| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 8:47:21 AM |
Obama elected president, big deal, it had to happen someday, but Bush it truly a miracle. Don't you agree?
I thought we would get a black president eventually, but George Bush is the reason Obama won a fairly easy election. If Bush had been just mediocore or just bad, Obama probably would not have stoof as chance. He took a country that was fairly evenly split politically and kicked it to the left by his actions. Anything the democrats are able to do for the next few years are solely due to the actions of Bush and his destruction of the moderate republicans. Many felt pushed out of the party and voted accordingly. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 8:52:17 AM | "The man is evil in it's highest form.
LOL... Actually he's a really nice guy. I met him once when he was running for governor here. Where he screwed up was choosing****Cheney as VP and not keeping him on a tighter leash... "
evil people are often slick talking nice people dedicated to their beliefs and values. Actually, those are excellent covers for evil to dupe the rest of the people. I learned long long ago to watch out for the 'nice' people. In my experience they do tend to be the evil ones.
Bush didn't choose Cheney .... Cheney and Rumsfeld chose Bush to be their 'front' | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 9:06:42 AM | What are you guys ****ing about?
You put him there in the first place so zip it and take it like you wanted it. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 9:19:19 AM |
he really didn't do anything all that out of the ordinary as U.S. presidents go.
Exactly! And that's a very scary thing. Hopefully Obama will change this though! :D | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 6:34:44 PM | I think Bush was a good president. I think he did much better than Brother Bill.
Were there mistakes? Oh heck yes. Am I happy with everything he did? No! But I think that the war kind of drowned his admistration. I think had we not seen 9/11, things would have been much better for him. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 8:16:46 PM |
Who or what could have been an acceptable choice in between? 535 members of Congress plus 50 state governors (well, ok, except for Ah-nuld) plus a dozen of so mayors or former mayors of large cities; probably at least 1/3 of those 584+ career politicians have the organizational and leadership skills to run the country, or at least the skills to hire the staff to run the country. It's not like we have a shortage of ambitious politicians here.
It's the events and the circumstances that make the President; without 9/11, Dubya would have been just another mediocre Republican tool of the rich.
Oh, wait- | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 6/1/2009 8:23:40 PM | If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?
If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip? If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had a Republican Congress allocate 5.6 Billion dollars for a civilian volunteer security force, as strong and well equipped as the regular Army and under his personal authority, would you have been concerned? If George W. Bush had proposed doubling the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had then proposed doubling the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had promised detailed tracking of the spending from a $785 Billion Stimulus Bill and then postponed that oversight until 2010, would you approve or would you think something "smelled fishy"? If Bush had promised 48 hour advance posting of the same bill on the internet and only released it two hours before congressional approval, would you wonder what was being hidden from the public? If Bush's White House Staff had spent over $300,000 flying Airforce One low over New York (for a publicity photo flyby with the Statue of Liberty) frightening the city, wouldn't you have expected Bush to make the pictures public? Would you have approved? Obama won't give them up, but he will release the secret "torture memos". If George W. Bush had been "addicted" to using a TelePrompTer, and was afraid to give a speech without having one, would you have approved ? Would you think he was intelligent? If George W. Bush had pre-approved/pre-picked the list of reporters allowed to ask questions at his press conferences and refused to call on the correspondent from MSNBC (FOX with Obama), would you have approved? Is that a Fair and Balanced news conference? If George W. Bush and a Republican Congress had given hundreds of millions of dollars to a group (the right-wing equivalent of ACORN) after its members had been convicted of voter registration fraud, would you approve of them to doing the 2010 Census, which will determine congressional districts for 10 years? Will you trust ACORN in 2010? Would you have approved of George W. Bush moving the Census from the Dept. of Commerce into the White House and putting his Chief of Staff in control of the counting?
Is this the change that we can believe in ???? Obama has done all this in 14 weeks -- so we still have three years and eight-and-a-half months full of surprises to come.
I guess someone let their alligator mouth overload their parakeet ass | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 10:46:17 AM | | I hate how people are blaming Obama for the Recession and Horrible Economy, meanwhile we were already in a Recession when Bush was still in office. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 11:11:49 AM | LOL... Actually he's a really nice guy. I met him once when he was running for governor here.
Hmm... although "really nice guy" is subjective, I'm not sure meeting someone once while that person is on the campaign trail is an entirely effective way to gauge "niceness." It's certainly not what most would use as justification for an opinion like that.
Some define "nice" as "gee he'd be fun to have a beer with."
Some define "nice" as " he's not willing to spew hatred of others."
Some define "nice" as "he's not willing to kill people under false pretenses using the power given to him by the American people."
There are endless ways to gauge nice. Shouldn't what happens on the campaign trail be at the bottom of the list, regardless?
I cringed every time I heard him use the word "crusade"... That little slip didn't help us one bit What makes you call it a "slip?"
Hillary on the other hand... THERE'S some evil incarnate! I hope they are keeping her and Cheney away from each other. Who is "they?" What makes you think Cheney is anywhere around? If you met Clinton you'd likely be starstruck again and deem her "really nice" for schmoozing you... | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 11:18:09 AM | I have to disagree, i think it is probably the most compulsive evidence to date supporting the idea that secret societies control the US government and probably many others, think about it, how else could a guy who could easily be Tommy Smothers long lost twin brother get elected to the white house when his only qualification was being a member of the Skull and Bones society? I'm suprised we survived him having his finger on the Nookular button! Our new prez has just begun another war front by starting military action back up in Somalia | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 12:25:14 PM | Thanks to Obama, it's easy to admire George Bush...
He didn't smoke in the White House.
He didn't have a wife who wasn't proud of America.
He didn't believe there are 57 states.
He didn't sit for 20 years in a racist church.
He didn't appoint tax cheats to high offices.
He didn't allow airforce 1 to fly over New York while being chased by a fighter jet.
He didn't lack military experience.
He didn't insult the British by sending back the bust of Churchill.
He didn't put our allies in danger by withholding promised missile defenses.
He didn't pull off the biggest money and power grab in history.
He didn't associate with convicted terrorists.
He didn't embrace dictators while shunning democratically elected heads of state.
And most important of all... he did not try to make a religion of himself by referring to his supporters as "God's people" while referring to his opposers as "bearers of false witness", or referring to his ideas as a "sacred vision", or promising to "lead my people out of bondage", or saying "believe in me", or promising an "epiphany" to his disciples, or referring to his "covenant of perfection", while his followers shouted "Obama be thy name", raised their hands to him, clapped, shouted, sang, danced, and some were even "slain in the spirit". Yes indeed, the longer Obama, who has all the earmarks of the prophesied "false prophet", is president, the more one has to admire George Bush. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 12:25:29 PM | It shows that anyone can become president and become successful regardless of skills
^^ I do agree that in its own way Bush's story is (certainly inadvertently I think) inspirational. He did break a glass ceiling of sorts for spoiled, over-privileged, rich WASP punks with influential fathers who are overcoming substance abuse and behavioral problems. Bret Easton Ellis IMO should actually write the definitive surreal tale of "W" becoming President, and all of what followed as well.. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:16:05 PM |
He didn't lack military experience.
lot of wacky and wild stuff in that post but thats the funniest.
military experience? if you mean draft dodging, then yes, he had a great deal of experience. if you mean having a clue about the military, I'd say his starting two of the most disastrous and expensive wars in US history sort of speaks for itself.
what ever "military experience" he had sure didn't show up in his eight years in office. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:33:56 PM | | Bush is a military trained fighter pilot. He flew the F102 Delta Dart. His dad was a WWII combat pilot and had been commander in chief. So he had a lot of firsthand and secondhand military experience to draw upon. By contrast, militarily speaking, Obama has never even flown a kite, and his dad knocked up his mom and skipped town. Knowing all of this, if Bush's military experience is weak, what does that say about Obamas? By any fair measure, Obama makes Bush look admirable. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:39:53 PM | ^^^No, Obama never claimed to be a military man and never played "dress up" in military gear pretending to be one.
I think it is actually worse to claim to be something - and go awol - then never to claim to be one in the first place.
Obama's path was to go to law school, become an expert on Constitutional law and become a professor at Harvard. Obama obviously showed up to class.
But, back to the topic of the thread . . . I admire Bush for completely disappearing after leaving office. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:46:49 PM | Same ole, the opinions of people who served in the US military are worth more than people who dont. What difference does it make, surely a persons intelligence and what they have achieved counts for more.
cheers F.P. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:56:32 PM | Indysarge, aside from the fact that many of your assertions are factually inaccurate (about both Bush and Obama) I respectfully suggest that your expectations are skewed.
I don't admire my neighbor to the left simply because my neighbor to the right is a pedophile.
I don't admire one coworker because another coworker steals from the company.
I don't admire one friend because another friend cheated on his wife.
Based on your post, this is how you come to admire someone. That doesn't make sense. Yet that is what you've indicated. Well, it's either that or you were just making gratuitous and off-topic remarks about Obama, and surely that isn't the case.
I encourage you to recognize positive accomplishments and positive actions on their own merits. It minimizes wrinkles.
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Bush is a military trained fighter pilot. He flew the F102 Delta Dart. His dad was a WWII combat pilot and had been commander in chief. So he had a lot of firsthand and secondhand military experience to draw upon. By contrast, militarily speaking, Obama has never even flown a kite, and his dad knocked up his mom and skipped town. You do have a point here, INDYSARGE. Parental behavior during the time period of conception is arguably the most valuable experience to have, "militarily speaking." I also thank you for the insight. I was not aware that Obama has never flown a kite. Maybe now that he has a big yard he will pick up a new hobby. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush Posted: 9/22/2009 1:57:33 PM | hey yo, I served in the military and if you ask me Bush was AWOL as all hell his last few years in the Air Guard. his records are more than dodgy.
and when it comes to being a "military man" screwing around doing a few training missions is not exactly warrior time. | |
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