| | Problem With The Yankees?Page 8 of 9 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9) | The problem?..................is with their management!
1. Weak pitching--failure to get a solid pitcher & reliever in the off-season.
2. Spotty hitting--and few clutch performers.
Cashman & Hank Steinbrenner have a lot to answer for , in neglecting a proud 2009 championship team!!!
Shame on the both of you!!!!
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Posted: 10/22/2010 9:30:12 PM | with the real steinbrenner gone, i'll give the yankess one more year in contention.
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Posted: 10/23/2010 11:42:55 AM | | well not that I can get into boring baseball I am always happy when the yankees get beat no matter who's doing the honors. In this case congrats to the Texas Rangers! If ever there's anytime to win your first series why not do it against the best team money can by but not necessarily the best team playing.... | |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 10:32:34 AM | | I'm not sure that you can blame George's sons for the Yankee's problems, they still made the playoffs, which is very hard in baseball. If you can remember George Steinbrenner was also the owner in the early 80's and they were the laughing stock of the American league East, Detroit, Baltimore and Toronto were the contenders, the Yankees had the highest payroll, but were the celler team. The 70's and late 90's they were the best team in baseball, but most of the 80's they sucked. In the off season as usual they'll go to the bank and probably will succeed again in BUYING another World Series. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 7:32:53 PM | ^^^
I'm not sure that you can blame George's sons for the Yankee's problems,
They (along with brian Cashman) have to take the Lion's share of the blame...for tinkering with world-championship chemistry they had in 2009.....they were too clinical in their decision making during the off-season!
If you can remember George Steinbrenner was also the owner in the early 80's and they were the laughing stock of the American league East,
the Yanks sucked then for the same reason the Mets suck now........bad player combos, bad chemistry, bad managing..........and a poor farm-system in the late 70's and early 80's!
the Yankees had the highest payroll, but were the celler team.
...then how can you say that they "BUY" themselves the WS championships?.....Given the amount of money they have spent on players...they should have won the WS every year!........they haven't and that shows that payroll does not (and never will) correlate with how many WS a team wins!
In the off season as usual they'll go to the bank and probably will succeed again in BUYING another World Series.
This shows your ignorance in that you've contradicted your own position! | |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 7:33:51 PM | | The world series can not be bought or sold. It can only be played for. Riddle me this if every major league player made one dollar, who would you want to play for. The pinstripes are worldwide. The Yankee tradition as corny as it sounds is real. The team makes money and spend it on its employees. Why play in the backwoods when you can play in the big city. Who wouldnt want to put on the uniform that The babe, the mick, yogi, reggie, jeter. If you want to blame anybody blame mlb 3 world series games in November. Money talk. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:06:49 PM | | Nothing excites me more than to see the Yankees get beat out of the playoffs, especially with all the money they have spent. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:04:04 AM | | the yankee media there had all but given up early in the rangers series. the headlines read in a ny newspaper " yankees limp home trailing 1 to 1". | |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:51:19 PM | | The Yankees didn't have the highest payroll in the 80's and that's why they didn't win any world series in the 80's, I don't know where I "contradicted my own position" , but let's face it most seasons the team with the highest salary will win the world series, there are some exceptions, but very few. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 5:23:56 PM | @ Pick
If you don't know where you contradicted yourself then allow me to show you:.
you said: (see below quote)
in the early 80's and they were the laughing stock of the American league East, Detroit, Baltimore and Toronto were the contenders, the Yankees had the highest payroll, but were the celler team.
NOW you say: (see below quote)
The Yankees didn't have the highest payroll in the 80's and that's why they didn't win
The KEY wording in both of these quotes is: "in the 80's"..............so in the first statement you say that the Yanks had the highest payroll (in the 80's) but were a cellar team...........SO, THAT PROVES, that having the highest salary does NOT win WS titles.............in the 2nd stated quote, you do a whole 180 degree turnaround, and contradict yourself fully!....thereby making yourself look like a horse's azz!
let's face it most seasons the team with the highest salary will win the world series, there are some exceptions, but very few.
"very few"???........how about if i give you a list of teams since 1990 that won the WS with a team salary under 100,000, 000!
1. Reds--1990
2 Toronto--1992 & 1993
3. Marlins--1997 & 2003
4. Arizona--2001
5. Angels--2002
6. Wsox--2005
This doesn't count the 2 teams in the WS in 2010, both fall under the same cut-off! | |
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Posted: 10/31/2010 1:02:17 PM | | thanks I didn't realize that I had contradicted myself. I don't think the management of the Yankees is the problem because George was the GM in the 80's and had the highest payroll and still the Yankees sucked, it wasn't until the mid 90's that they started to be back in the elite part of the league that they were in the 70's. I do hope that MLB does use a salary cap so that all teams have a fair chance. | |
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Posted: 10/31/2010 3:22:10 PM |
I do hope that MLB does use a salary cap so that all teams have a fair chance.
This is a myth......salary caps do not give teams a fair chance, they just artificially create parity (as it is done in the NFL)........this topic of salary caps has been discussed at lenght in this very thread.........if you wish, you can go back starting from msg 130 up to the ones from this year........................and besides, most MLB owners don't wish to have salary caps! | |
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Posted: 11/2/2010 8:23:40 AM | | Most owners are business men. They have a simple formula Revenue minus expenses equal profit. They yankees create a lot of revenue. They overpay for talent.(I'll admit that). The fans get to profit off of this. They put on a show every year. They bring out the best in their opponents. (Texas). When we fail money cant buy championships. When we succeed money brought the championship. If your team wants to pocket their millions plus the tax money. Tough. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2010 8:11:35 PM | | Yanks wrap up deal with Jeter.........now its on to more important matters in that they need to get some pitching....After Mo is re-signed!...Lee is next on the list! | |
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Posted: 12/8/2010 7:00:24 PM |
problem with the yankees? THE TEXAS RANGERS HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA...my Azz!...........Yanks make formal offer to Lee---> ~150mil X 6 years.....with that paycheck, he'll be able to buy every 2 bit town in Texas, and use it as his personal toilet, when he's passin thru! | |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 6:33:28 PM | it kinda feels like christmas eve waiting to see what santa was gonna bring ya.i had alot presents when i was a kid, all of us kids did. it was always so beautiful waking up on christmas morning and seeing all the gifts.
i wonder if that will be the case tomorrow morning when lee (being santa) has signed with the rangers. it would be a nice christmas present.
tonights the last meeting the rangers will have with lee. a decision by him could be made by morning. finally the rangers make an offer for 6 years then the yankees go 7.with pettitte retiring or on the verge the yankees are more desperate than anybody else. problem with yankees, they use money to lure players who are a threat to them. problem with the yankees they live alot on their past. they can go back a long way, the 20's,30's 50's and 60's teams were great. but one day in my lifetime their money is gonna run out.
problem with yankees in getting lee, theres always the case that it could be another team, besides the rangers.
there is a bright side if lee doesnt sign with the rangers. alot of money saved and there are other players available. lee has been with 4 teams in 1 year. lee hit the hott streak last year after joining the rangers. lee did not attend the winter meetings. he instead went hunting with his ranger buddies.
right now you have to give the frontrunner to the yankees. money and who wouldnt walk away from that. i wish the yankees luck and look forward into seeing them next year.
but lee really doesnt want to face his ex foes does he? | |
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Posted: 12/13/2010 10:44:12 PM | News Flash
Lee signs with the Phillies..................for far LESS money than he was offered by the Yanks or Texas!!!
I'm not too surprised that he didn't sign with the Yanks, as not everybody can make it in NYC (look at AJ Burnet--to name just one)........But for him to turn down the Ranger's offer( which was almost as good as the yank's) in favor of the Phillies, well that had to feel like a kick in the balls for the Ranger's organization & their fans!
at least Lee won't be in the AL next season!..........but the yanks will now have to see if they can get a decent pitcher in a trade........they'll have to put some of their outfielders on the trade block, otherwise they gotta hope nobody gets hurt and that AJ Burnet has a miracle of a season next year! | |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 7:07:56 AM | sum, besides Burnett, do you recall a guy named Ed Whitson? Another guy that could not pitch in NY but did great elsewhere.
Who knows, maybe Lee just missed swinging the bat! On paper, it sure gives the Phillies the best rotation in baseball! | |
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Posted: 12/14/2010 9:29:25 PM | do you recall a guy named Ed Whitson? Another guy that could not pitch in NY but did great elsewhere.
that going back a while, but yeah....that's another example.....Randy "big unit' Johnson was supposed to be the new savior when they signed him...but he flamed out too!
maybe Lee just missed swinging the bat!
hardly!....when you consider the deal he got in Phily......120 mil / 5yrs=24 mil/yr...to the Yank's 150/ 7 yrs = 21 mil/yr.....................you've got to factor in the tax situation...in NY, he'd be paying about 7-8 mil/yr in local, state, fed......but in PA he'd pay way less.........................so when you add it up he'd probably make just as much in 5 yrs in PA than in 7 at NY.
IMO, there's more money being given behind the scenes to sweeten the deal...why else would the Phils have been bidding secretly! | |
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Posted: 12/15/2010 8:24:45 AM |
Lee signs with the Phillies..................for far LESS money than he was offered by the Yanks or Texas!!!
Smart move by Lee as the average pitcher in the NL usually throws less pitches in a game than the AL pitcher. With less wear and tear on him it will prolong his career. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2010 2:02:29 PM | | Thanks Mr. Lee i dont see spending all that money on a 32 yearold who wouldnt pitch games 1,4,7 like a true ace would. ( Its been documented he wanted to go games 1 and 5) Im sure Nolan Ryan was not happy with that. I as a Yankee fan want to see them go the early 90's route and see the next core 4 emerge. No matter what we do we will be hated and our own media will lead the lynching. Be patient Cashman. Let the kids grow up. If we have any. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2010 2:29:42 PM | not a yankee fan...
but with all that said....Yankee fans would sure be happy throwing Sabitha, and Lee back to back in a playoff series....Redsox best team in the league..they went all out that is for sure..Yankees will be fine, but having Sabitha and Lee sure would have made a difference....
Now as a Rockie fan I have to deal with Lee in the national league.... | |
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Posted: 12/15/2010 8:12:57 PM | yanks will eventually overcome the "loss' of Lee, but it may take time.........Remember that the yanks made the postseason this year and won the WS last year with basically the same pitching staff...the management realizes the vulnerability of the pitching but they have only themselves to blame, as they pizzed away a good opportunity in the 2009 off-season to get someone decent.......They skipped over Lackey because they felt he had issues, but they looked too far ahead (at a possible trade to get Lee) and lost out on various other good opportunities...instead they picked up J. vaszquez (a former yank) a known choker, who has now been cut......they'd love to do the same to Burnett but he's tied to a big contract------> the Bottom line is that they did nothing to shore up the weak foundation when they could have!..................Now they have to look at putting some outfielders on the trading block, in order to get a starting pitcher.......and there is no assurance that it will happen the way they want.........Buerhle (white sx) would be such a pitcher, they'd be aiming for!
Redsox best team in the league.
^Pure BS!...On paper, the RS were supposed to win the ALE in 2009 & 2010......in 2009 they held 1st place 2/3 of the season and then petered out.......in 2010, they were outta the race by the end of July...........their pitching has still not fallen in place, though they did have many injuries...............as does the relief pitching...yeah they got Gonzalez (a NL hitter), who has to adjust to the superior AL pitching........but Crawford is solid!
On Cliff lee:
CL is a smart guy,... much smarter than most players! ........lee knows his limitations...he knows he'll do far better in the NL than in the AL.......while its true that he preferred Philly, its untrue that he "walked' away from 25-30 million $$$.......CL is getting basically the same amount, in different distributions, his agent used the yank's offers to bolster other offers.......Lee had no intention of staying in Texas, because he knew the owner (who seems to be an idiot) would do to him what they did to A-rod.......That is, they'd look to get rid of the higher priced players (to make up for Lee's)...which would have resulted in a team losing its competative edge!
The real losers:
1) texas rangers--who could not hold on to him, even tho he lived in nearby arkansas..........Lee just dusted them off!.......Had it been between Ny & Texas, he'd be wearing pin-stripes right now!
2) Most of the teams in the NL east--who will have to compete against what might be the best pitching rotation in that group!...........The NY Mets ( a team with flimsy pitching), must be having themselves a good cry right now! | |
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Posted: 12/19/2010 6:31:15 PM | | best part about it all was beatng the yankess. wasnt that fun now."Yea ok Now".ranger management making me say uncle "UNCLE" dam that hurts. UNCLE dam how many times do i have to say it. the rangers are gonna depend more on their farm system "UNCLE" WHO HOO. WE BEAT THE YANKEES WOO WHO | |
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