| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 5:57:29 PM | | I admire the fact that the last three presidents all experimented with drugs. Kind of takes the fuel out of the argument that you won't do anything with your life if you do drugs. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:04:42 PM |
all he was doing was whatever the democrat controlled Congress wanted him to.
^^ I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but at the same time the Democrat-controlled Congress have not exactly been superstars either,
as hard as it might be for me to defend the whores of congress. When the Dem's finally did take control of congress, many things were already in play they could do little about, but held hostage by the decisions made by the prior congress. Once fired , putting the bullet back in the gun is next to impossible. Not unlike our current affairs of state, Our problems didn't start January 22nd 2008 regardless what some might wish to believe or offer you.
I highly respect the office of President, that someone like Bush or Palin might think they are somehow worthy by virtue of some unexplainable gift of insight for the office, their ambition has no boundries and knows no limits. They are a danger to themselves and those around them.
43 was a pawn, a face, a front man for a political machine that had clear objective and simple purpose, "Pillage and Plunder" increasing personal wealth for all that went along and helped them make it so.
But down deep you should have known that without me telling you so.
This machine is still alive today ~ and looking for a new front man, so far there is no takers. ~ One will step forward only to fade back into the back ground when they feel the heat.
This machine looks for the simplest minds and greedy among us to carry out their work.
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:19:38 PM | Funny post. The guy is no longer President so it's really a mystery to me why you guys are so focused on rehashing things a year later. If our kids were doing this we'd tell them to get over it and move on with their lives and focus on fixing whatever damage has been done.
All the rhetoric isn't doing anything except diverting our attention from coming together and making some long term fixes to benefit all of us. You are giving the politicians exactly what they want and that is a divided population so busy fighting amongst ourselves that we fail to realise they are ALL part of the problem.
Keeping us divided and busy fighting keeps us from taking action and holding them accountable for the mess that both parties have helped to create through greed and corruption. Bush wasn't inept and neither is Obama, they are smart enough to hand power back and forth between two parties sharing the same goal of keeping the same segment of society in power. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:33:27 PM |
If you asked the soldiers who were sent to Iraq you might find out just how popular he is..............not.
Last I heard, membership in the US Armed Forces is voluntary. Anyone who didn’t want to be sent to Iraq, didn’t have to enlist. And being POTUS and Commander in Chief isn't a popularity contest. But even so, I'd bet you're wrong.
... so it's really a mystery to me why you guys are so focused on rehashing things a year later.
It’s the programming, it's been pretty effective. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 7:30:52 PM | No It's the thread title !
so why are you weighing in?
You knew from the thread title what it was about, before you clicked you mouse, so spare us your self righteous platitudes.
As far the military, they have amended their US citizens rights when they joined up, just as I did, as my father did. But that don't stop them from having a point of view worthy consideration.
That both young men and women in this country failing to find meaningful employment and are unable to provide for their family's find military service an option? You would wish to discount their opinions? I find you attitude most calloused and common with anyone that might wish to discuss the failures of the Bush Administration that you so joyfully supported. I have no plans to let you forget it. I will never unite with you so you can forget all the warm and fussy talk about uniting, ~ Got it?
It's going to take 10 years to undo this mess! ~ so what happen last year is germane to today and tomorrow and the next day. Are we clear on that? I be glad to show you some "programming" ~
Bush wasn't smart enough to pour piss out of a boot if the instructions wasn't written on the heel.
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 8:28:08 PM |
all the warm and fussy talk...
It's fuzzy... not fussy.
from Webster Online...
Main Entry: fussy
Pronunciation: \ˈfə-sē\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): fuss·i·er; fuss·i·est
Date: 1831
1 : easily upset : irritable
2 : overly decorative
3 a : requiring or giving close attention to details b : revealing a sometimes extreme concern for niceties : fastidious, picky | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 9:40:56 PM |
When the Dem's finally did take control of congress, many things were already in play they could do little about, but held hostage by the decisions made by the prior congress. Once fired , putting the bullet back in the gun is next to impossible. Not unlike our current affairs of state, Our problems didn't start January 22nd 2008 regardless what some might wish to believe or offer you.
^^ I agree. I'm just saying.... well, IMO, the Dem-controlled Congress hasn't acted aggressively enough for my taste (perhaps aggressively is the kind of word I'm looking for) , especially lately. I guess I basically agree with Bill Maher on it, when he said he never thought he'd say this but what Obama needs is a little of Bush in him; a little of Bush's attitude. That they are GOING to get some of these things done, with or without the other side of the aisle, and that's going to be that.
We can say what we want about them (and I've got plenty to say about them) but the Bush admin DID in many or most cases get done the things they wanted to get done, with or without the other side of the aisle (back when they controlled Congress and the White House that is), and they were not constantly pandering to this (increasingly chimerical IMO) idea of some kind of day of grand bipartisanship hand-holding and mutual accord. Hell they weren't even the least bit worried about what their critics were saying most of the time...and that's DOMESTIC critics; they basically pissed all over the opinions of any critics from the rest of the world...you know, annoying things like leaders of other countries who had previously been friends and allies, irritating international bodies like the UN and such which try to induce nations to refrain from invading other nations without just cause, and so on...
So Obama & his Dem-controlled Congress IMO could take a page from that playbook (not the whole book certainly, but a page), and perhaps he will start soon (I'm thinking in regards to this healthcare thing for example). | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/23/2009 10:41:11 PM | true but outside of the two wars and the patriot act bush didn't really do anything.
hell, the GOP held congress for six years and then never once really addressed their pro-life plank.
and I'll be very happy without any bushiness. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 1:01:31 AM | dasein2 on 9/22/2009 1 53 PM
Subject: We should ALL admire George Bush
think it is actually worse to claim to be something - and go awol - then never to claim to be one in the first place.
I think Dan Rather got fired for these type of statements about George Bush. If you are going to make dumb statements please do them in the jokes forums. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 2:31:15 AM | "Last I heard, membership in the US Armed Forces is voluntary. Anyone who didn’t want to be sent to Iraq, didn’t have to enlist. And being POTUS and Commander in Chief isn't a popularity contest. But even so, I'd bet you're wrong."
The national guard was not supposed to become the international guard nation building machine. Stop loss has prevented folks from getting out after repeated deployments. PTSD rates, homelessness, divorce, and suicides have soared among active duty personel and veterans because some dumbazz chickenhawk did not listen to his daddy's advice and get us into two quagmires. For many in the services, their economic station in life dictated that the only way to obtain a higher education was to play the military lottery...get out alive and sane and go to school. For others, like a young man of my acquaintence, youthful patriotism drew him into service, they sent him into a massacre of civilians, and dumped him for psychological issues after that.
Rather was fired not because he was wrong, but because he was set up with a forged document and went with it. Bushie did use family connections to avoid Vietnam service, and he was hiding out near a postal reserve unit with no planes in the summer of 72, missing the excitement of the Easter Offensive and Operation Linebacker that so many of us less priviledged kids had to attend. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 4:57:25 AM | If anyone would bother looking into the firing of Rather, they will find much impropriety .
The Panel hired by CBS to investigate it, consisted of only two men. What kind of panel might that be? One of these men had held a cabinet position for the former Senior Bush and a stanch GOP supporter the other, with media awards as long as your leg but with "unknown" politic affiliation. ~ Rather sued for 70 million, ~ Rather attorney was denied panel "finding" as they claimed client/attorney privilege. ~ The jest of all this "JOKE" as you called it? ~ "Leave Bushy Boy alone" he's got juice. So Bush enjoyed favorable press by many until his foolish follies could be ignored no more.
Amerian's have been "played" all the way down the line regarding "Bush" as I stated he was a political machines "Poster Boy" created just for you. Many are to this day, "still buying it" refusing to believe they've been dooped. At the end of his administratio, as things started all falling apart, lies being uncovered ~ I think that he was humbled by the job, knowing what part he had played in it and the effects it had over the world. It wasn't fun anymore to play the part. Goergie grew up but it was too late. The waking is the only thing I "might" admire him for.
If you see it different, you haven't done the work.
Yes Dino, you are correct ~ but Obama or the DNC don't conduct business with the zeal and contempt of others like the GOP.
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 7:43:16 AM | The famous Bush ranch was one of those props like the plastic turkey and the aircraft carrier performance in costume. It was bought in anticipation of his presidential run to build an image. Vincente Fox noted that Bush was a "Windshield Cowboy", one who would rather drive than ride, that he appeared to be fearful of horses. President Fox also noted that Bush was "the****est guy I have ever met in my life".
Bush spent 490 days at his faux ranch, whacking weeds and terrorizing doves for fun. Not much different than his childhood when he was blowing up frogs for fun. Buckfush. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 7:54:47 AM |
Definitely not!!!!!! The man is evil in it's highest form.
Umm... I think you meant STUPID in its highest form.
He was a puppet. The ones that really scared me were Cheney and Rumsfeld.
Rumsfeld was the one that scared me the most. That man could be raping his mother right in front of you and tell you that you obviously were seeing it all wrong.
Those three combined were a plague on society. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 8:00:44 AM |
I think Dan Rather got fired for these type of statements about George Bush.
yeah, funny about that. so who was the last conservative commentator who got fired for slandering obama?
please, W skated his way thru the war. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 9:05:24 AM | " I find you attitude most calloused and common with anyone that might wish to discuss the failures of the Bush Administration that you so joyfully supported. I have no plans to let you forget it. I will never unite with you so you can forget all the warm and fussy talk about uniting, ~ Got it?"
Dance. I take it that that was aimed at me? I am a little surprised since I usually find your posts pretty insightful and you able to cut through some of the rhetoric. I will say though that have no idea what policies I supported or didn't support because while I see some of the posters claiming to speak for me and the rest of the militaryby painting us all with one brushstroke , I just retired from the military after 26 years and spent much of the last 8 in some of the shittiest places in the world and I was not a joyful Bush supporter and in fact was railing about policies that were sending most of our jobs overseas during his first term.
If you read my post, I am not nor have been Pro Bush but I do find it counter-productive wasting energy discussing a man who no longer matters instead of focussing on fixing thing. As far as the warm and fuzzy, I don't really care if those on the left or the right join with us in fixing things, if you aren't going to be part of the solution then just continue to say we can't fix things because so and so broke it while the rest of us try to come up with solutions by trying to get meaningful and lasting change. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 9:24:34 AM |
All the rhetoric isn't doing anything except diverting our attention from coming together and making some long term fixes to benefit all of us. You are giving the politicians exactly what they want and that is a divided population so busy fighting amongst ourselves that we fail to realise they are ALL part of the problem.
Keeping us divided and busy fighting keeps us from taking action and holding them accountable for the mess that both parties have helped to create through greed and corruption. Bush wasn't inept and neither is Obama, they are smart enough to hand power back and forth between two parties sharing the same goal of keeping the same segment of society in power.
Amen! 
No matter what side of the fence you stand on, to remain blindly angry and blameful at the other side rather than working to genuinely fix things is to volunteer yourself to be used as a pawn. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 9:32:32 AM | " Amerian's have been "played" all the way down the line regarding "_ _ _ _ _ " as I stated he was a political machines "Poster Boy" created just for you. Many are to this day, "still buying it" refusing to believe they've been dooped" as I stated he was a political machines "Poster Boy" created just for you. Many are to this day, "still buying it" refusing to believe they've been dooped."
Just fill in the blanks, it seems that Bush isn't the only one who fits this statement..... | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 10:15:30 AM | | I also hate how a lot of people are blaming Obama for the current Recession, meanwhile we were already in a Recession when Bush was still in office, basically Obama is just trying to clean up the mess that Bush made. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 10:23:50 AM | | I don't think people are blaming Obama for the Recession they just aren't happy with how he is handling it. His focus has been on Health Care reform when it should be on unemployment and economic growth....He sold a "Stimulus" plan that isn't stimulating the economy and since then he hasn't done much to create new jobs..Unemployment is in the double digits now.....In way he did play a small part in causing the recession he worked as a lawyer for ACORN to sue banks that were not making loans to high risk potential borrowers....the Left always downplays the impact that the Housing situation had on creating this economic situation but it did play a part in it.... | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 12:59:15 PM |
the Left always downplays the impact that the Housing situation had on creating this economic situation but it did play a part in it.... Gosh this is downright inaccurate. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 1:34:26 PM | "the Left always downplays the impact that the Housing situation had on creating this economic situation but it did play a part in it...."
I have to agree that this is an inacurate statement, I think the left does know that the Housing situation had a huge impact on it but then again, I think we also forget that for almost 2 years Gas and Energy costs where going through the roof and I wonder how many jobs lost as a result of having to cut jobs because of that fact. We all had a part to play either directly through our actions or indirectly through inaction as we watched it all start to crumble and slip away. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 5:59:10 PM | Please Forgive me templar ~ it was never my intentions to ever single your posting out. I respect your views and posting. I took excepting that some would think military personal, might by virtue of volunteering for service be somehow victims of their own decisions and their voices muted . I took exception that some would offer "We have been "PROGRAMED" to hate Bush! after enduring Fox News for years,? that's ~ absurd! We know what programing is when we hear it! ~ It flew all over me and I spoke out with barbed retort and great resentment. As myself being one that's been on the receiving end of poor judgement and left hanging out to dry by superiors, GI's have opinions, they just don't have the bill of rights. There's only one thing a soldier can't do and that's to refuse a lawful order. But that in no way void his opinion.
Consider yourself a victim of "friendly fire" and don't consider it directed at you, you just happen to be standing next to the wrong person and caught a little flack.
As far as housing ~ It's a big ticket item! the biggest single item most Americans ever invest in. Most Americans are not use too or familiar with the process on dropping 100 to 300 grand in one day.
So there are people in place, referred to as "professionals" to assist them in this process, this transfer of wealth.
If you wish to steal and cheat ~ there is no better place to be then in this loop of selling and buying. ~ And that exactly where these vultures were. ~ That some might wish to blame just the hopeful buyers is truly absurd and very near sighted.
While some loans might have been foolish, who's the most foolish? the one asking for them or the one's offering them?
And this is just a small diversion and a side issue in regards to the present economic down turn, however it does affect a lot of people directly.
The house built of cards folded in. The better days everyone hoped for failed to come.
American's maxed out their buying power and "more" never came. Too much disparity, in imports/exports, in wages, salaries and bonuses. Too much for too long. Too much US dollars going overseas and not coming back.
Some say too much regulation , some say too little. I say what regulation that was in place wasn't doing their jobs and wasn't really regulating at all.
I don't feel it's a matter of needing more as much as we need whats in place to work.
Much like Home Land Security ~ we don't need such an agency, ~ We need a CIA, FBI, ATF and Immigration that "Works" But what we got is more Fed that don't work well, we just throw another "player" into the Federal mix to fight for budget dollars and quibble among agencies, adding one more player in the game of unintelligent intelligence.
We are in the tank and we took the rest of the world with us because business was conducted poorly and "loss prevention" or solid oversight was ignored or poorly managed ~ however you wish to look at it.
We have experience 7 years of a major "Grab Fest" ~ across the board, from the top all the way down to the bottom.
Today our administration attempts to address this conduct and finding it most difficult for most of the active player in this "Grab Feast" as still in place. And the American people are really uncertain as to who to trust anymore. So we blame it on this and that one, this reason and that reason.
We need oversight! and we need it to work and work well, with the power and authority to carry out it's purpose.
If you wish to demand any one thing of this administration ~ demand that.
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 7:44:22 PM | I think he is talking about me Templar, even thought I never said anything about uniting or use the word ‘hate’. I think my post was clear enough.
And nobody is forced to endure Fox News. That’s just absurd.
the Left always downplays the impact that the Housing situation had on creating this economic situation but it did play a part in it....
Gosh this is downright inaccurate.
Agreed. The ‘left’ doesn’t downplay the impact that housing had on the economy, they just downplay that they had anything to do with it. | |
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| We should ALL admire George Bush
Posted: 9/24/2009 8:26:43 PM | ^^In all seriousness, I think you're either misunderstanding the information presented to you (out in the world, I don't mean on PoF) or you're just choosing to make up random opinions which are contrary to facts that are easily obtainable.
Strange. | |
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