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| I will OBEY you???
Posted: 6/29/2005 3:22:41 PM | Wedding Vows
During the wedding rehearsal, the groom approached the pastor with an
unusual offer.
"Look, I'll give you $100 if you'll change the wedding vows. When you
get to me and the part where I'm to promise to 'love, honor and obey'
and 'forsaking all others, be faithful to her forever,' I'd
appreciate it if you'd just leave that part out." He passed the
minister a $100 bill and walked away satisfied.
It is now the day of the wedding, and the bride and groom have moved
to that part of the ceremony where the vows are exchanged. When it
comes time for the groom's vows, the pastor looks the young man in
the eye and says:
"Will you promise to prostrate yourself before her, obey her every
command and wish, serve her breakfast in bed every morning of your
life and swear eternally before God and your lovely wife that you
will not ever even look at another woman, as long as you both shall
live?"
The groom gulped and looked around, and said in a tiny voice, "Yes."
The groom leaned toward the pastor and hissed, "I thought we had a
deal."
The pastor put the $100 bill into his hand and whispered back, "She
made me a much better offer."
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| I will OBEY you???
Posted: 6/29/2005 3:25:11 PM | | Personally ~ I love the word from the right person. I was born in the wrong time, I've always known that. I have written wedding vows for people who have thought differently, It should reflect your own ideals of what your relationship is. You don't want to know what my feelings are...some may even say i am hypocritical, I'm not . it is exactly why I am here | |
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| I will OBEY you???
Posted: 6/29/2005 4:11:07 PM | | I'm with Lady Tigris, a spanking administer correctly can be fun. lol And obeying can be fun too. It's all in how you look at things. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 4:30:00 PM | | A lot of places let you write your own vows. From my experience, lots of folks don't follow the "love, cherish, honor, 'til death do us part" version, either. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 4:32:44 PM | | What reason would there be, in love, not to obey? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 9:53:31 PM | If you're getting married in a church, hypothetically you're a member of that church. If it is a Christian church and you are a Christian, then you should know that a woman is expected to be obedient to her husband. If you don't follow that doctrine you have no business being married in that church as they are not community meeting halls, but a place of worship for that particular faith. if that fiath doesn't follow Biblical doctrine then all bets are off, of course.
1 Peter 3
1. In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives,
5. For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive to their own husbands;
7. You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.
8. To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit;
1 Corinthians 7
2. But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband.
3. The husband must fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.
4. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
This last is where the "obey" comes into play....
Of course if you know more than God or are not a Christian, then feel free to write your own vows as it is basically just a legal contract unless sanctified by the church.
"I, the party of the first part, do hereby contact with Matilda, the party of the second part...." | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 9:58:26 PM | (barbie wrote:) "So there are still men who treat women like children."
That's because so many women ACT like children: bratty, petulant children. That sucks. When I was managing people there was a theory that "if you treat them like adults they act like adults. If you treat them like children they act like children."
With guys that seems to be the case. I can't say the same is true with women in general. the trick is finding the one(s) who WANTS to pull her/their own weight. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 10:05:55 PM | | Stick a gem in your navel and call him, "Master". Maybe you can revive yet another 60s TV sitcom for our reality-show addicts. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 10:26:31 PM | When I got married way back when....in a church....both the man and women vowed to obey, yes it was stupid.
Whatever the words are, they should in some way imply committment to the union. Perhaps something along the lines of: "...promise to do my damb best to make this thing work"...lol | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 2:57:55 AM | I understand you and agree with what you're saying.
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Posted: 6/30/2005 3:26:50 AM | I think it is a misconception of where in the bible it teaches women to be subservient to women BECAUSE men are told to love his wife MORE than the Lord... So if your husband loves you as much as and more than the Loard then obviously his word is true and has good intensions.
it gets taken out of context and many narcissistic men use it for their own gain... 
I would not say that to my future husband as I believe in partnership. Yes, you have to give the wand over to your partner sometimes... but to obey as in parental roles... no way jose! | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 4:25:18 AM | | I must say that I don't agree with the whole "obey" thing, either. But I also think that we take that word way out of context. It didn't originally mean that the wife had to do everything her husband told her to...How can I put this? It's a bit hard to explain...There's a big difference between the word "obey" and "submit", and the two have been confused. "Submit" does not mean that the woman has to go along with everything her husband says. It means she must have respect for him. That, to me, is a lot easier. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:06:42 PM | | Way way back when, the word obey did in fact mean just that, Obey. Women had no rights and were expected to be subservient to the man. Religions taught thats how things must be. It is really amazing just how far things have progressed in the last centuary years on so many fronts. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:10:12 PM | hehehehe,,Indi?? Meet one "hell of a man"! Now, OBEY ME! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:11:40 PM | | obey ???????? ya right... don't let the door hit yer a$$ on the way out ! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:16:05 PM | Country, you women are hell on wheels! I love it! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:34:45 PM | | Yes, Meow, Bible teaches mutual submission. Husbands should love their wives and both parties should submit to each other out of love. Husband should be spiritual and Christian leader in home, and should exercise priesthood in home. Lord God and Jesus is over all and all submit to the Lord. Trouble is, families are disfunctional. Wives rebel and so do husbands. The Christian order in the home today in a lot of families is out of wack. Unless Christ is head of the home, both parties to a marriage will probably fail. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:36:29 PM | | So far, I see little in the way of this POF site of people who want to do things God's way. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:47:04 PM | No saying the *G* word here.. c'mon now...
this is relationships... not religion..
OT...
Obey? only in dom/sub.. Domme/sub relationships for me...
runs thru the thread nekkid
Streakerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 1:48:30 PM | OH please! not this chickey!
runs nekkid through the threads..............
streak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 2:31:53 PM | The only way I'm obeying anybody is if he proves he's right 90% of the time about everything. If I prove I'm right more often about more things, he oughta obey me instead, as my judgment is better than his. Really, though, its preferable to have an adult/adult relationship instead of one person taking the parental role and the other that of a child - as shown on most sitcoms where the husband is portrayed as a helpless oaf, etc.
I'm for marriage vows promoting equality as presumably people respect one another or they wouldn't be getting married. Perhaps the definition of obeying is taking a serious interest in the spouse's wants/desires/preferences (such as, "she doesn't want me to look at other women, so if I want domestic harmony, I won't do it in front of her", and "He'll freak out if I go wild with credit cards at the mall"). If you truly give a hoot about keeping your partner in your life, you'll automatically "do as they wish" because you love them and wish to please them, in theory at least. But having to swear to do it during a marriage ceremony smacks of insincerity - either you truly feel that way about them or you don't, you can't fake it for long. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 4:49:00 PM | | I think the obey line is a stupid line and shouldn't be in marriage vows. Apparently it was left behind from some backward time in history. Marriage vows should get real and toss that line into the past where it belongs. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2005 6:44:34 PM | | I don't think there is anything wrong with the word obey. To me it means to comply and listen. What's wrong with complying and listening to your husband? What's wrong with taking guidence from your husband? As long as he isn't telling you anything wrong, I don't see a problem with it. | |
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