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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/24/2009 8:35:46 AM | This show is just as disgusting as Rock of Love with Bret Michaels. Brett is a 40 something, in bad shape, player, rocker, who's trying to hook up with 20 something trashy plastic sluts. Each episode he beds, more than likely all of them, chooses The One, then within a year it starts all over again. Then there is Flavor Flav, again an old man trying to hook up with 20 somethings.
The Cougar is just as bad as the young guys, who are probably desperate because they can't get women their age to date them, or they want the bragging rights that go with bedding a Cougar, or gawd forbid they have a mommie fixation.
My gf's & I will flirt along with the youngins, to be polite or just for the fun of it, but in reality I'm getting real tired of the Cougar thing. I'm getting tired of these young guys that think all of us women are interested in them. It gets embarrassing when young guys approach me & act as if I should be honored to have a young guy interested in me. Well, I'm not! I feel sorry for them. There has got to be something wrong with them, that they would be so desperate to want to be with a woman 30+ years older than them. To me, the whole extreme age thing is just sad. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 10:26:32 AM | | Gladys Friday, many older women may not be aware that younger men commonly believe that older women are more vulnerable and easier to "hit" upon for sexual opportunites. These guys believe they can obtain sex without attachments or committments with maturer women while many women their age will make more demands (ie, going steady, marriage, etc) which these guys do not wish to deal with. It is a fantasy alot of young men have. So while this is no problem if the older woman is looking for the same thing, for the average maturer woman who is seeking an ongoing committed relationship with a partner who they can connect with emotionally, intellectually and spiritually, generally these younger guys will not fit the bill. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 5:53:42 PM |
I just wish these these typrs of tv shows would not build up some women just to tear them down.
how the heck is this show tearing her down? she loves the attention, gets to act like a ho to a bunch of pathetic men, and you are acting like she's some kind of a victim.
Women do it to themselves and then say poor me. This lady is a joke and pathetic. if this was a guy you'd be ripping on him; get real; you choices and actions show who you are and this is her choice. no victims here. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 6:15:24 PM | many older women may not be aware that younger men commonly believe that older women are more vulnerable and easier to "hit" upon for sexual opportunites. These guys believe they can obtain sex without attachments or committments with maturer women while many women their age will make more demands (ie, going steady, marriage, etc) which these guys do not wish to deal with. It is a fantasy alot of young men have.
Comfort: It's almost kinda cute that you think we don't know this by the time we reach 40+ We even know there's websites that list the cougar hangouts by city (saves me the trouble of going there...) We still see them as pitiful and desperate to get themself some. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 5:20:10 AM | trailgirl, Speak for yourself ! Many women in their forties (as well as younger ones) are quite naive about what men actually think and want out of relationship and that is the reason many are frequently duped by certain unsavory guys who take advantage of this fact. Another example is that many women have no conception how men ridicule and laugh at their boob, buttock and lip augmentations, their absurd clothing selections and their idiosyncratic behavioral characteristics such as self-centeredness and demandingness. They think they look gorgeous while men laugh their asses off at the absurd measures many women take that actually detract from their attractiveness and sexuality.
So the question is, how do I know this better than you? Because trailgirl due to the fact that women relate on a totally different level to men with whom they are intimate than to their girlfriends, I am privy to a level of their psyche and belief systems to a degree that their girlfriends will never have access to.
So while I agree that I am "cute" the basis for my comments are grounded in fact not cuteness! | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 8:50:40 AM | | comfort- I have to agree with you. Too many of my friends that were married & now new to the dating scene have been shocked to find the slutt puppies were cougar hunters & had no intentions of a ltr & were laughing & making fun of them behind their backs. Yeah you are cute. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 12:05:39 PM |
Another example is that many women have no conception how men ridicule and laugh at their boob, buttock and lip augmentations, their absurd clothing selections and their idiosyncratic behavioral characteristics such as self-centeredness and demandingness. They think they look gorgeous while men laugh their asses off at the absurd measures many women take that actually detract from their attractiveness and sexuality.
um, yeah, that's a perfect no-brainer. If these women you describe thought they were paying to look ridiculous, they wouldn't have done those things to start with. But I'm willing to bet a large percentage of the women that aren't as described in your above paragraph know that, and/or are accepting and comfortable with themselves, hence, they remain the way G*d made them. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 1:33:04 PM | "how the heck is this show tearing her down? she loves the attention, gets to act like a ho to a bunch of pathetic men, and you are acting like she's some kind of a victim."
It's called selective editing in the Post process, making some of the guys sound like total halfwits, and making her sound like an even bigger halfwit. Post is where reality shows create their shock value, and sound bites, and typically if they have multiple takes of a scene they will use the one that is the most shocking, funny, disgusting, disturbing, etc., and splice it together with something else equally as bad to create the two minute scene that gets on TV and gets the best ratings. In a show like this there are times they have even more takes than that in order to create the most shocking result they can. So no Virginia, reality TV is not as reality as you think, it's contrived and geared toward specific things depending on the genre and the goal of the particular production. So in answer to your question, yes, the show can, in fact, tear down a person, it just begs the question as to exactly how and that's usually not evident till months later when retrospect and hindsight kick in and people are all shocked and shaken over what a horses ass they made of themselves on national TV, all over Utube, and all over the net.
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Posted: 4/25/2009 2:25:32 PM | SamuraiPixie, excellent post!
Although your points are well taken the fact is that the media, the TV series and films it produces and their actors and players have a very significant impact on the daily lives of many people as well as on cultural trends. Styles of dress, behavior (and misbehavior), music preferences and manners of speech are influenced by these shows for the better or worse. So regardless of what is real or not, the outcome is the same because these shows and their players serve as role models for many who inculcate the values and world views as presented by these programs.
BTW, I am a black belt in Ju-Jitsu, so if you ever have any questions regarding this form of martial arts feel free to let me know. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 2:39:52 PM | Comfort, thank you... however, although I agree that actors, musicians, professional athletes, and the media do influence the decisions that people make socially and culturally speaking, whether it's subconscious or not, I do not count reality TV people in any of those categories.
I'm of the opinion that most reality TV people, MOST being the key word here, are professional exhibitionists, and little more than that and while some may have some actual quantifiable skill on some level, most are simply out to make spectacles of themselves and the more shocking the subject matter, i.e., Flavor Flav, I love New York, Bridezillas, etc., the better and more voluminous the fodder for their ego tripping. The Cougar is pretty much right up there in terms of base subject matter. I sincerely doubt that anyone with the intellect above that of a dust bunny would watch any of these shows and think, "wow, I aspire to be just like that". I don't think so...
Reality TV is a convention and creation and logical development of the 20th century, inasmuch as Hollywood has run out of interesting things to put on TV with original subject matter and story lines, and has turned to the next, most logical subject to depict, which is humanity at its very worst and most deplorable. It's no coincidence that the most popular of these reality shows are the ones that depict people in the worst possible light. Psychologically speaking it's like a horrific scene, your brain wants you to turn away because it's so horrific, but the very fact that it is so horrific keeps you transfixed and unable to look away from it.
And very cool about your black belt, I'm very impressed, I hope to one day be a black belt myself, although as Frost would say I have miles to go before I sleep, in this case, get ranked as a black belt... but one day...
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Posted: 4/25/2009 5:47:30 PM | SamuraiPixie, these reality shows reflect and reinforce the behavior, attitudes and mores manifested by many people in our society. Engaging in verbal disparaging behavior and physical altercations as depicted on the Jerry Springer Show; demanding and inordinate levels of entitlement as evidenced on Bridezilla, and now the Cougar, where older women are represented as bimbos who are attempting to get even with men for dating younger women. These shows and many others are condoning and thereby perpetuating violence, me-ism, narcissistic tendencies as well as "...defining deviancy down", meaning deviancy is no longer considered to be an outlier or atypical but normal behavior! So these programs, although shunned by many can also be perceived by others, including the young, as being acceptable traits and modes of conduct in relating to others.
In fact all one has to do to corroborate this perception is observe the inordinate level of violence in schools, against teachers and amongst students; the lack of respect rampant amongst our young towards their elders; the narcississtic traits of many women and men resulting in their inability to sustain relationships in the face of even minor flaws or disagreements; and the financial ponzi schemes and absolute disregard for the financial well being of Americans as we have recently witnessed with the crash of our economy. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2009 9:48:54 PM | "meaning deviancy is no longer considered to be an outlier or atypical but normal behavior!"
You make a very salient point, and the shows that you mention definitely depict the foregoing in all of it's glory, and perhaps some of the behavior being seen nowadays has something to do with them, to be sure, given that these shows would appeal to a certain caliber of person, but I still tend to believe that a whole lot of the behaviors you are describing and that are, I agree, running rampant in society today, have more to do with poor parenting skills than anything else. I'm of the paradigm that people are definitely a product of their environment and upbringing, and if they view the goings on, on shows such as Jerry Springer as normal, everyday, goings on at home, then they are more than likely going to model their behavior after what they have seen and what has become, to their, view normal. Granted there are many exceptions to this rule, however, it takes a certain strength of character and presence of mind to fly in the face of everything that is being foisted upon you as you are growing up, and create a whole new and different set of norms and mores and this works in both directions, i.e, people that have everything stacked against them and rise above it, and people that have every opportunity and sink to the depths of depravity.
I've only ever watched Jerry Springer once, and I had this uncontrollable and somewhat overwhelming urge to bathe in Clorox when it was over, and to run to the doctor for a Penicillin inoculation... LOL... it's probably one of the main reasons I have 7 or 8 shows that I watch or DVR and nothing else...
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Posted: 4/26/2009 4:46:33 AM | Poor, absent or pathological parenting is one piece of the problem but so is genetics which can lay the ground for children developing conduct disorders and emotional dysregulation, and as adults, Psychopathy. In fact a recent study revealed that approximately one out of five adolescents in the US is severely impaired by a psychiatric disorder. However, this study did not discuss the remaining four adolescents and whether one or more out of the remaining individuals has a moderate mental condition. It is my impression that many youth are significantly impaired psychologically and/or psychiatrically as are quite a few adults. I am not speaing about so-called neurotic traits which we all have or personality idiosynchracies or quirks but pervasive personality and character disorders that result in significant personal and life impairment.
In this context, shows and programing as discussed reinforce and normalize these pathological patterns of behavior and conduct. Thus acting-out anger such as punching someone in the face if you don't like them; walking out and leaving a mate for trivial or inconsequential reasons; bringing weapons to school with no apprehension of consequences; demanding high grades in university even when one's academic performance has been mediocre; treating others without empathy or compassion; and engaging in ponzi schemes to rip off millions of people from their life savings, all appear to be acceptable because society condones it and in fact actually encourages it in films and reality TV . | |
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Posted: 4/26/2009 12:57:20 PM | I see what you are saying and I would agree in that context, but bear in mind that those studies sometimes can, as you stated, be deficient if they are lumping together psychiatric disorders and psychological impairments with things that are not necessarily severe, and completely treatable, i.e., ADHD, and things like that. However, I would, as I said, agree that in cases where things go untamed, untreated or are ignored, shows of that nature, if not being monitored appropriately by parents, can reinforce negative behaviors, but then again so can video games and many other things. I would agree that genetics plays a part in some disorders, but I think in the end those disorders grow to be far worse, when nurture is not something that the parent(s) are inclined to participate in actively and appropriately. It's sad really, I see it far too often in my work, and truly wish I didn't.
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/26/2009 3:17:24 PM | It doesnt' matter the age to me; but when a 40 year old man or woman is getting off on their ego being boosted by making out and screwing around with 15-20 guys/girls at the same time then they are sleazy insecure people.
Be it the bachelor or the cougar, the people in these shows are pathetic. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2009 5:56:27 PM | Like I said, professional exhibitionists, and that's just the tip of the iceberg, some are rather disturbed, but apparently it makes for some great ratings and someone, somewhere is making money on it, so I'm sure that these types of shows will only get more prolific. Sad really, but to each his or her own.
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| The new TV series The Cougar!
Posted: 4/27/2009 9:28:50 PM | I had to groan when I saw that it was next in line.... I am not a "reality" show watcher of any sort... from Survivor on.... I really do see it as sucking the gray matter right out of ones brain...There is nothing real about it.. like watching WWW on Monday nights grrrr it interferes with my watching Law & Order.... why on earth anyone buys what is being spoon fed to them is beyond me...
I don't see this show as a threat against women maybe because I don't see anything real about it... but I had to say the blibs with her in the tub with a guy had me cracking up... so she samples the wares until she finds just the right boy toy? I can't believe anyone in their right mind would seriously consider long term marriage at the very least with a much younger person... but then if your a serial marriage type then he won't be seeing her at 85 anyway... Its tv... rolling my eyes..... | |
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Posted: 4/27/2009 11:44:29 PM | THIS is what concerns.... no, frightens.... me the most...
These shows and many others are condoning and thereby perpetuating violence, me-ism, narcissistic tendencies as well as "...defining deviancy down", meaning deviancy is no longer considered to be an outlier or atypical but normal behavior! So these programs, although shunned by many can also be perceived by others, including the young, as being acceptable traits and modes of conduct in relating to others.
Simple. Marketing: Supply, and Demand. Apparently such has now graduated to Demand, and Supply when it comes to this type of media. Obviously, those of us that are opposed to this sick type of programming are in the minority; if we weren't it wouldn't exist. Like I said... Frightening. Literally.
Many years ago when The Bachelor was created, I watched the first episode. I was horrified, and a bit more then pissed off, I could never stomach another viewing. No way could this show stick around for long... the intelligent publics' outcry would surely shut it down, and the network(s) would intelligently comply... it would last only one season if that, and then some semblance of sanity, and decorum, would once again reign... right ?
WRONG... Disgustedly, WRONG. | |
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