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Posted: 4/18/2009 6:00:25 PM | Beaugrand: That was just two examples of my encounters with parents in the last 24 hours. I have been rammed in the back of the legs by kids pushing carts in the store (whoever invented "shopper in training" carts should be shot), I've been hit by a 4 year old riding a scooter in the yogurt aisle, and don't even get me started about the parents who insist in bringing their mega-strollers into the tight confines of a store or coffee shop and then, inexplicably, releasing the occupant of the mega-stroller to roam around.
I'm not saying that every parent is like this........but there are plenty of them out there.
I've always chalked parental self-absorption up to hormones. Maybe it's essential to the survival of the species for parents to view their children as the most important precious thing ever created. Who knows, I'm clearly missing the chip :). | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 6:16:18 PM | Integra1, while i sympathize with the situations you have had with kids, I would suggest that one could make that argument about just about any group of people.
I personally hate drivers. In the last 24 hours, I have almost been run over 3 times just trying to cross the street. I'm in the crosswalk, waiting for the traffic to be clear, stop-signs and all, and then when I step out into the cross walk, someone decides that is the correct time to turn into my cross walk, which I might mention is illegal in my state.
I have a problem with many Deaf people. Don't get me wrong, I have dated a girl who was Deaf, but why do they feel they need to have everything handed to them on a silver platter? Get over yourselves, you aren't THAT special.
I have a problem with people who flaunt their GPA. Congratulations, all you've proven is that you can regurtitate stuff on a test and know how to please a teacher. Doesn't mean anything, because you haven't actually learned the material. You basically just became a prostitute in reverse.
Fact of the matter is that every person is going to have a problem with some segment of the population. There is nothing you can do about it. You just try and deal with it and go about your merry way. Otherwise, There is a nice piece of property that you are more than welcome to move to at 90 degrees South and 0 degrees East. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 6:18:14 PM | OMG! Thank you for your telling insight. Finally, someone that sees that just having a kid isn't where it stops. You must ALWAYS be there. How tiring. That's what I'm talking about. If society doesn't ruin your kids, public school will. You just can't be there all the time. And why would anyone want to? How tiring. When do you get time to yourselves to do whatever you want for however long you want? Kids are expensive, time-consuming, attention-hogging creations. Most likely your vagina gets ruined having them, and then men complain that "it's never the same". There's never enough money for them, and men don't want to support them. Even though they're irritating, men always choose them first. They always gotta have something! Kids, schmids. Please. I do apologize for calling all you 'parents' illogical. Wrong word. I do not want to celebrate the delight that is your offspring. Thank you. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 6:28:23 PM | | My point is I want to find people that are passionate in talking about ANYTHING other than their kids. Kids are not the be all end all in this rediculous world! | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 6:58:25 PM |
My point is I want to find people that are passionate in talking about ANYTHING other than their kids. Kids are not the be all end all in this rediculous world!
By responding or having this topic in and off itself, it would seem to me that people are perpetuating their own self-fulfilling prophecy. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 9:53:51 PM | There are many people who have no children and who have no desire to have any,me being one of them. Now I will not rule out a man with kids because first at my age the chance of someone not having kids is next to zero and second is that I really like kids. I like playing the role of the aunty who spoils kids rotten. You don't have to be the heavy with them. That's something you get to leave up to mom and dad. Also if a man already has kids then most of the time I know he is with me because he is done with having them and wont expect me at my age to try having any.
I think though that you will have trouble finding people with who kids have no part in their lifestyle at all. Even to those of us who don't have kids we still have nieces,nephew,little cousins,god children and step children. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 10:05:28 PM | OMG! Thank you for your telling insight. Finally, someone that sees that just having a kid isn't where it stops. You must ALWAYS be there. How tiring. That's what I'm talking about. If society doesn't ruin your kids, public school will. You just can't be there all the time. And why would anyone want to? How tiring. When do you get time to yourselves to do whatever you want for however long you want? Kids are expensive, time-consuming, attention-hogging creations. Most likely your vagina gets ruined having them, and then men complain that "it's never the same". There's never enough money for them, and men don't want to support them. Even though they're irritating, men always choose them first. They always gotta have something! Kids, schmids. Please. I do apologize for calling all you 'parents' illogical. Wrong word. I do not want to celebrate the delight that is your offspring. Thank you.
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SOOOOO........ basically you just don't want to do what your mom did? Understandable
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Posted: 4/19/2009 7:40:31 AM | | It's not often i am left speechless but this may be one of those times. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 7:44:09 AM | I am probably a charter member of this group a founding (non) father  | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 7:48:40 AM |
I want kids. I'm just having a hard time finding someone that doesn't have them already.
There's this woman in Scotland with a really wonderful voice...
OMG! Thank you for your telling insight. Finally, someone that sees that just having a kid isn't where it stops. You must ALWAYS be there. How tiring. That's what I'm talking about. If society doesn't ruin your kids, public school will. You just can't be there all the time. And why would anyone want to? How tiring. When do you get time to yourselves to do whatever you want for however long you want? Kids are expensive, time-consuming, attention-hogging creations. Most likely your vagina gets ruined having them, and then men complain that "it's never the same". There's never enough money for them, and men don't want to support them. Even though they're irritating, men always choose them first. They always gotta have something! Kids, schmids. Please. I do apologize for calling all you 'parents' illogical. Wrong word. I do not want to celebrate the delight that is your offspring.
I feel the same way about pets, those expensive, time-consuming, attention-hogging creatures with the added burden of never, ever becoming self-sufficient. Jesus Christ, I could never date a woman with dogs, especially those yappy little weiner dogs. I mean, hell, when you're ready to get down to business, the little rats jump on the bed or bark or have to be let outside or they'll take a dump on the floor, then the men will complain that "it never smells the same." At least kids are potty-trained at some point!
Right, so I really don't feel this way but I hope you see the point because I see yours: Your world is all about you. All you need do is find a man who understands this and supports you in your way. Find a man without any children, pets, hobbies, or interests other than you. It's very simple.
See, I do think that there are some parents who overdo it when it comes to indulging their children but I can't fathom such a hate-filled rant as yours coming from any decent person. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 9:22:36 AM | | Integra, I can certainly agree with what you have said. There are Parents who really are completely clueless. Kids need to learn boundaries, especially when no kid people are around. I hate seeing kids throwing temper tantrums in public places and watching Parents not being able to deal with it. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 9:37:25 AM | My uterus is a KID free Zone...I don't even try to defend my stance with altruistic rationales ( over population of the earth/ carbon footprints etc)..
I have never had a desire to have kids.. period..kids scare me..annoy me and gross me out with their atrocious lack of hygience and then putting their filthy mitts on stuff.. ugh.
This is why my Mom is my hero.. I dunno how she did it.. She wanted children but I don't.I don't hate kids - just dont want em in my house.. They are fine outside tho..lol
The thing is that I have strong maternal instincts for my baby( my dog) but not the human kind... no thx | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 5:38:04 PM | | Actually, The world is underpopulated. Religous people by far produce more children than non religious people. So, maybe if we can get them to home school in a few years we can have a more rational world. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 6:27:49 PM | | OP, I totally understand your feelings. I'm childfree by choice, too. Google the term "childfree by choice forum" and you will find some forums for like-minded people. There used to be an organization that had chapters in cities all over for childfree people to meet and do activities. I can't remember the name of it, though. I did find a website called childfreemeetup.com that looks similar. Google "social outings childfree" and you will find some others. Hope this helps. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 7:19:00 PM | My goodness, I have met dog parents that were just as obnoxious about their "babies", as many parents of human beings that I have come across.
Bashing people that do have children seems as senseless as bashing those people that choose not to have children.
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Posted: 4/20/2009 11:32:57 AM |
You just can't be there all the time. And why would anyone want to? How tiring. When do you get time to yourselves to do whatever you want for however long you want? Kids are expensive, time-consuming, attention-hogging creations. Most likely your vagina gets ruined having them, and then men complain that "it's never the same". There's never enough money for them, and men don't want to support them. Even though they're irritating, men always choose them first. Let me guess...You don't like children and the guys that like them?
SOOOOO........ basically you just don't want to do what your mom did? Understandable
No shit. I can't say I've ever heard anyone so negative about kids. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 3:09:46 PM | [Quote]By responding or having this topic in and off itself, it would seem to me that people are perpetuating their own self-fulfilling prophecy
LOL!!! Oh, that was too funny! The guy who's complaining about how sick he is of people talking about kids starts a thread about talking about kids! Not a good way to avoid the kid conversation, huh?
I agree with Integra, though. The only problem I have with kids is the rude, ignorant parents who raise them... and the realization that those kids are one day going to be just like their rude, ignorant parents... and have the world in their hands.... SCARY!!!
I never thought I'd have kids and have always been terrified and disgusted by the idea of pregancy and giving birth--just not for me, I guess... but I'm a 27 year-old woman, and ever since my nephew was born a month ago, my biological clock has started ticking loud enough for me to hear.... I've never felt so unnerved in my life...
And, part of me does think that some people are selfish for having children... There are just some people who have nothing to add to the world and shouldn't procreate, but it's a natural instinct and can barely be helped. Logic and nature are forever at odds... But I DO think artificial insemination is kinda selfish (though understandable, still selfish)... you kinda wonder about how truly caring or nurturing a person can be who'll spend all kinds of money to get themselves pregnant against the odds, but are unwilling to provide a loving home to parentless children... I dunno... Not trying to judge, just observing... | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 4:20:29 PM | [Not me. I need someone to take care of me in my old age.]
not a good reason to have em IMO and who is to say they will?? | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 4:53:47 PM | Don't have offspring, don't want any, will not date a father. I don't like children under 12. Don't like babies. Don't like toddlers. Don't like little kids. Intend to foster teenagers once I'm not a single woman in a one bedroom working 50+ hours a week.
Thankfully, my only friend with a kid does speak of things other than her sons. There are many parents who assume that everyone will be as excited to know about their kids as they are. It's that assumption that everyone likes kids and likes *your* kid, that just nauseates me. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 5:03:22 PM | I'm 25 years old and have been "spayed" for almost 3 years now ... took 5 docs and 2 psych evaluations before the docs would okay me to get my tubes clamped off and tied.
I have always known that i do not want or like children ... no urge to have any, i think that i lack the mommy gene to be honest.
Dropped my last SO because he started talking about kids and a family ... nope ... sorry, bye.
I would actually turn down dates from men with kids. I still call my nephews "it"
There is a group called No Kidding feel free to google it. it a global club for persons who choose NOT to reproduce and who have never had children. it's kind of cool camping and other social outings ... best part is that you don't have to listen to people talking about their kids (because noone in the club has any) | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 5:17:22 PM | The fine ladies with the no kids rants are my kind of gals 
To each their own | |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 5:51:59 PM | | I've been a juvenile diabetic since 1995, and for years I wouldn't take care of myself. I've managed to render myself sterile. I'm not worried about it because I think I have a pretty good string of backup plans. You see, right now I know I'm nowhere near responsible or self-sufficient enough to handle raising a child. And even if/when I am, there's the problem of who's going to be the mother. I have a hard time getting women to talk to me for five minutes, so long enough to contemplate parenthood is infathomable at this point. And let's just say for a second that I do find a woman and we decide to start a family. Then we'll do what my parents did with me and adopt a baby; give some other kid a chance at a life he or she might never otherwise have. Hopefully she can accept that. Besides, the world is becoming overpopulated and crowded as is. I'm being globally conscious or something like that. | |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 10:49:42 AM | Also, as much as it might bother some of you to hear about your friends'/family members' kids, it's a supportive thing to do, in my opinion. My best friend blabs away sometimes about things that are important to her, but uninteresting to me (things about her job and so on...), but she's my friend, and I care about her... listening to her and helping her is part of my role as her friend... the same that she does for me.
Try putting yourself in another's shoes... having a child is a complete life-changing experience. Imagine how selfish it is to expect a person going through such changes to never speak up about it... or to have to guage his/her story-telling time in order to keep his/her friend's attention? A friend is supposed to help alleviate pressure, not add it on. | |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 5:56:42 PM | I don't know if it's illogical to want kids, but everyone has their own reasons for wanting whatever they want. Sometimes life is funny, all I ever wanted was to be a stay-at-home mom, like my own mum, I never wanted a career. Unfortunately it never worked out and for a long time it was really painful but thankfully a couple of years ago that stupid clock finally stopped ticking!!!
Now I don't just don't want them at all, the idea of dragging a screaming, crying kid through Safeway on my way home from work just doesn't hold any appeal for me. I definitely cannot see myself being 60 years old and going to my kids high school grad....so many good reasons not to have them now.
I love my neices and nephews and now their babies too and I have a great time with them, but I love that they go home and I have peace and quiet just as much. Generally speaking, I love kids, especially well behaved ones, but kids can make life very complicated, I like my life to be very simple.
As for dating at this age, it definitely eliminates a lot of people - most men my age without kids want them, and the ones that don't want them because they already have them, also have an ex-wife who is very much entrenched in their life and likely will be for many years. I patiently allowed my mother-in-law to control my life for too many years out of respect for my husband and because I wanted my marriage to work. I have no intention of ever doing that with someone's ex-wife. | |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 8:37:56 PM |
Are there any adults out there that don't have or want or care about hearing about kids? I can't seem to find any logical people out there that don't believe in procreation or overpopulating the Earth. I'd really like to find a group of people to talk to where kids are of no part of their lifestyles. I can't stand it anymore!
Ahh, I see you are gone, but your thread remains. Pity that..
There are unlimited people without children around. There are many who will never have children, who don't want them anyway. You obviously do need to mingle with your own kind; there is absolutely no question about that. Hopefully you have done so, where ever you've departed to.
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