|
|
|
|
|
| |
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 8:11:16 PM | Ah, Jerry, I see you've been busily rabidly championing the cause of sadomasochism here as well. Fair enough! What isn't fair enough is...
On a personal note, I don't think anyone wearing that "suit" you have on in your picture should be casting disparaging remarks on the taste / adjustment of others... or did you put that on your profile on a dare?
Whew! Excuse me, I had to pick myself up off of the ground, choking on laughter as I was. My sense of style has been condemned by a sadist. I'm crushed!
Perhaps you feel the suit needed more leather? Some rope perhaps? Inward and outward-facing spikes? I think the other attendees at the party I was at in this picture might have found a ball gag or gas mask somewhat off-putting... | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 9:17:18 PM |
It's probably not a keystone attribute of a well-adjusted person.
Being 5 feet tall isn't a keystone attribute of a normal person, either.
Guess I'm buggered then 5 foot tall AND a masochist WOW I must be the absolute height (hehe!) of maladjustment!!
Green I don’t quite know where your ignorant prejudice for types like me comes from, but take it from me, I am possibly one of THE most well-adjusted people you could care to meet, I have ‘issues’, but unlike ‘normal’ people I am WELL aware of them and confront them.
Being a masochist is not unhealthy, it just means someone is wired differently sexually from you, same as someone that thinks doggy is disgusting and depraved and demeaning to a woman, or some other such ‘normal’ activity.
Having been in a relationship with a man who was verbally, mentally and physically abusive, I can tell you they are not even comparable to a safe, sane and consensual D/s relationship.
Why is it because something doesn’t float someone’s boat they feel the need to demean that person or group of people?! Live and let live huh people?!
To answer the OP – Yes certain aspects of BDSM can enhance any relationship, at the very least, the aspects of honesty you have to practice sexually regarding ‘limits’ etc, makes for something a whole lot deeper from the get go. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 9:30:43 PM |
Whew! Excuse me, I had to pick myself up off of the ground, choking on laughter as I was. My sense of style has been condemned by a sadist. I'm crushed!
Perhaps you feel the suit needed more leather? Some rope perhaps? Inward and outward-facing spikes? I think the other attendees at the party I was at in this picture might have found a ball gag or gas mask somewhat off-putting... What I've gleened from this amounts to "unable to mount any response at all to your actual point, I'm forced to pretent that my ego is intact by attempting an attack on yours"
I am still curious: Where did you get your degree in psyciatry? Oh right, you didn't.
That's OK. You don't need a degree to be right, let me just take a look at your support for your claim.
...
Hrm. It seems you've put up abosulutely no support for your claim at all.
Oh well, let's see how it's useful to the topic
Topic: "Is bondage fun?"
Response: "People into pain are mal-adjusted"
OK. Doesn't really offer anything on the topic either.
In short your post would be useless even if it were credible, but there's absolutely no reason to see it as credible. Sometimes I wonder why people bother posting when they have no idea what they are typing. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 9:31:35 PM | Cut-n-pasted from my post on the other similar topic:
Fear, Pain, Aggression, and Arousal involve basically the same group of chemicals (as does chocolate and cocaine). Because of this, it's quite possible to increase the chemicals associated with sexal arousal by adding aggression, fear, or pain into the mix.
This is basically what BDSM does. It stimulates those other emotional centers in the brain to release (among other things) adreneline and endorphines. The result, for many, is a heightened sense of arousal and increased sexual enjoyment. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 10:06:01 PM |
ITS SOMETHING I HAVE NEVER TRIED WANTED TO KNOW ALOT ABOUT IT,IS IT A BIG THING????
Fine, Have your way with me woman!  | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/18/2007 10:38:36 PM | "Guess I'm buggered then 5 foot tall"
Whatever you're into, baby.
Hey, come on, I meant that as a "5 ft tall man".
I've been twisted since I was twelve. I kept it pretty well hidden until a few years ago, but I finally gave up on trying to change myself and let my marriage die off.
Yo, Green dude, it's not as much fun as you might imagine.
It's actually a pretty damn lonely situation for many men. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/19/2007 3:02:51 AM | Jerryintampa, you are rather simply in the habit of claiming any rational arguement against your hobby is some sort of trickery, usually referencing 'straw men' or other phrases I'm fairly certain you don't understand yourself.
I will commend you for at least offering some variety, whereas Happy1girl and many others use the old 'ignorance' line to write off everyone.
Meanwhile, ace, you're guilty of most of the errors you claim others are making, and another healthy portion are fictional. You're the one who first launched into personal attacks, even.
For the record, I don't mind that so much, as given where you're coming from I find it hilarious.
I've rather decided that you personally don't warrant more than the most passing responses, given your hypocritical and rabid approach is pretty hard to follow, and you often insist on churning so much of it out at one time! It's smokescreen.
So, in parting, you should really visit a 'psychiatrist', which I am not (And given as you can't even spell it I'm inclined to believe you aren't either.) , and figure out what your issues are and how you might manage them without exploiting those with low self-esteem under the guise of increasing brain chemicals and sex games.
Back to Happy1girl...
The creator of the thread asked about bondage, not BDSM.
It's the rabid fans of BDSM who can't stand for bondage, which can be as mild as silk hankerchiefs, to be mentioned without slipping in endorsements of domination/Submission and sadism/masochism that really brought me into this in the first place.
I find this is most commonly done by couching it all into that lovely little acronym.
Most people, and rightfully so I feel, will note the mention of sadism and masochism and as a result sense something wrong.
Which, so far as I am concerned, something IS wrong. It's my right to feel that way, and even say that I feel that way. I can't force that feeling on anyone, and neither can you.
You may think me wrong, but I believe there's probably a very good set of reasons sadists aren't upheld as role models, or examples of well-adjusted people. Masochists, it might be noted, rarely see said treatement either. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/19/2007 4:40:12 AM | Jerryintampa, you are rather simply in the habit of claiming any rational arguement against your hobby is some sort of trickery, usually referencing 'straw men' or other phrases I'm fairly certain you don't understand yourself. OK. Considering the fact that I spelled out the error I had just mentioned, I'm sure you will support the claim that I didn't understand the fallacies I pointed out in your posts with an example.
Hrm. No example again. No support at all. You've simply continued unsubstantiated assertion as your discussion tactic. This seems like a red-herring attempt to make a conversation about me and avoid responding to my points (some reiterated below)
Meanwhile, ace, you're guilty of most of the errors you claim others are making, and another healthy portion are fictional. You're the one who first launched into personal attacks, even. I'm looking for where I've done the errors I've attributed to you (or others) and I don't see it. Again, I'm looking in your post for you to support this accusation and again it's not there. That would appear to support my belief that you are persuing a red-herring.
As to personal attacks, I did not so much accuse you of making them as I did accuse you of using them to distract from the topic at hand.
I've rather decided that you personally don't warrant more than the most passing responses, given your hypocritical and rabid approach is pretty hard to follow, and you often insist on churning so much of it out at one time! It's smokescreen. Do you mean anyone to believe your "your making a smokescreen and that's why I'm not responding to any of the mny slient and supported points you've offered in rebuttal" to be anything but a smokescreen to apologize away your inability to address my points?
So, in parting, you should really visit a 'psychiatrist', which I am not (And given as you can't even spell it I'm inclined to believe you aren't either.) , and figure out what your issues are and how you might manage them without exploiting those with low self-esteem under the guise of increasing brain chemicals and sex games. I'll take this to mean that you cannot support your accusation "They're not exactly keystone attributes of a well-adjusted person", though as has been pointed out, they are not keystones (nor is being 5' tall a keystone).
The creator of the thread asked about bondage, not BDSM. The "B" stands for "bondage". Perhaps the creator of the thread was not being as granular as you believe they were. Do you have support for the statement that other aspects of the "bondage community" were beyond the desired scope?
It's the rabid fans of BDSM who can't stand for bondage, which can be as mild as silk hankerchiefs, to be mentioned without slipping in endorsements of domination/Submission and sadism/masochism that really brought me into this in the first place domination/submission is not part of BDSM. It's odd that you are railing against covering BDSM in response to "Bondage", but are hypocritically more than happy to discuss D/s in response to BDSM.
Most people, and rightfully so I feel, will note the mention of sadism and masochism and as a result sense something wrong. I'll not hold my breath for a statistic, which I'm sure you don't have.
Which, so far as I am concerned, something IS wrong. It's my right to feel that way, and even say that I feel that way. I can't force that feeling on anyone, and neither can you. Yes, you have the right to be both ignorant and wrong; just like NAMBLA, the KKK, and the Aryian Brotherhood.
You may think me wrong, but I believe there's probably a very good set of reasons sadists aren't upheld as role models, or examples of well-adjusted people. Masochists, it might be noted, rarely see said treatement either. You'd be surprised how many "role models" are into D/s and BDSM. Would you like to start religious (pretty much all of them) or secular (not quite all)?
Where did you get your degree in psyciatry? Oh right, you didn't.
That's OK. You don't need a degree to be right, let me just take a look at your support for your claim.
...
Hrm. It seems you've put up abosulutely no support for your claim at all.
Oh well, let's see how it's useful to the topic
Topic: "Is bondage fun?"
Response: "People into pain are mal-adjusted"
OK. Doesn't really offer anything on the topic either.
In short your post would be useless even if it were credible, but there's absolutely no reason to see it as credible. Sometimes I wonder why people bother posting when they have no idea what they are typing. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 3/19/2007 8:23:31 AM |
whereas Happy1girl and many others use the old 'ignorance' line to write off everyone
I didn't write 'everyone' off, just you. Perhaps wrong to use the ignorance word, as perhaps you do have some experience on some level, who knows, all I know is, in your sweeping statement you offended me by umbrella grouping and calling me maladjusted.
The creator of the thread asked about bondage, not BDSM.
Correct, my bad, it was you who bought up BDSM (message 16).
It's the rabid fans of BDSM who can't stand for bondage, which can be as mild as silk hankerchiefs, to be mentioned without slipping in endorsements of domination/Submission and sadism/masochism that really brought me into this in the first place.
No one in this topic mentioned anything further than plain ole bondage until you did, rather presumptuous to assume 'we' would. And why wouldn’t/shouldn’t we anyhow?! We’re all adults here, we all talk/share/recommend things everyday that we think others might enjoy, it’s not a cult we’re trying to recruit members to, so why shouldn’t we talk about it?!
Which, so far as I am concerned, something IS wrong. It's my right to feel that way, and even say that I feel that way. I can't force that feeling on anyone, and neither can you.
Yes indeed it is your right, and it is my right to tell you when I find your opinion of me is offensive.
You may think me wrong, but I believe there's probably a very good set of reasons sadists aren't upheld as role models, or examples of well-adjusted people. Masochists, it might be noted, rarely see said treatment either.
I would imagine that you probably know a lot of sadists/masochists, and quite possibly you do hold them as a role model. Because of prejudice a lot of people keep their desires to themselves, 'we' do function in 'normal' society, don't feel the need to wear leather at every available opportunity, ‘we’ are out there and you just don’t know it! Why? Because we are normal people, it is a part of us, not the be all and end all. Those of us that are ‘out of the closet’ possibly don’t get the respect because of peoples prejudices, I guess we live with that and feel thankful that we are a bit more open-minded about things in this world. | |
|
| |
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 5:06:43 PM | If your just being introduced to it I would probably take it slow. If your with someone who also knows nothing about the subject and is going by sheer exposure to what the media and popular opinion has to offer then I wouldn’t go into it.
you might end up getting hurt.
Here’s a plan
you might want to try out being the one tying the ropes first.
(WINK WINK)
heck it doesn’t even have to be ropes.. a few rolls of saran wrap will do. no one said bondage HAS to be painful Its just a means of giving the other person a sense of control over you. while your immobilized. or vice versa
many people don’t see it as sexual either.. some of the worlds highest executives crave simply to hand over all control to another person.. its both thrilling and relieving at the same time.
There are a lot of respectable books on the subject.
Read up.. and don’t fall for the smut. On websites. Most of that is geared towards people with nothing more than an itchy palm and an over drawn credit card account lol. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 5:36:50 PM | | I would have to say that you are definitly missing out. In my opinion there nothing better than rendering completely control to the person you trust to give you the pleassure you long for. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 7:42:17 PM | Yes, you are, I'm doing some exploring myself and have found what I have experienced thus far to be mind-blowing. Just remember, be safe and do some research, expand your knowledge, and have fun!
To JerryinTampa, YOU ROCK!!!  | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 8:33:38 PM | | Just like everything else in life, it all depends on the individual. I had a gf who was into handcuffs and all that, didn't do much for me. I'd tie her up cuz she enjoyed it, however, she wanted to reverse roles and the thought of being cuffed/tied up/whatever is something I want nothing to do with. She asked, I said no and that was the end of it. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 9:00:59 PM | So where does spanking fit in here? A guy I dated briefly wanted to spank me. I told him no way. He said it was not SM, that it was just spanking for fun, but I was pretty weirded out. What do you all think? Is spanking your lover normal?
Isn't it sadistic? | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 10:27:17 PM | | What's the saying? Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me? something like that... | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/6/2007 10:35:17 PM | | Like people before me have said, it all depends on the person. I for one, really was not sure if I would be into it, but once I tried it, I loved it! However, it depends on the person I am with. There are only 2 people who I have ever been comfortable with doing this, not just because of trust issues, but because they did it just right. So anyway, I guess I can just say, "don't knock it till you try it!" Who knows? You might be able to join our sick and depraved group of abnormal people! (yes, that was sarcasm.. lol) | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/7/2007 6:10:39 AM | Okay..... speaking from some limited experience.
I have read the posts here and it seems the consensus to label a particular type of sexual play immediately as BDSM. What happened to two people simply having fun in the bedroom without the label of a "BDSM" scene?
I have done research, trust me, I have one of those inquiry minds that wish to know ..... and know it all. I have been in chat rooms, read online articles, was in a quasi dom/sub relationship, as well as I have gone to some BDSM luncheons .....and the parameters of that "world" are so great it would be truly impossible to label "all things" as a BDSM activity. It is felt by the majority of true BDSM lifestylers that the "VANILLA WORLD" think everything is BDSM. I have learned - not all things can be painted with that colour of black and blue.
The gammit of intensity in sexual play can range from simply being tied with silk scarves, or rope or handcuffs ....legs and hands and nothing more ... .for the purpose of allowing your partner to sexually play, explore your body, find your reactions to touch etc and do with you as they wish - the one tied, benefiting from the exploration as well as keeping in mind the one doing the playing gets to decide everything - how long the play is, what play is done, what items if any are used to enhance the play etc....So is a scene such as this truly BDSM? I dont know about you but for me that is pretty mild play - not sure the word "BONDAGE" can be used in this scene reference... Does this scene not simply portray two people who are into one another, trust one another, and are enjoying their sexual play? Each of us I think are capable of making that decision but to label it all as such........ hmm not so sure.
Now if one was being tied tightly with restraints both hands and feet, with a leg spreader, nipple clamps and hung from the ceiling for hours on end while the other party occasionally mocks you, humiliates you, and perhaps sexually plays with you but not necessarily, does that refer to a BDSM Scene?
See for me - this is where I might be tempted to refer to this as a BDSM scene - and perhaps be a little too risky and too intense for the likes of me.
If I remember correctly the question initially was, was the OP missing out on a BONDAGE experience? I think the correct answer would be.... depending on what Bondage means to you........it may or may not be something you wish to try. The exchange of power, the intimacy of sexual play, can be very erotic, very intimate and very addictive. As for Labels, perhaps they should be left out of the equation.
Those are my thoughts......... | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/7/2007 7:13:34 PM | | I have been into bondage, humiliation and domination for a few yrs now and love it. Its a huge turn on for me. I love being the slave to men and women. 3 somes or more really get me off. | |
|
| |
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 5/7/2007 9:36:49 PM | from light to hardcore, bondage is hot.
When the trust, intelligence & imagination are there, I'm game | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 8/8/2007 8:20:48 AM | Whips, chains, blindfolds, mouth ties, cuffs, pain, humilation,=mindblowing!
Bondage is my favorite sexuallly. I love the pain, I love being different. But, its not for everyone. Im not into the same ole missionary sex, or all the same old boring love making tactics. | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 8/8/2007 8:31:01 AM | I'm not into the more hardcore versions, but I think toying with the lighter aspects of bondage could be fun!  | |
|
| BONDAGE,AM I MISSING OUT????
Posted: 9/2/2007 7:10:01 AM | But is it socially acceptable? Would you admit your tastes to your friends/family?
I get the impression that being gay has more acceptance.
Second | |
|
|
| Page 2 of 5
|
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
|
Home
login 
