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Posted: 5/11/2009 12:20:11 PM | Have to agree with Dandy - Button's legendary smooth driving ensured he got the best from his tyres.
I missed the race on TV but listened to some of it on 5Live, in particular the team radio instruction from Massa's race engineer for him to turn the revs down or he'd run out of fuel. His response was that he was fighting to hold his position ("What can I do?" were his words), seemingly ignoring the fact he could (and did) fail to finish the race and end up out of the points altogether.
Not like him at all, but yet another feck up to add to the growing list at Ferrari. Yay! | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 12:45:00 PM | | Rubens is under pressure, probably due to his age, and knowing this is most likely his last chance to win the championship. Next year with the money restrictions will anybody want an expensive 37yr old when im sure team bosses are looking for younger and cheaper drivers. If roles were reversed would jenson be whinging? I dont think he would. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 12:47:47 PM | Jayeff....
Massa did collect points he crossed the finish line just did'nt make it back to the pits once race over. Ferrari should of told Massa to let Vettel pass much earlier, but nobody on the pitwall had the gumption too make that call. If they had done Massa would of finished5th not 6th, as he was far enough ahead of Alonso to have coasted around,instead of crawling around with 4 laps to go giving Alonso more than enough time to catch him.
Im glad they didnt cant stand ferrari. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 1:00:55 PM | Thanks for the correction, Dandy - that'll teach me to listen to/watch the full race and not rely on workmates for post-race reports!
It'd be just fine and...er...dandy...to see Brawn continue the fairytale story and end up 1 & 2 in the championship after coming so close to not even starting the season. Rubens can have the odd win by all means - nice chap - but JB to win. He deserves it for all the hard hours in dodgy broom-brooms he's put in without complaint. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 3:36:47 PM | Button took some stick a few years ago, being young , brash and opinionated ( is that what makes a good grand prix driver ? )
He has matured a lot, took a pay cut to drive for a team and car he had faith in and it is paying dividends,
Hamilton could take notice, IMO. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2009 4:58:03 AM | | Howled with laughter at martin brundels mistake about geri haliwell being bernies daughter!!! Lmao come on jenson!!! | |
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Posted: 5/24/2009 8:59:06 AM | | Flawless drive from Button thats 5 out of 6 now - surely the championship is 'on' now ? | |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 9:49:37 AM | Is the braun dream ending? Poor massa being knocked out at over 120 mph!! Thought qualifying today was poor due to the times going down grr should be interesting with alonso on poll.
edit, was a bit funny with jenson swearing, naughty boy lol | |
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| Grand prix 09 thread
Posted: 7/25/2009 10:18:05 AM | I agree, the timings going down was annoying after waiting so long for the 3rd session to start. I did find it funny watching Alonso asking every driver what their lap time was so he could work out if he'd secured pole. He knew his car was fast as Jordan said he arrived to the track this morning stating that he would be on Pole tomorrow.
Glad to hear that Massa is doing okay.
As for Braun, I hope they can get the momentum back as it's been a fantastic F1 season upto now. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:38:32 AM | The Massa incident was nasty, echos of Senna and Surtees in the debris involvement... I was amazed at how hard he fought unconsciousness so as to control the car and bring down his speed to survivable.. He's fractured his skull and will need surgery, yet he held it together as long as possible...
Button said a very rude word didn't he.. Tee hee... I thought it hysterical to see the drivers running around asking 'What time did you get?' So funny...
Brauns are going to have a tough second half of the season aren't they.. I hope Jenson can hold it together... | |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 10:51:04 AM | That was some shocking crash of Massa's, it is being reported that he has suffered a skull fracture just above his left eye.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/25/felipe-massa-fernando-alonso-hungarian
I had to laugh at Jensen Button's comment when Alonso told him his lap time, it went something like "Fooking Hell" | |
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| Grand prix 09 thread
Posted: 7/25/2009 10:55:28 AM | Yeah the remainder of the season looks like its going to be very close. I just get the feeling that the Red Bulls cars are a lot quicker than the Brawns. I was really happy for Webbers win the other week. He had a fantastic weekend in Germany.
I'd not heard about Massa's fracture. He did really well to control the car under the circumstances. I hope he has a speedy recovery. | |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:13:10 AM | | Bloody hell was surprised his skull was fractured there as assumed the helmet would of been more protective? Yes i know it was a feckin fast at the time but considering the potential head injuries etc ... | |
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Posted: 7/25/2009 11:43:18 AM | ^^ I think they need to have a rethink of helmet structure and general safety (not dumb speed reducing tactics either).. Senna died from a penetrating wound caused by debris puncturing the helmet... Surtees' death was caused by a flying wheel. What happened to the tethers that are supposed to keep the wheels attached to the vehicle?
Now we have Massa, another serious head injury that could have very easily been fatal..
The safety of these drivers is already paramount and the adaptations made in recent years have improved safety a thousand fold.. The****its are practically indestructible but I do think the helmets need a revamp.. | |
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SyMac
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:36:04 PM | Enjoyed todays race although I'm glad that I'm not a member of the Renault pit crewe after the major error with Alonso's front left tyre. Such a shame after he was so confident going into the qualifying. At least noone was hurt because of it.
Also though Webber was lucky with the pit lane incident as it could have been a lot worse. | |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:48:49 PM | | i saw a picture of massa and the damage that caused, the fear in his face was frightening. Lets hope he is ok, the chances of that happening like the one that killed henry surtees just seem so remote, there but for the grace of god me thinks! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 5:51:14 PM | just reading this, i read so many profiles about women liking formula one and im sure alot of them put it on there to get a man interested, would i get a response if i put on my profile i like shoes and george clooney??
be interested to see how many women write on here | |
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| Grand prix 09 thread
Posted: 7/26/2009 6:12:52 PM | | Yeah the last week has really brought to mind the fact that motor racing really can be a dangerous sport. So it kinda made me laugh when I herd the commentators on the darts coming out with comments that the darts players were some of the best sportsmen today. I'm sorry but I just dont see darts as a sport! | |
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Posted: 7/26/2009 10:07:59 PM | Hamilton's win was a welcome return to the podium for McLaren. Has Whitmarsh been fortunate in taking over McLaren as it rises again - or was Dennis the reason why it was so poor at the start of the season?
How lucky has Button been, having the car set-up and ready at the start of the season - or maybe, how lucky that Brawn was prepared to go with a car straight out of development and not having been tested? Not sure what happened to Rubens yesterday, but it will be very sad if the whole team's performance is going back to woeful.
What on earth is the sport going to look like next year? No refuelling, no Kers and no track changes - there are so few chances for overtaking on the current circuits that without the pit stops I fear that a race will be just a procession. Either that or the start will go back to being the metal carnage it used to be.
Formula One - but not as we know it?
would i get a response if i put on my profile i like shoes and george clooney??
Who's George Clooney?
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Posted: 7/26/2009 11:19:37 PM | ^^ I prefer the idea of no refuelling during the race.. I hate races being won and lost on strategy, let's get the overtaking happening on track, not off...
Kers has been very hit and miss with a lot of the drivers disliking the system and it not providing quite the 'boost' it was intended to...
We shall see..... | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 12:36:32 AM |
Bloody hell was surprised his skull was fractured there as assumed the helmet would of been more protective? Yes i know it was a feckin fast at the time but considering the potential head injuries etc ...
From what I hear the main body of the Schuberth helmet was intact, and did "protect" .. however the spring hit Massa in the helmet "opening", if you like, ripping off the visor in the process - his fracture was just above the left eye.
He is a very very lucky boy, his injuries - whilst serious - could have been absolutely horrific if the spring end had caught him IN the eye ... | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 12:42:03 AM |
From what I hear the main body of the Schuberth helmet was intact, and did "protect" .. however the spring hit Massa in the helmet "opening", if you like, ripping off the visor in the process - his fracture was just above the left eye.
It seems incredible!
A piece of metal hits a man in the face whilst he is travelling at over 100mph, and he isn't killed?
Lucky, lucky man.......and best wishes for his speedy recovery. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 12:45:57 AM | I think he has to just count himself lucky he is still alive.
I wouldnt say im the greatest of F1 fans but i think its a sport which is in danger, people watch it for excitment, overtaking etc and if you take that away then you dont have a great deal. Is Button the best driver in the world? i like the fella but not sure he is world champ material and when you look at the people that have been world champ, the characters and people that were the best drivers in that era, you have to be careful not to make a mockery of it.
Personally i would do away with the constructors championship, everyone has the same car and they battle it out that way. | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 12:51:44 AM | He's had a piece of bone removed from his eye socket which was the injury from the initial impact, this caused some brain injury behind the fracture site and of course the swelling and risk of permanent brain damage is of immediate concern... But as far as I can ascertain the main long term concern was the skull base fracture or occipital dislocation (internal decapitation)... Basically his head was pulled off his neck... .. The far reaching ramifications of such an injury are huge with regards to motor skills and regularly cause instantaneous death...
I am sure he'd rather lose an eye than be paralysed for life.... His injuries are still being described as life threatening, although he is making passive responses to stimuli and is beginning to move his hands and feet... It will be a while until we discover just how badly Massa's future has been affected by this crash...
I wish him all the best, I've always liked Massa, even if he did choose to drive for The Dark Side...
EDIT*... Will we see the introduction of a Pope Mobile style bullet proof bubble being an enforced addition in the 2010 season?? It always seemed to work for Dastardly and Mutley!!?? | |
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Posted: 7/27/2009 12:53:22 AM | I don't think many things will withstand a one kilo high tensile suspension spring being fired at it at 150mph! there will always be an element of danger in the sport no matter how safe you try to make it, especially open c0ckpit racing. Ironically Massa himself was calling for lessons to be learned from the Henry Surtess incident only days before his own accident.
All of the improvements made to c0ckpit design in recent years are propbably the reason Massa still has his legs. He's one of my favourite drivers i've always loved watching him race from his lairy days at sauber to becoming the complete driver he is today thanks to a little help and mentoring from a certain german seven times world champion and i was gutted for him when he lost out on the championship last season, i thought he deserved it. | |
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