 10/26/2009
Msg: 235
Why do Strong, Independant, and Outspoken MEN scare the hell out of the modern-day woman?
Posted: 11/8/2009 8:22:17 AM
I think how they speak is important as well.

Strong is awesome; a bulldozer not so much. Independence again is awesome; closed off loner who avoids intimacy altogether not so much; someone who speaks their mind, KNOWS their mind and fosters the woman knowing and speaking her own? BEYOND awesome...

but those who speak their mind as a bludgeon with no tempered compassion; where it is brutal, in your face truth, know it allishness, and no kindness in the words; is just bullying and, again, being a bulldozer.


so a confident (and comfortable with the woman being confident as well), comfortable on his own AND with his woman man who has developed knowledge and opinions based on constant curiosity in life and a thirst for knowledge, and an ability to communicate and have good dialogue on all levels with someone he considers his equal where they can speak, hear and push each other's boundaries, as well as speak intimacy, feelings and dreams?


As far as I'm concerned, you don't get any better than that. Not only does that not scare me, that is EXACTLY what I want.

In a perfect world, anyways :)
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