| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/3/2009 5:29:51 PM | | I don't do illegal drugs never have, and, never will. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/6/2009 7:16:32 PM | i think doing drugs can be forgiven if you're a teenager experimenting a couple of times with weed but when you get older there's no excuse whatsoever. doing weed or any illegal drugs will eventually land you in a place where you'll have plenty of time to think about the errors of your ways.
doing drugs is unpatriotic and unamerican. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/6/2009 8:00:04 PM |
doing drugs is unpatriotic and unamerican. You crack me up with the shit you come up with. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 2:25:23 AM | I don't do them.
But have MANY neighbors who pretty much always have to be on something. If it ain't pot, it's oxycodone or over-using pain killers or muscle relaxants, or crushing up and snorting each others' prescriptions then crying to the doc that they ran out. If they do happen to come into money, they're out getting street drugs - meth usually.
They just happen to also be losers. Always in trouble with DCS, DHS or the courts in some manner. Couple have had their kids taken away more than once and always get them back. One got arrested for breaking into a dead person's apartment to steal his RXs. None of them seem to ever have money - except to buy their drugs, so they feed their kids interesting stuff for dinner. Like toast with peanut butter. They have many anger issues. Their kids run rampant and terrorize or trash the neighborhood - and those are the "nice" kids (no parental supervision - they're inside - doing their drugs.). Of course this is all probably just particular to these neighbors. I'm sure NONE of this is going on anywhere else in the world. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 1:14:51 PM | I personally don’t have any desire to take any illicit drugs. Also I consume very little alcohol as I derive no enjoyment from being drunk. All dugs weather illicit or legal are a form of poisoning and it is there toxicological effect is what gives people a high or treats an ailment. But all drugs carry unwanted side effects that have to be considered and weighed against the benefits. I have seen enough people that have been rewind by drugs. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 1:57:23 PM | Wow...
That took about 1/2 hr to read the whole thread, but as I did I gained some respect for the patience of the posters despite the OP's continual diatribes with little to no real merit for his cause.
This is a contentious issue because of the generalizing and stereotyping that is rampant in sheeple. A lot of people will believe almost anything the hear or read because they lack the backbone to QUESTION it....
I will give the OP one fraction of credit for his vehemence on the topic... I would liken this OP to a pit-bull lock jawed on his own opinion. I wonder however if he has any real concept of how he appears to anyone here that has the ability to think for themselves.
I have YET to see how the OP can substantiate his distaste of mary-jane through witnessing some horror or other at the hands of someone who puffed a blunt?? Did the girl piss him off because she decided the only way to deal with the date was through a mood altering substance... I laugh at the thought of this poor girl thinking.. "oh shit, I better make something out of this evening, where is that roach???
Dude, you have made a fool of yourself in this thread and if you wish to redeem yourself in any way, maybe you could come up with an argument that really shows what the harm of marijuana use is?
I would suggest that masterbating creates some sort of pleasure in ones head.... not unlike a buzz from a drink, or a puff off a joint... and it is LEGAL... but DAMN i wouldn't want to see that happening everywhere.
LIGHT(en) UP.
Weed is here to stay. It is not harmless, but neither is crossing the street. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 6:41:33 PM | | hi.. I do not use mind and mood altering substances that are legal or illegal... I do not use prescription drugs either... I do use food as a drug sometimes but that is even at a minimal... I prefer to be wide awake and clear thinking, esp during these stressful times... I do not believe that substances enhance anyones life.. I believe that substances momentarily alter the way people view their lives and I see this as living a lie, even when done in small degrees... if you live in a lie you are at risk to start believing in your own lies.. if it gets the better of you then reality becomes the more frequent blurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... blessings for health, clarity and assurance, warmly Mona | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 8:26:23 PM | I can agree that drugs are illegal and sould be. However, we are not talking about DRUGS as a whole, we are talking about marujuana.
First of all, to state that the use and cultivation of marijuana is unpatriotc and unamerican is absurd. In the 17th century hemp was encouraged by the government in the production of rope, sails, and clothing; however, hemp use declined in the late eighteenth century. In the late nineteenth century, cannabis became a common ingredient in medicine and was openly sold at pharmacies. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin were all producers of cannabis. The nations first paper mill was owned and opperated by Benjamin Franklin and produced paper exclusively from cannabis. The Declaration of Independence is printed on paper made from cannabis. I mean, the founding fathers of this country saw the potential of ccannabis and used it. I say its unAmerican and unpatriotic for cannabis to be illegal.
Secondly, the decision of the United States Congress to pass the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 was based on hearings, reports and in part on testimony derived from articles in newspapers owned by William Randolph Hearst, who had significant financial interests in the timber industry, which manufactured his newsprint. Cannabis activist Jack Herer has researched DuPont and in his 1985 book The Emperor Wears No Clothes, Herer concluded DuPont played a large role in the criminalization of cannabis. In 1938, DuPont patented the processes for creating plastics from coal and oil and a new process for creating paper from wood pulp. If hemp would have been largely exploited, Herer believes it would have likely been used to make paper and plastic (nylon), and may have hurt DuPont’s profits. Andrew Mellon of the Mellon Bank was DuPont's chief financial backer and was also the Secretary of Treasury under the Hoover administration. Mellon appointed Harry J. Anslinger, who later became his nephew-in-law, as the head of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (FBNDD) and the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN), where Anslinger stayed until 1962. In 1916, United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) chief scientists Jason L. Merrill and Lyster H. Dewe created paper made from hemp pulp, which they concluded was "favorable in comparison with those used with pulp wood in USDA Bulletin No. 404. In his book Herer summarized the findings of Bulletin No. 404.
USDA Bulletin No. 404, reported that one acre of hemp, in annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as 4.1 acres (17,000 m2) of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process would use only 1/4 to 1/7 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all using soda ash. The problem of dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp paper making process, which does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp paper making process requires) but instead safely substitutes hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching process. ... If the new (1916) hemp pulp paper process were legal today, it would soon replace about 70% of all wood pulp paper, including computer printout paper, corrugated boxes and paper bags. Sounds a lot like the petroleum companies of today lobbying against green energy because of their loss of profit and established facilities. But i digress, that is a topic for another time. My main point here is before you form an opinon on something, get the facts about it. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/7/2009 9:31:18 PM | What puzzles me here is what makes it "clear" that they toke marijuana from their profiles when they answer no to the profile question? Basing it only on appearances? If so, that's a massive character flaw.
You know, I think of the hundreds of "heads" I've known in my life and the maybe half dozen I know now and I can't think of a single one that has the serious emotional issues exhibited here.
If someone of such sociopathic tendencies saw a professional about said issues, that person would be prescribed tranquilizers so strong they'd be removed from the rest of functional society. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:51:29 AM | Tried smoking marijuana for the first time at a party 6ish months ago at a friend's - she's a regular of it I guess.
But uuggh - I wouldn't do it again - didn't do much of anything for me annnd I'd rather not test out the legal system...
Annnd you have to be an I D I O T to be on addiction inducing drugs. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:05:45 AM | And I wouldn't care if marijuana were legalized...(I still wouldn't do it.) seems as though the majority of the people who want it..acquire it... (good job America) ..so first things first.. the law practically fails.
..Its non-addicting and doesn't cause serious health problems... so hell - I say... if America has no problem supplying liquor and cigarettes to people which probably cause more serious health problems (both) and leads to all sorts of vehicular and other felonies and deaths (liquor) - both of which are addicting ... then do the intelligent thing and legalize marijuana (how is it worse - if not much better than the above mentioned) and in doing so divert millions+? that typically goes to law enforcement of that drug to something America needs more of. Not to mention - the legal selling will lead to millions/billions in tax profits.
I'd have to argue that those who strongly think marijuana should not be legalized should also be fighting to put a ban on cigarettes and the next prohibition on alcohol?
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:10:19 AM | On another note - for our 4th year of college living in a townhouse...my good friend pulled in a friend he knew that went off to Iraq and came back all batty... anyways... that guy bought so many bottles of cough syrup and chugged them to get high. Just another fail...
I guess you could potentially say why add more legal bad habits to the nation but I dont think that would be a very good legal argument.
Just random thoughts... | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 9:18:56 AM | You Know What...- - You can't reason with anyone on a DRUG do or don't topic.- They'll lie right to you face and agree with you anyway's.- People are unique in every way, and being human is a curse.- Yes , i have taken "elegal" drugs, and liked Weed the most.- But it went away just like my GI joes did....- Expierimenting IS part of everyones life,,Be it fast cars, bunjee - jumping , chased by the police or getting shot at by a crazy farmer- that hates people swimming in there pond , yet the cattle crap in it.- -- This topic will fuel alot of arguments and may never be resolved in- our life times, yet its the less worry for me against the starving and dieing- people of the world . Lets consentrate on that more , and then the aguement- will feel more worthwile..You Get Me?????  | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 9:39:42 AM | What about coffee? Tea? Soft drinks? Asperin? Nyquil?
We are surrounded by drugs.
Personally, I feel that the question is invasive. If people have issues about drugs than let them ask upfront when first cooresponding via email. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 11:42:10 AM |
I personally don’t have any desire to take any illicit drugs. Also I consume very little alcohol as I derive no enjoyment from being drunk.
Seems many people with this point of view think that because they don't like it or want to do it, it should be illegal and nobody else should do it either.
Well, I don't have any desire to shoot a gun, own a gun, or talk to anyone who owns a gun, because (insert typical statement here). Therefore guns should be illegal and nobody else should need one.
Chew on that. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 12:07:18 PM | What I always find amusing is the sheeple who say "Dope doesn't lead to crime- I know, cuz I smoke it, and I don't commit crimes." Well, I happen to know many teens at the local youth detention centre who can attribute their presence there as a result of dope use. And most then just switch to alcohol or something harder when they get older.
The fact is, using a substance, be it alcohol or illicit drugs to zone out, get high, alter your mind, etc., isn't a healthy way to deal with stress. At least with alcohol, you can have a drink and not get buzzed- who smokes weed for anything other than to get a buzz? Personally, I just don't have respect for anyone who either can't deal with stress or who's life is so boring they need to get high. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 1:27:32 PM | Congralutations!
You:
1) Came here to preach 2) Came here with your mindset on all drugs are always 100% bad and can't have any positive effects 3) Categorize anyone who disagree with you to be moronic 4) Sound like an idiot, and need some social lessons
You also come here and tell us to grow up. I think you're the one who needs to grow up. First off you should realize that forums are a place to discuss topics. Not preach. Second you need to pick your words, and arguments better. The fact that you have painted a situation black and white with no exception proves your immaturity. A 3rd grader can argue like you can.
Oh and inB4: I must obviously do pot because I disagree with you.
Sorry, I also think it is stupid to do, but only in the form of trying to get retardedly stoned and get away from your irl problems. I see no problem with people doing pot if they had a stressful day and smoke a bowl or something. The reason why it is illegal is because 80% of the population can't use pot in a proper manner. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:36:13 PM | Every time you watch a porn on the web you support violence drugs prostitution, and possibly the exploitation of children. Every time you put gas in your car you support drugs, violence, and the starvation of children in third world countries and contribute to the ruination of nature. Every time you buy something from china or taiwan you support violence drugs and the exploitation of children. It's good to see the op has not decided to lose the image he has deemed worthy.
Dude!!!!! You are but a sheep. But perhaps it suits you. Somebody get the shears.
Have you noticed that all of the non partakers cannot come up with at least ONE reason as to why it is illegal? Most of your arguments are comparable to a young child who say he doesn't like something but has never tried it. Try coming up with something remotely concrete and you may perhaps gain back bit of respect. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:56:55 PM |
What I always find amusing is the sheeple who say "Dope doesn't lead to crime- I know, cuz I smoke it, and I don't commit crimes." Well, I happen to know many teens at the local youth detention centre who can attribute their presence there as a result of dope use. And most then just switch to alcohol or something harder when they get older.
I was actually expecting you to say, "Dope IS a crime." And I was totally going to give you props on that because it would be true.
But unfortunately, I have to poke holes in what you did say here. Just because the majority of teens in youth detention centers smoke pot does not mean that the majority of teens smoking pot are in youth detention centers. Your statement, while not untrue, is still misleading. There are plenty of others out there not causing anyone harm and simply sitting there in their rooms watching tv and eating everything in the fridge.
The fact is, using a substance, be it alcohol or illicit drugs to zone out, get high, alter your mind, etc., isn't a healthy way to deal with stress.
Overall, I agree.
However......
At least with alcohol, you can have a drink and not get buzzed- who smokes weed for anything other than to get a buzz?
How many people honestly drink not to get some form of a buzz? Some people drink with meals, yes, that's true. Alcohol has the advantage on that one being that it's a liquid and people tend to drink with meals whereas most of them don't generally smoke while eating.
But when not used in conjunction with eating, how many people really drink without the intention of taking the edge off? Even those that like to enjoy a nice cold one after a hard day's work. Yes, it's nice and cold and could be argued to even be refreshing. But above all else, it's relaxing. Because it gives you a buzz.
You drug users will never get it. The poor behaviour, violence, poverty, and burdened social programs all get traced back to drugs...of any sort (including marijuana). This is why it's illegal and wrong.
Actually, the reason hemp was originally outlawed was because it was a threat to the the paper industry. It had nothing to do with its health detriment or recreational value. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:01:04 PM | | Stop with the real facts already, they just do not want to know. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:04:39 PM |
You drug users will never get it. The poor behaviour, violence, poverty, and burdened social programs all get traced back to drugs...of any sort (including marijuana). This is why it's illegal and wrong. No matter how you spin it, when you purchase marijuana you are supporting a criminal enterprise that utilizes violence, prostitution, and exploitation of children. How does it feel?
No matter how you spin it. You're still an idiot for posting like this.
You remind me of this one catholic guy who was trying to convert me to God and that I was going to burn in hell if I didn't. You scream, you rant, you post obscenely and you can't possibly be wrong.
Learn the mechanics of having of a discussion. Creating arguments like yours is for children to create.
All I see is an immature brat who wants to preach, and which is why I don't care to see this thread anymore. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:13:59 PM | Well I was gonna let this thread go by, but as more people start to compare alcohol and say one drink won't hurt you but one hoot will...well I cannot contain my opinion on this any longer.
I do not smoke weed and I very rarely drink alcohol because it is my choice to be that way. But for those of you touting the shining example of alcohol being okay because you can have a drink and not be affected or that its okay because its legal...I guess you are the same people who have not sat through the night with your brother suffering through the DTs and hallucinating like a bad acid trip, shaking and puking. Or watched him the bar become the biggest jerk you have ever met. Or held his hand while he cried because of the mess his life is in. Or walked with him into an AA meeting as he trembled in fear.
Addiction is addiction is addiction. It does not matter what addiction it is...its bad. Gambling is legal but yet how many white collar crimes are committed due to needing to feed that monkey? One drink might not affect you in a very visible way but how about you blow a breathalyzer right after you finish that one drink and then tell me it has no effect.
All I know is from my experience? I would take my pot puffing pals (who all have decent incomes and pay their bills) over my boozing brother (who is facing financial ruin) any day of the week.
Edit**There are plenty of folks out there who smoke up for recreational use and hurt no one in the process...they are not the addicts. | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 4:56:57 PM | | Do you do drugs??? << sure DOOOOOOOOOOOOO ( just had surgery today so they are RX drugs ) | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/8/2009 10:48:36 PM | to Mr. WTF......- I THINK IT'S ELEGAL BECAUSE THE GOVERMENT HAS NOT FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE MONEY ON IT YET...i stress YET.- The people that grow and sell it, have it Masterd.- Theres been rebelion over the years and it's still strong today.- And there afraid to legalize it anyway,probley because of the , home made chemical drugs that truely harms people if it's used agressively.- There's realy is no good answer to Why it's elegal.. I figure if Mother Nature- Alowed it to grow on this earth and used UNALTERD and in its origonal- form...Why isn't it OK.... -- You Got Me.... | |
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| Do you do drugs??? Posted: 5/9/2009 5:05:47 AM | if Mother Nature- Alowed it to grow on this earth <<< arsnic i natural................. 
Some species of sorghum can contain levels of hydrogen cyanide, hordenine and nitrates lethal to grazing animals in the early stages of the plant's growth. Stressed plants, even at later stages of growth, can also contain toxic levels of cyanide. happy eating | |
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