| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 10:09:52 AM | | I agree with thisisgettingoldfast. Certain stereotypes exist because they are true. The one Russian woman I had the misfortune to get involved with was very beautiful, very intelligent and very stylish. Unfortunately she thought only of herself and what she could get from other people. I felt that even if she had been with the most handsome, kindest man in the world, she would leave him for an ugly unkind man with a larger wallet. Even the most basic concepts of equality didn't apply - she always insisted that I made plans; she needed to be entertained. It was a combination of greed and egomania, friendship didn't come into it. I recommend that people watch the film 'Darling' (even if it is about a British woman)to appreciate the psychology of Russian women. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 1:57:51 PM | OP, if the lady you are dating is over 40 then she is probably more traditional in relationships. As some other posters have already mentioned earlier, not all, but many women who grew up in the former Soviet Union expect a man to be a leader and a protector. And they expect to be courted. In return, if the relationship develops, you'll be well taken care off at home.
However, if she is a new emigrant without a legal right for a permanent residence in the US I'd be careful about being used for a Green Card. I mean being careful and paying attention, not simply assuming that this is the only thing she needs from you. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 1:59:49 PM | Why would you wine and dine a w0man that does not seem to reciprocate on a level that you can understand in any language? You should ask yourself that question. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:12:03 PM |
Why would you wine and dine a w0man that does not seem to reciprocate on a level that you can understand in any language? You should ask yourself that question If you don't feel reciprocated then you shouldn't dine and wine her. It only works for the men who like traditional roles. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:18:19 PM | Misc life's note:
Some Russian women, are totally worth it. But if they are just playing U. Then U had better beware, with a capital B. Cuz russian hotties, just want to have fun, but they will destroy your lame americanazz, if your not their type.
Misc WW2 fact, 20 million russians, died in that war, they are some strong willed,dangerous MF'ers. The Av. american male, had better pass on them, for hiz own good. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:21:40 PM | I come from a country that has very, very beautiful women. They are also very high maintenance and remind me of Russian women. They do take excellent care of their looks, they know how to flirt and they know how to take advantage of a situation if it presents itself. For instance, if you buy them dinner, bring them flowers, do all that stuff, they will love it. Notice I said love IT. Not YOU.
I know I am going to get hammered for what I am about to say, but here's what has been my experience. Treat them well, like I mentioned above and they will treat you like a used rag. Tread them like a use rag and they will not get enough of you. Now, this sounds kind of sick, but like someone here mentioned, Russian men have huge alcohol problems, and tend to be brutes in their relationships with women. So even though these women would love to be treaded nice, when you do, it doesn't do anything for them. You become "their friend" or really a girlfriend. But you put them in their proverbial place and then they come to you.
Also, unlike American women that like to single date even from the first date, they tell you right off the bat that they are seeing other people as well. That was my experience with the only Russian woman I have gone out. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:33:02 PM |
I know I am going to get hammered for what I am about to say, but here's what has been my experience. Treat them well, like I mentioned above and they will treat you like a used rag. Tread them like a use rag and they will not get enough of you. Now, this sounds kind of sick, but like someone here mentioned, Russian men have huge alcohol problems, and tend to be brutes in their relationships with women. So even though these women would love to be treaded nice, when you do, it doesn't do anything for them. You become "their friend" or really a girlfriend. But you put them in their proverbial place and then they come to you. You can think this way if that’s your fancy, but this is not true in most cases. Especially for women who are not ethnically Russian, but more of “Russian speaking”. Those women who have lived in the US for years don’t have “fetish” of being treated like a “used rag”. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:38:06 PM |
For 3 months have been dating a woman who grew up in Russia, a rather good life I'm told. She seems to have a different attitude towards dating. I'm always the one making plans, calling, sending cute text messages, etc. with no reciprocation. Although I really like her and we have a great time together, I'm a little frustrated. She seems interested in me, but I can't tell if the behavior is typical hard-to-get or typical European.
Maybe you could play her at her own game and see how she responds? If you are sending a lot of messages etc, could she be feeling crowded? | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 2:41:26 PM | Per usual ~The Rock Man~, pretty much said it all. Dood, az in da OP, dont even mess with her, she will kill your dumbazz, or worse. But, nah, there aint no but, there U have it.
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 3:07:36 PM |
You can think this way if that’s your fancy, but this is not true in most cases. Especially for women who are not ethnically Russian, but more of “Russian speaking”. Those women who have lived in the US for years don’t have “fetish” of being treated like a “used rag”.
I think you fail to understand the issue. If you are of Russian descent, but grew up in the STATES, you are indeed AN AMERICAN. My gf is of Russian descent, but she's American. What I am talking and the OP is talking about is not about biological ethnicity but cultural upbringing. If you grew up in Kiev or Petrograd and your father is an alcoholic and until recently they had not much to live on, they are totally different that those that grew up here. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 4:04:16 PM | | I think East European women in general are very different when it comes to dating. In my experience with the 4 East European women I've encountered, they're looking for status rather than love. It also seems like they all think they're the best woman period and you need to do everything for them when they probably have plenty of other men ready to take your place. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 4:23:02 PM | i agree with the man above^^^^^^^^ the only russian bride i know was married to a rich older man and she had nothing but designer clothing and was spoiled and high maintenance. she wasn't a good friend and my kindness was not reciprocated. so i stopped being her friend. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 4:48:32 PM | I think you fail to understand the issue. If you are of Russian descent, but grew up in the STATES, you are indeed AN AMERICAN. My gf is of Russian descent, but she's American. What I am talking and the OP is talking about is not about biological ethnicity but cultural upbringing. If you grew up in Kiev or Petrograd and your father is an alcoholic and until recently they had not much to live on, they are totally different that those that grew up here. I think you've made too many assumptions here. OP said that his girlfriend had a happy childhood. By the way, not every father in Kiev or Petersburg is an alcoholic. In addition, OP never said that she was a newcomer to the US. She could have grown up in the Soviet Union, and have lived in the US for the last 15 years. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 4:54:41 PM | | There's no way in hell I would date a Sputnik! There was a reason for the cold war, why find out on a personal basis?? Stay away from her!! | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/8/2009 5:01:17 PM | You know guys, it amazes me how men are consistently complaining about "high maintenance girls" and all that jazz, yet the OP is still head over heels for this girl...I’ve come to learn that the majority of men DO in fact like the high maintenance kinda girls, and the ones that complain about it, are the ones that were rejected in the first place!
I may get slammed for this, but we all know that MEN love a challenge, had the woman in question been all over the OP he would have lost interest in her a long time ago!...
I also find it amusing how guys have created all these new labels to serve their OWN egos
If he pays for coffee...she's a gold-digger! If she doesn't smother him with the same affection....she's high maintenance!
Yet, if anyone of you guys that complain and use these labels were able to find a classy woman you would be drooling NOT complaining! | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/9/2009 11:25:22 AM | Arabianangel, I dont know about all of that. But I do know, your absolutely beautiful, so. Im going to agree, with everything U typed. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/9/2009 11:43:24 AM | | sounds like you are too eager, texting and calling all the time reeks of desperation. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/9/2009 10:02:40 PM | | Russian women are very different and if you have noticed, have a different word for everything. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/10/2009 5:57:52 AM |
Arabianangel, I dont know about all of that. But I do know, your absolutely beautiful, so. Im going to agree, with everything U typed.
Men...You truly are simple.  | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/10/2009 1:53:20 PM | In a word? YES!!
Four of my friends are married to Russian ladies or ladies from the FSU (former Soviet Union) and all but one of them are very happy. The one is someone who I would think is hard to live with and his "mail order bride" (which they are not BTW) put up with him for a year then divorced him but remained in the states. He is now re-married and very happy.
The other three guys are happy as a pig in you know what. Their wives are very nice ladies and they realize that they now have a chance in life and his world unlike they did not have back in the old country. I have been to Russia A LOT with my work and the above comments about Russian men (lazy, drunk) is spot on. About 30% of them seem to want to make something out of themselves and the rest are scammers and drunks. Trust me, been going there for 25 years.
The women from there can be some of the nicest in the world or in some cases have picked up bad ideas from their lives there. I have dated a couple of them and they are nice, good looking and rock your world in bed several times A DAY so they know how to keep a smile on a guys face. The ladies from the bigger cities (Moscow and St. Pete) tend to be real materialistic (not all but a lot) and have to have the newest cell phone the day it comes out, the newest $300 pair of sunglasses, hand-bag and so on. I do pretty well with my job and could not (or would not) afford it but some guys can.
Feel that a lady from the FSU from a smaller town would make someone a wonderful wife. Course could say the same thing about a woman from the US, Canada and so on. I tend to like independent ladies who are fine on their own but who want a man by their side because they like him, not need him, so did not pursue a wife from Russia.
Sounds like she is "on the fence" about going out with you. I would sit her down and ask if she has feelings for you or not and if its not immediately positive then move on. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/11/2009 10:54:09 AM | Why don't you let her know how you feel. Maybe tell her that you would very much like her to take some initiative and whether her interest in you is as strong as yours is in her.
If it wasn't as strong as yours, would you still date her? | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/11/2009 12:51:44 PM | | If they're 1st gen eastern European, that's normal. Over there, there's a social expectation for the men to be the aggressors. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/11/2009 6:05:59 PM | It is typical hard to get role playing most likely, designed to make you frustrated and wanting her more and more. They know exactly what they are doing and have studied how to catch a man to support them financially. It is an art form in Russia and I know you don't believe this but that's the way it is in Russia. Russian women do not intend to work. They intend to catch an American husband to support them and have studied this extensively the way women in America study to be lawyers.
I see now that you profile mentions you are "successful" so I'm not surprised to hear that a Russian woman is allowing you to persue her. I'm just being honest, not being mean so don't read anything into my attitude. I have tons of street smarts about these things. | |
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| Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 5/11/2009 9:39:40 PM | | Russian women are hard workers and can support Russian and American guys as well! Have you ever been to Russia? Probably, not. Russian women are shy and they have good manners! It's American guys who intend to catch Russian wives because they know how to take care of their husbands and kids! | |
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