| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/22/2009 9:37:57 PM | Not many would agree with the "successful" part.
In fact, just about everything the guy touched turned to sh**....his team, his oil company...
some would say his country.
He's much maligned, but actually the neocons got us into Iraq; Wolfewitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, etc.
Perle even co-authored a thinktank paper for the prime minister of Israel, and back then it was decided that regime change in Iraq was best policy for the safety of Israel. They said that Saddam was a threat to Israel, and this is probably true, especially since he was paying the families of suicide bombers 20K every time some dummy blew himself up on Israeli soil.
I think that it might also have had to do with the rumor that Saddam was trying to get the middle east oil producers to stop trading in dollars, which would have ruined the entire petrodollar domination which gives us so much leverage.
I think that Bush was basically just a patsy, and was in over his head.
And by the way, I'm not sure that Obama isn't the same kind of patsy; notice that he hasn't done anything at all about the Wall St. thievery. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/22/2009 9:46:19 PM |
... was in over his head. He was definitely in over his head. Being a patsy suggests some innocense; I don't think he was/is at all innocent, but definitely way over his head. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 3:54:45 AM | | I feel the opposite. Bush rode daddy's coat-tails. I don't admire Obama either, he spent roughly 1 billion dollars to buy the presidency. I will say that Obama and Clinton both could weave one hell of a speech! They could tell the American public any darn thing they want, which they have, and say it in a way that people will swallow hook, line, and sinker. Something Bush couldn't do to save his life. Have you actually heard Bush II speak? How can you say he has speech skills? He can't even read a teleprompter. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:13:53 AM | Everyone hates Bush, but actually he is a role model to everyone.
It shows that anyone can become president and become successful regardless of skills, but with the right persuasive and speech skills.
I truly admire Bush, it is indeed a miracle that he stayed in office for 8 years. Obama elected president, big deal, it had to happen someday, but Bush it truly a miracle.
Don't you agree?
I definitely threw up in my mouth.
A 'miracle'...not when you check out the machinery behind Bush II.
This wasn't a case of 'anyone can become president', but 'if you have enough money,
and a pack of blood-thirsty jackels running the show, you can become the puppet-on-a-string pseudo head of the government'. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 7:33:45 AM | | By the last , say, 1 to 2 years of his presidency, about the only thing he could have done to make me (seriously) admire and/or respect his decisions and so forth would have been to have called a primetime press conference and publicly resigned , followed by his VP as well. But see we can't do that here even if the leaders were so inclined (which of course they are not), because of the way the system is set up. In Europe for example his gov't likely , by the last few yrs at least, would have fallen apart and new elections would have to have been called, so perhaps one gov't alone would not have been able to do 8 full years worth of damage (or at least 6 or 7 -- his first couple yrs were not IMO quite as bad ). IMO, 9/11 notwithstanding, he didn't start really crashing and burning, so to speak, until the Iraq invasion and particularly his "Mission Accomplished" stunt on the carrier, and so forth. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 10:35:50 AM |
By the last , say, 1 to 2 years of his presidency, about the only thing he could have done to make me (seriously) admire and/or respect his decisions
And isn't it hilarious that during the last two years of his presidency all he was doing was whatever the democrat controlled Congress wanted him to. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 10:39:15 AM |
And isn't it hilarious that during the last two years of his presidency all he was doing was whatever the democrat controlled Congress wanted him to.
Interesting theory... | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 11:35:18 AM | all he was doing was whatever the democrat controlled Congress wanted him to.
^^ I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but at the same time the Democrat-controlled Congress have not exactly been superstars either, IMO, as far as their performance and so forth (which is not to say I'd prefer a Republican one, far from it; just saying....). With some exceptions (IMO), too many of them are just "Republican-Lite" anyway, in the pockets of the same corporate lobbies and "complex" interests (military-industrial, prison-industrial), etc. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 1:41:48 PM | | He showed us that a dry drunk, coke head, AWOL, priviledged war dodger, can grow up to be a war criminal, mass murderer, and chronic liar, and still avoid, trial conviction and execution...thus far. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 1:46:16 PM | >>>I truly admire Bush, it is indeed a miracle that he stayed in office for 8 years. Obama elected president, big deal, it had to happen someday, but Bush it truly a miracle.
Don't you agree?<<<<
well you are entitle to your view Sir.
Like others offered , every body doesn't really hate Bush 43 the man.
I've met him before he was governor or president ~ I'll admit he's done little to make me like him anymore since those days.
Bush 43 rise to President didn't happen as you might think it did. ~ But started many years ago ~ with redistricting here in Texas. It was a big state battle between the two parties that went on for almost a year in open conflict. Towards the end many Democratic State Senators were refusing to show up for a vote ~and was hiding out in protest. The powers that be, threaten to issued a warrant for their arrest. ~ The story is quite long. ~ This all was setting the stage for a shoe in of simple George. It was a GOP "power play" and it worked! and it worked again! just bearly! and the it worked again!
So ~ NO, Gorgie's rise to power is not indictative that "just anyone" might do the same and a truly unqualified person might obtain such a lofty position and claim it "American"
This should only show the power the GOP once had over the nation and still fights for to this very day. They are a cleaver bunch. They sent us to hell ~ and the majority of the people were excited about the trip.
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 2:43:35 PM | | I actually thought George Bush was amusing...........always enjoyed watching him put his foot in his mouth..........botching his 'well rehearsed' speeches.......what a 'crack up' | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 4:13:23 PM | | ^^I think I would have felt the same way if I was on the outside looking in. (I'm assuming that you aren't a US citizen; pardon me if I'm assuming too much.) I often found it difficult to be amused because I was embarrassed to be represented by him. As the end neared I often felt like I was figuratively holding my breath waiting for the discomfort to be over. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 4:30:53 PM | The Bush haters are so ignorant. History will vindicate him.
Right.
Like...Hitler...and Mussolini...and...Rasputin...Gadhafi...and...Saddam Hussein...and...Lex Luthor...and Ivan the Terrible...Atilla the Hun...Bonnie AND Clyde...
Sorry to burst the balloon, but facts are...well...you know--FACTS.
And the facts are that Bush II attacked a country that had not attacked us, and that he stretched the truthiness about the WMD in Iraq.
So, vindication is definitely off the list.
PS,
One doesn't have to hate Bush II to see the truth. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 4:39:15 PM | I don't hate George Bush and I don't like him either. I definitely DON'T admire him.
If you asked the soldiers who were sent to Iraq you might find out just how popular he is..............not.
The thing I miss most about him not being president anymore are David Letterman's "Bush" moments..............OMG I have never laughed and cried so much in my entire life.
And yes even though I live in Australia we are up with all the current events...................LOL | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 5:43:25 PM | Dance,
As usual, well said and accurate. You need to read and post in the
What's going to happen to America thread
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 5:53:21 PM |
I actually thought George Bush was amusing...........always enjoyed watching him put his foot in his mouth..........botching his 'well rehearsed' speeches.......what a 'crack up'
you didn't have to pay the bill for that foot in mouth routine. its about $10 trillion a show. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 5:55:58 PM | | Op, this may be a great statement but listen to Robin Williams where his Bush reference is that some men achieve greatness and some get it as a birthday present. | |
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