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Posted: 6/4/2009 5:11:16 PM | | Hedo has to be consistently on his game every night. He's been really up and down this year....some nights' he'll hit 10-11 and drop 8 dimes, the next he'll go 1-10 and drop 8 turnovers. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 8:43:43 PM | | Orlando got smoked. Hopefully they wont the Lakers steamroll them the rest of series. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 8:50:33 PM | This was a great win for LA... They definitely all showed up... The series is far from over... But LA has put it all together at the right time.
Even Bynum did a good job...
It's only game one... and it was at LA... Still a long ways to go... But if LA stays focused... and plays that D every game... It's going to be tuff for Orlando. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 9:46:34 PM | sleepless: get some sleep man, its affecting your brain function orlando in 5 or 6 ???
comicbook: grow up
Everyone thinking orland was going to take this just got a rude awakening, KOBE style.
The mamba is loose. Kobe closed this game in the third, expect more of the same.
I originally called this in 6 but after tonight, if they play like this every-night, they will take it in 5, and a very slim chance in 4. Keep hating laker haters, well keep winnin to give you just cause.
Did anyone catch David Arquette's shirt.
YOU
CANT
BEAT LA
kind catchie ain't it? | |
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Posted: 6/4/2009 9:50:55 PM | | I think the Magic played nervous considering this current Magic team has never gone to the finals before, unlike L.A's current team that's been here before last year and I think that plays a big role in the first game especially playing in the Finals for the first time away. I look for the Magic to shake a lot of those nerves off and come out strong in Game 2. I don't predict a win, but I predict a much closer game. I do predict however the Magic winning game 3 and possibly game 4 at home, but after that it's all a question mark from there on out for my predictions. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 4:08:09 AM | This will not be a smooth series for the magic. How will the Magis respond having to play under significant pressure? Face it the magic lose the next game and its allover, they know this and the idea has to be lingering. Face it magic fans, the Lakers are in the Finals because they are a good team, last night 25 points better. of course the Magic live and die by the 3. last night the magic died by the 3. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 6:04:19 AM | | Spend, this is the Magic's first finals game in many years. The last time they were in the finals was when most of these players were little kids. They were a bit nervous in this game. I said it once, and I'll say it again, any well balanced team can beat the Lakers, it's not that hard. Forget about stopping Kobe it really isn't going to happen. Just shut off Gasol and Bynum and you will win the game no matter how many points Kobe scores. A team full of team oriented players will beat a team led by a selfish player in any series. For Kobe to be successful and win, he needs another dominating player, like a Shaq, which honestly he doesn't have. Gasol has always been known as a soft player and if you just play good defense on him, he'll fade into the shadows. Bynum has the potential to be a good player someday but hasn't gotten there yet, probably because of the knee injuries of the last 2 years. Any of the top 3 teams from the Eastern Conf. can beat the Lakers, with the one having the hardest time would have been the Magic. Hopefully it'll be a good competitive series and the best team wins. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 7:46:23 AM | OK, that was the most idiotic post I have read. Just bias garb.
Yes, the 3 top teams in the east are competitive... and anyone of them would give any team a run for their money in the Finals. But you saying that out of the three that the Magic is the one who would have the toughest time. Look, LA beat Boston and Cleveland 2-0 in the season. It was the Magic who beat LA 2-0... so, what's your logic? and it is the Magic who beat both Boston and Cleveland in the playoffs.... Why are you trying to make Orlando look like the weaker of the three? So when they get beat... you can in some way... in your head say... well they only beat the weakest team from the east?
And you know what... It is so funny how people want to keep on about Shaq... look, Shaq is a great player... was great for LA... But Shaq didn't win the titles... the Lakers won the titles... yes, Shaq was a big part, so was Kobe... so was Robert, and Derek and everyone else... It's the whole team, including the bench that give a team the edge to win a championship... Not any one or two players.
As far as this Laker team? You have to be crazy to think it is all Kobe... Yes Kobe is the key, he is the best player on the team... In the league... But it boils down to Farmar... Walton... and others to contribute to win this championship... You know... a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
And last night, there were no weak links... everyone contributed... Sure... You didn't hear Ariza's name a lot.. or many others... But they were there... You can say that the Magic was nervous... it's their first time there... all the excuses you want... But the truth is... LA was there... they showed up, and everyone gave effort.
Lamar Odom, is playing his game, Luke Walton his... Bynum played his... and so on... They are not all Kobe, or James.... but as a team they play good... and you didn't see anyone from the Magic step up... because defensively... as a unit, LA shut them down... a team effort. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 8:32:34 AM | It would have been really cool to see a Nuggets-Magic Finals matchup. Two great teams that have never won an NBA championship.
Of course, the NBA is not about equality. So now we're stuck with freakin Kobe Bryant hogging the spotlight. Oh well. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 8:45:25 AM | I do not want LA to win the finals this year for two reasons. I have never been a Kobe fan, all the way back to when Shaq was with them. They should not have beaten Sacramento that one year and everyone knows it. Worst officiating ever, period. Kobe is the biggest crybaby in the league, and I just don't want him to win another title.
Secondly, I work with an LA fan and he has bet me that LA would win it all the last three years. Needless to say, I enjoy taking his money and I want my streak to remain intact, lol. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:01:32 AM |
yes, Shaq was a big part,
he was more than "big" he won three finals mvp's. Kobe is 0-2 without Shaq in the finals, every laker fan knows that those were Shaq's teams, and Kobe knows it too.
Are you really going to sit here and tell me that it doesnt eat at kobe that he has not won a championship without Shaq?
Kobe doesnt need to win anymore championships in my opinion to prove how good he is. He is the best player on the planet, no doubt about it.
BUT...Kobe and EVERY laker fan is bothered that Kobe doesnt have a championship without Shaq... | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:23:06 AM | | garbage and more garbage.....and Shaq hasn't won anything without Wade....what did Shaq average in the mia championship run? I'll bet it was around 14 compared to Wades 30+......its only important for Kob3 to get one without Shaq so all you haters will shut up.........to Laker fans it has nothing to do with Shaq, the expectations in LA, are always to win the prize, we do that alot.....I'm deeply sorry if your sad organization never wins, i understand your hatred/jealousy, but hey, I live here so its not my problem. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:37:30 AM | | Wonder what basketball fans think about matching up Kobe Vs Jordan? Who was better? | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:45:45 AM |
and Shaq hasn't won anything without Wade
really?....I seem to remember him winning three nba titles without Wade...
he won three finals mvp's without wade....
and your a laker fan?...really?
what did Shaq average in the mia championship run?
he averaged about 18 points along with about 9 boards a game...Wade was huge that series, no doubt about it...
kinda like how huge shaq was in winning three nba finals mvp's averaging about 30 points a game...
Kobe doesnt need to win any more championships to prove how great he is....BUT Kobe and all laker fans are annoyed that Kobe is 0-2 without Shaq.... | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 9:49:23 AM | broncsbuff
I'm a Lakers fan.... all my friends are Lakers fans... I live here in the LA area.... Those were the Lakers championships... not just the Shaq and Kobe's championships... and not just Shaq. If it was because how great Shaq is... the Suns would be there, not LA. And Shaq had help in Miami as does every champion.
We all know it was a team effort... yes with those two players being a huge part... Just because someone is the finals MVP doesn't mean he could have won it alone... Kobe and the Lakers can win this year, with Kobe being the MVP... but it will be Kobe's and Gasol's, and Odom's.... it will be a Laker championship... not Kobe's... It is all of you Kobe haters that make it about Kobe.
Just like the league MVP couldn't make it to the finals because his TEAM isn't good enough.
Jackson is looking for his 10th Championship... Not one for himself, without Jordan, without Shaq... He is a winner... Winners think about winning... not who is playing the game... You put the best team on the floor and they play their best ball... Just because someone is better than the others... doesn't exclude the others efforts and contribution.
Robert Horry has 7 championships, three of those on the Shaq/Kobe Teams... He has won two more since... Does this mean Robert Horry was the reason LA won their last three Championships.... NO... but HE, like everyone else had a key role.
It is only those that hate Kobe... that make this about him and Shaq. Kobe could care less.
Kobe is the best player in the game.... right now... and he is playing on one of the best teams. That combination will win championships. Wether you like Kobe or not.... He is a competitor... a hard worker... a winner.... He wants to win... The championship is always the goal... for all players.... This isn't about winning one without Shaq... Shaq isn't there... so of course he will win one without him... this year? next year? who knows? But he is a competitor.... and believe me... it isn't about Shaq. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 10:02:07 AM | Jack,
your towing the sports cliche of "team effort" and "no one person can win it all"....I get all that, and yes, I cant disagree with you...but every team has an identity....
The celtics of the 80's.....were Larry Birds
The lakers of the 80's .....were Magic Johnsons
The bulls of the 90's.......were Jordans
The celtics of the 60's...were Russells
Nowitzki Mavs
Wads Heat
Melos nuggets
Nash suns
I will say it over and over...Kobe doesnt need to win anymore championships to prove how great he is...and he will be considered great without a championship w/o shaq.....
Kobe will NEVER admit it, but it eats him alive he doesnt have a championship w/o shaq..... | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 10:11:37 AM | really?....I seem to remember him winning three nba titles without Wade...
he won three finals mvp's without wade....
and your a laker fan?...really? - broncs you really have to be a doofus to reverse the argument like that, do I really need to explain it? We all know Shaq won 3 titles with massive help from Kob3 and probably got mvp because he got the rock more and averaged 30. Conversly, like you said, he averaged 18, not 30 in the miami series with massive help from wade. Jack put it down straight, I am not a kob3 lover at all, just a Laker fan since 65....its funny, but only haters are delusional enough to assume what we think about Kobe and the Lakers.
And whats really bizarre, is that Laker haters come out of the woodworks when we are invloved in the hunt, as they are jealous/sick of all things Laker, yet we havn't won anything in 7 years.....I guess nobody hated the Spurs dynasty because nobody watched it. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 11:30:36 AM | I guess nobody hated the Spurs dynasty because nobody watched it.
thats because the nba does a horrible job of marketing its game, they do a good job of marketing its palyers but not its game. lets say for example that the superbowl was the best of 3, and it didnt have a manning or brady u think nobody would watch it? no they still would. now look at the nba, the spurs have one of the 20 best players ever, bet yet they are known as boring, odd that success is boring, anyway this year they have dwight howard in the finals, again one of the best players in the game but yet the nba is heart broken thats its not kobe vs lebron, would the nfl like to have brady vs manning in the superbowl ( and yes i know that it cant happen becuase they are both in the afc) of course they would but the difference is that they dont rely on it. seems to me that the people who didnt watch the spurs dynasty really missed out on watching one of the greatest players ever | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 11:42:21 AM | | maybe the three greatest players ever! My point is, I don't hate on a team due to their success, but then again I don't know what its like to be from podunk. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 1:19:08 PM | Kobe will NEVER admit it, but it eats him alive he doesnt have a championship w/o shaq.
I see him admitting it often, maybe not using the shaqapotumus' name but nevertheless it's a good thing. Players at that level use anything and everything to self motivate over the opposition. The fact that it 'eats him alive' is one of the traits of his greatness , taking a negative and turning it into a positive in epic proportions. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 1:19:46 PM | rickxyz...
your arguing something Im not even talking about...
my point is that its eating Kobe alive he doesnt have a championship w/o shaq...
those were Shaq's lakers, they were not fishers, not kobe's, they were Shaq's....
these are Kobe's lakers...not Gasol, not Fisher, not Odom...Kobes lakers...
if he wins this year, it will be Kobe's lakers that won it.... | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 3:03:04 PM | if he wins this year, it will be Kobe's lakers that won it....
Bottom line is Kobe was not the main man when Shaq was on the team. Even if you don't want to recognize Shaq as the teams face.........the bottom line Kobe was not the main man......Kobe wants to be the main man no matter what PC interview he gives.Kobe wants this BAD!
Chances are the Laker's will help Kobe reach the promised land.Question is how many more times can Kobe get back to the promised land. Laker haters...get ready for a few more years! | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 3:47:38 PM | Broncsbuff...
Do yo think Magic thought those were Kareem's Lakers?... or that Kareem thought they were Magic's Lakers?
Champions... are Teams....
Lakers with Chamberlain, West and Baylor
Lakers with Kareem, Magic and Worthy
Lakers with Shaq, Kobe... and Horice Grant, and Robert Horry
The Laker teams are not, and never were a one man team.... as well as all Champions... It takes a team effort.
Boston.... Bird had McHale and Parish
Boston.... Pierce had Garnett and Allen
(Who's Boston team? Pierce's or Garnett's ?)
Chicago.... Jordon had Pippin, Grant and Rodman
Detroit... Thomas, Sally, Rodman and Laimbeer
Detroit... Billups, Wallace and Richardson
San Antonio... Duncan, Robinson and Kersey
San Antonio... Duncan, Parker and Ginobili
....and everyone else that played on those winning teams.... Some guys get more of the spot light... but no one could win it all... on their own.
Kobe wants to win the Championship.... PERIOD... this year, last year, next year it doesn't matter if it is with Shaq... without Shaq... or anyone else... Who ever is going to help him win is who he wants to play with.... Just exactly like every other player.
The object is to win... and the big prize is the Championship... For you to make it about Shaq is A$$inine... I mean, who cares really.... It's your opinion... have at it....
One more thing... You're not a Lakers fan.... Ask any Lakers fan who's Team won those Championships... The Lakers won. Both Shaq and Kobe... and everyone else.
No one goes the distance... your bench needs to hold onto your lead if you have one... Even the bench is just as important as any one player. Just ask San Antonio. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 4:07:36 PM | Even if the Magic play well the rest of the Finals, they have a mountain to climb.
The Lakers are playing with more force and determination. Kobe is angry that he didn't win it all last year. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2009 4:10:01 PM | | Well the point is going to be pretty much moot anyways after Kobe wins his latest championship. Bronsbuff does have a point though. Kobe can't stand that he doesn't have a championship without Shaq and that Shaq has a ring without Kobe. Of course this won't matter much longer. | |
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