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 blondegirl24

Joined: 8/14/2008
Msg: 51
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Posted: 4/22/2009 12:27:56 PM
I admire people who are honest enough to admit they don't want children for whatever reason. I have two children and while I love them it can be very very hard raising children;especially on your own. As far as someone to take care of you when you are old??! My daughter (28) wouldn't even come over to help me with my television cable let alone cook me a meal!

As I speak there are police cars and an ambulance in a house down the street. This woman is a baby factory. I believe she has had one taken away from her and went on to have I believe 3 more; 5 people in a two bedroom rent-subsidized small townhouse. Of course she will never work outside the home she will probably continue to have kids. I know children's aid is involved with her. Few years back she took off with her kids and left 2 rotwillers (sp)? locked up in the house. SPCA had to come and break in to save the dogs. Who in their right mind would have two viscious dogs around todddlers?

There are many people who shouldn't have children and I respect those who say so!
 daylillies2

Joined: 7/9/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2009 8:43:43 AM
I dont have children in my life but i do cherish the time spent with my nieces and nephews, they keep me young at heart. My work involves children of all ages.

OP i know what you mean....my friends, family, and others have children and I being the only one, not having children. everything I do, involves children, dont get me wrong, I enjoy it and love it, god bless them little darlings. but making plans with them, and doing what i want to do, just isnt possible and sometimes, i would love to have just adult company, a friend who I can call and say, hey lets go on a trip or maybe on an adventure some where, or last minute plans being spontanous. hope i dont sound to selfish.

I do know of some(in their 50's), whos children have grown up(25 & up) and have another child, because the house is to quiet and for the sake of not being alone...wow, that blows me away to see this. little do they know, theres so much more to life.
no kids
Posted: 4/30/2009 2:40:03 PM
Actually, the myth about the world being overpopulated isn't really true. Somebody did a breakdown of this once, I forgot where it was. The world seems overpopulated to a lot of people because the majority of people all gravitate to the same big cities. But there are large (and I do mean large) spaces of land in between those cities in a lot of places that have virtually no people at all living in them. If big city populations were to be divided out across all the sparsely populated areas, virtually nowhere would seem overcrowded.
 Beaugrand®™©

Joined: 3/24/2008
Msg: 54
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Posted: 4/30/2009 4:45:48 PM
In fact, even if the population was evenly distributed over all the inhabitable areas of the Earth's surface there would still be insurmountable problems distributing resources equitably- there would still be starving masses in the "undeveloped" world. "Overpopulation" is a misnomer, it should be called "underdistribution."

World population (estimated) 2009:

World total 6,776,830,231

1 China 1,338,612,968
2 India 1,166,079,217
3 United States 307,212,123
4 Indonesia 240,271,522
5 Brazil 198,739,269
6 Pakistan 176,242,949
7 Bangladesh 156,050,883
8 Nigeria 149,229,090
9 Russia 140,041,247
10 Japan 127,078,679
11 Mexico 111,211,789
12 Philippines 97,976,603
13 Vietnam 86,967,524
14 Ethiopia 85,237,338
15 Egypt 83,082,869
16 Germany 82,329,758
17 Turkey 76,805,524
18 Congo (Kinshasa) 68,692,542
19 Iran 66,429,284
20 Thailand 65,905,410
21 France 64,420,073
22 United Kingdom 61,113,205
23 Italy 58,126,212
24 South Africa 49,052,489
25 Korea, South 48,508,972
26 Burma 48,137,741
27 Ukraine 45,700,395
28 Colombia 45,644,023
29 Sudan 41,087,825
30 Tanzania 41,048,532
31 Argentina 40,913,584
32 Spain 40,525,002
33 Kenya 39,002,772
34 Poland 38,482,919
35 Morocco 34,859,364
36 Algeria 34,178,188
37 Afghanistan 33,609,937
38 Canada 33,487,208
39 Uganda 32,369,558
40 Peru 29,546,963
41 Iraq 28,945,657
42 Saudi Arabia 28,686,633
43 Nepal 28,563,377
44 Uzbekistan 27,606,007
45 Venezuela 26,814,843
46 Malaysia 25,715,819
47 Ghana 23,832,495
48 Yemen 23,822,783
49 Taiwan 22,974,347
50 Korea, North 22,665,345
51 Romania 22,215,421
52 Mozambique 21,669,278
53 Sri Lanka 21,324,791
54 Australia 21,262,641
55 Madagascar 20,653,556
56 Cote d'Ivoire 20,617,068
57 Syria 20,178,485
58 Cameroon 18,879,301
59 Netherlands 16,715,999
60 Chile 16,601,707
61 Burkina Faso 15,746,232
62 Kazakhstan 15,399,437
63 Niger 15,306,252
64 Ecuador 14,573,101
65 Cambodia 14,494,293
66 Malawi 14,268,711
67 Senegal 13,711,597
68 Guatemala 13,276,517
69 Angola 12,799,293
70 Mali 12,666,987
71 Zambia 11,862,740
72 Cuba 11,451,652
73 Zimbabwe 11,392,629
74 Greece 10,737,428
75 Portugal 10,707,924
76 Tunisia 10,486,339
77 Rwanda 10,473,282
78 Belgium 10,414,336
79 Chad 10,329,208
80 Czech Republic 10,211,904
81 Guinea 10,057,975
82 Hungary 9,905,596
83 Somalia 9,832,017
84 Bolivia 9,775,246
85 Dominican Republic 9,650,054
86 Belarus 9,648,533
87 Sweden 9,059,651
88 Haiti 9,035,536
89 Burundi 8,988,091
90 Benin 8,791,832
91 Azerbaijan 8,238,672
92 Austria 8,210,281
93 Honduras 7,792,854
94 Switzerland 7,604,467
95 Serbia 7,379,339
96 Tajikistan 7,349,145
97 Israel 7,233,701
98 Bulgaria 7,204,687
99 El Salvador 7,185,218
100 Hong Kong 7,055,071
101 Paraguay 6,995,655
102 Laos 6,834,942
103 Sierra Leone 6,440,053
104 Jordan 6,342,948
105 Libya 6,310,434
106 Papua New Guinea 6,057,263
107 Togo 6,019,877
108 Nicaragua 5,891,199
109 Eritrea 5,647,168
110 Denmark 5,500,510
111 Slovakia 5,463,046
112 Kyrgyzstan 5,431,747
113 Finland 5,250,275
114 Turkmenistan 4,884,887
115 United Arab Emirates 4,798,491
116 Norway 4,660,539
117 Singapore 4,657,542
118 Georgia 4,615,807
119 Bosnia and Herzegovina 4,613,414
120 Central African Republic 4,511,488
121 Croatia 4,489,409
122 Moldova 4,320,748
123 Costa Rica 4,253,877
124 New Zealand 4,213,418
125 Ireland 4,203,200
126 Lebanon 4,017,095
127 Congo (Brazzaville) 4,012,809
128 Puerto Rico 3,971,020
129 Albania 3,639,453
130 Lithuania 3,555,179
131 Uruguay 3,494,382
132 Liberia 3,441,790
133 Oman 3,418,085
134 Panama 3,360,474
135 Mauritania 3,129,486
136 Mongolia 3,041,142
137 Armenia 2,967,004
138 Jamaica 2,825,928
139 Kuwait 2,691,158
140 West Bank 2,461,267
141 Latvia 2,231,503
142 Lesotho 2,130,819
143 Namibia 2,108,665
144 Macedonia 2,066,718
145 Slovenia 2,005,692
146 Botswana 1,990,876
147 Kosovo 1,804,838
148 Gambia, The 1,782,893
149 Gaza Strip 1,551,859
150 Guinea-Bissau 1,533,964
151 Gabon 1,514,993
152 Estonia 1,299,371
153 Mauritius 1,284,264
154 Trinidad and Tobago 1,229,953
155 Timor-Leste 1,131,612
156 Swaziland 1,123,913
157 Fiji 944,720
158 Qatar 833,285
159 Cyprus 796,740
160 Guyana 772,298
161 Comoros 752,438
162 Bahrain 727,785
163 Bhutan 691,141
164 Montenegro 672,180
165 Equatorial Guinea 633,441
166 Solomon Islands 595,613
167 Macau 559,846
168 Djibouti 516,055
169 Luxembourg 491,775
170 Suriname 481,267
171 Cape Verde 429,474
172 Western Sahara 405,210
173 Malta 405,165
174 Maldives 396,334
175 Brunei 388,190
176 Bahamas, The 309,156
177 Belize 307,899
178 Iceland 306,694
179 French Polynesia 287,032
180 Barbados 284,589
181 New Caledonia 227,436
182 Netherlands Antilles 227,049
183 Mayotte 223,765
184 Samoa 219,998
185 Vanuatu 218,519
186 Sao Tome and Principe 212,679
187 Guam 178,430
188 Saint Lucia 160,267
189 Tonga 120,898
190 Kiribati 112,850
191 Virgin Islands, U.S. 109,825
192 Micronesia, Federated States of 107,434
193 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 104,574
194 Aruba 103,065
195 Jersey 91,626
196 Grenada 90,739
197 Northern Mariana Islands 88,662
198 Seychelles 87,476
199 Antigua and Barbuda 85,632
200 Andorra 83,888
201 Isle of Man 76,512
202 Dominica 72,660
203 Bermuda 67,837
204 Guernsey 65,870
205 American Samoa 65,628
206 Marshall Islands 64,522
207 Greenland 57,600
208 Cayman Islands 49,035
209 Faroe Islands 48,856
210 Saint Kitts and Nevis 40,131
211 Liechtenstein 34,761
212 Monaco 32,965
213 San Marino 30,324
214 Saint Martin 29,820
215 Gibraltar 28,034
216 Virgin Islands, British 24,491
217 Turks and Caicos Islands 22,942
218 Palau 20,796
219 Wallis and Futuna 15,289
220 Anguilla 14,436
221 Nauru 14,019
222 Tuvalu 12,373
223 Cook Islands 11,870
224 Saint Helena 7,637
225 Saint Barthelemy 7,448
226 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 7,051
227 Montserrat 5,097

Source:
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idb/index.html
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Posted: 4/30/2009 5:10:17 PM
I almost said something about that. Resources would be a bit different.

But I suppose if people became more adept at finding other ways to get their basic needs met, this wouldn't really be as much of a problem.
 Winter Wren

Joined: 11/27/2008
Msg: 56
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Posted: 4/30/2009 5:37:23 PM

But I suppose if people became more adept at finding other ways to get their basic needs met, this wouldn't really be as much of a problem.

Well, I think the trouble is, that a very small segment of the world population is getting far, far more than their basic needs met at the expense and detriment of everyone else.
There will never be an equitable distribution of resources without a major philosophical shift that I don't believe, at our present state of "enlightenment", we will ever achieve.
Pessimistic? Maybe. Look around.
No kids for me, but not that I don't enjoy them. Too many in the world already, so I don't need them for myself.
I would like to contribute more to bettering the lives of the less fortunate children though.
 AngelWings_X3

Joined: 4/11/2009
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Posted: 4/30/2009 5:38:58 PM
Its easy to find people who dont want to talk about kids and or having them but you have to think having kids is one of the greatest joys in the world, they are our future so people tend to go on and on about them....also making them is fun lol....
 wboydsp

Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 5/1/2009 6:23:46 AM
I can understand not wanting kids. I cannot understand calling people who have them illogical. I don't have any, however, if a woman really knows how to be a mother i'd have no problem getting with her.
There is no evidence of overpopulation. Actually we are underpopulated. That is why we have problems with Social Security. The children that were massecered in abortion clinics in the 70's and 80's were people who would have been working and paying in. However, the freedom of the selfish won out.
 Fa que

Joined: 2/10/2009
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Posted: 5/1/2009 8:04:09 AM

The children that were massecered in abortion clinics in the 70's and 80's were people who would have been working and paying in. However, the freedom of the selfish won out.


JFC. You just have to admire the ignorance of a blatantly idiotic statement like that.

First off, it is massacred. Secondly, you must have been at each and every abortion to know why they were performed and just how "selfish" each individual was to get one.

Man people like you get my goat up. All you have to do is look around to see how many children have been brought into this world by parents who really never wanted or understood what it meant to be a parent. Those childrens lives are so sad as they haven't the proper nurturing or nutrition and most face lives that are less than you would wish on an enemy.
YET you profess to understand how others live their lives and what lead them to a choice to abort??? You know little in my opinion. Abortion is a right and sometimes THE RIGHT thing to do. I feel it is best to only bring a child into this world if you are capable and willing to care for them to the very best of your abilities.

Good on those who choose not to become parents... it is a huge responsibility and a lifetimes work.
 bigben1731

Joined: 1/7/2009
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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:18:50 AM
well i dont have childen in my life either and since im pass 31 now i will probaly not think about having kids in the future if i meet the right woman if not im happy being single and stay childless free has the population has grown and i think more about more future as traveling and single parent s dont get that much often in there lifes of traveling and while you dont have kids aleast you can get to travel and instead going through marriage and divorce and dramas to go with
 SweetSouthernCandy

Joined: 4/11/2009
Msg: 61
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Posted: 7/23/2009 5:55:54 PM
I agree with Vancer
I am too much of a grown kid to have any, plus I don't have that kind of energy
 Alli_oop

Joined: 6/30/2009
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Posted: 7/23/2009 7:24:38 PM
same, i'm too lazy to have kids. :)
plus i have zero desire to do mom stuff...soccer practices, pta, daycare mom, whatever stuff. It makes me get drowsy just thinking of it.
 Padawan61

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Posted: 7/23/2009 8:19:08 PM
Not me. I need someone to take care of me in my old age

That's not always a certainty. Kids can die before their parents get to old age. Moreover, if your adult children have children of their own by the time you reach senior citizen status, they may not have the the time or money to take care of you. In either case, your return on investment would be negligible and you'll still end up at the old folks home.
 OneLoneRogue

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Posted: 7/23/2009 11:56:04 PM
Ever since I was about 18 or 19, I wanted to have kids. When I got married at 24, I thought I was mature enough to have them, as well as the good job in order to afford them. However, after 9 years of marriage which eventually led to a divorce, it's hard to fathom that my ex now has 2 kids of her own and I'm still trying to have my 1st!

Do I want kids? Yes, but feel that all these years the thought of having them has been nothing but wishful thinking. Am I in a position to have kids? No! Simply because I've started my own business in the last year or so and want to see that become something that can stand on its own, so if/when I do reach the 'senior years' of my life, I'll be able to enjoy it as opposed to having to continue working.
 Charmaina

Joined: 10/17/2009
Msg: 65
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Posted: 11/16/2009 4:48:16 AM
I decided not to have kids,mainly for medical reasons.After surgery in 2001 I was diagnosed with Polyacystic Ovarian Syndrome,which is the most common cause of infertility in women.Doctors told me that I won't be able to conceive on my own;that I'll need to see a fertility specialisat.I've seen how all those medical procedures are done on tv and I don't want to go trough all that.I totally admire women who go through all those tests,needles,etc.For me,I couldn't do it.
As for personal reasons,I don't think I'd be a good mother.I have no patience with kids whatsoever and I have a temper.Iam afraid I would be yelling and screaming at the kids all the time.I don't ever want to cause any kind of harm to kids:mentally,physically,emotionally,etc.So,nope,Iam not going to have any kids.
 cherrydolly

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Posted: 11/16/2009 6:14:31 AM
I believe that if we pass a law stating that we can have only 2 , for example , born per female. we could control the population..... there would likely be less children in the foster care systems.


-Val.
 JWG86

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Posted: 11/16/2009 2:33:28 PM
I do not want kids, nor am I interested in playing Dad. However, my city has an over-abundance of single moms. Very rare to find a girl over about 23 or so who doesn't have a few. For people who want kinds, more power to 'em. I just don't see the need in it and could spend a quarter million plus on other stuff (Roughly the amount that the state of Texas determined in the early 2000's it cost to raise a child from 0-21 barring any major illnesses).
 jammytoe

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Posted: 11/16/2009 5:47:27 PM
i also have opted for no children....i have nothing against them, i love my neices and nephews. just having a hard time meeting guys to date that don't have any and aren't interested in making more....HELP!!!
 canoga77

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Posted: 11/16/2009 6:25:46 PM
Kids are just a pain. I absolutely can't stand it when I'm out in public and people let their brats run around all over the place yelling and screaming. I don't know why it's so important for some people to have them. I know if our parents and grandparents had that attitude, we wouldn't be here. But I don't desire to be a father. And I really don't like dating single mothers.
 valenciacityx

Joined: 3/10/2009
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Posted: 11/19/2009 10:18:55 PM
No rug rodents here, none planned, none capable.

Theres enough breeders that I dont feel humanity will die off with out my genetic contribution.
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Posted: 11/20/2009 10:29:20 AM
To All The Posters that Can't Stand Kids for one reason or another.............
IT'S A PITY YOUR MOTHER DIDN'T FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT YOU FEEL.. Boo Hoo for you
 Lone lady here

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Posted: 11/20/2009 11:18:24 AM
I would of loved to of had kids, but it's too late for me now. I would of been a good mom.
 JWG86

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Posted: 11/20/2009 11:19:22 AM
To All The Posters that Can't Stand Kids for one reason or another.............
IT'S A PITY YOUR MOTHER DIDN'T FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT YOU FEEL.. Boo Hoo for you


No, instead our parents instilled in us the ability to think for ourselves and determine what we want instead of making us like everything they liked. Such a shame, I know.

Besides, who is to say all mothers love their children? Sounds like you grew up in a fairytale.



I would of loved to of had kids, but it's too late for me now. I would of been a good mom.


At age 35? Or is there an underlying condition?
 Lone lady here

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Posted: 11/20/2009 12:00:33 PM

At age 35? Or is there an underlying condition?


In a way it's both. An underlying condition that has worsened with age. What was once at least a possibility at 23 is no longer possible at 35. I could not see it being a good thing in my early twenties to have a baby for the sake of having a baby without having a husband by my side.That would of been very selfish.
 realsexyrealsmart

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Posted: 11/20/2009 12:37:57 PM
It's refreshing to see so many people who don't believe in having kids for selfish reasons. Thank you, everyone!

I personally believe that most people who have kids do so for selfish reasons, such as wanting attention and approval from others in their lives. If people were truly responsible when deciding whether or not to have children, far fewer children would be born. Also, the children born to such caring and responsible parents would be far happier. Just imagine what a positive effect this one change could have on the world!
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