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 hottgirl002

Joined: 1/12/2009
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Men wanting women only and not other men
Posted: 4/26/2009 7:43:49 PM
I know what its like being hit on by weman and gay guys , but I dont make nothing of it becouse they dont really know me .Im more comforble with bisexual guys becouse I have both of what they want . and Ive been with gay guys with the lights outs , when were have our intimate time together the guys say its just like being with a women , I just want to break out laughing , becouse later on I know I have to tell him the truth that infact he was in my snach . thats how I know some guys that say there gay are really bisexual , I been with more strait men than gay or bisexual men , but I dodnt ever you my male stuff so it dont matter , althou Im a hermaphrodite ,I am not gay becouse I have not been with anyone as the same gender as me and I dont want to eather , I only date men . but if someone is happy with who there with. as they say ,,, live and let live.
 eschec mat

Joined: 3/3/2009
Msg: 102
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Posted: 4/26/2009 8:00:30 PM
For a study to be considered scientific, it must use randomly selected individuals. The larger the sample the more accurate the results. This is why the study is considered flawed. Gosh, if you don't have an accurate representation or sample, you can't have an accurate study. Just Google Kinsey flawed research or definition of a study.

But I do agree that had the bug man not decided to start wife swapping etc., he may not have delved into his attempt which has led to good studies and research such as on AIDS/HIV.

Again, my original comment was to state that Kinsey report is misinformation as it has been scientifically proven to be wrong. Thus the study is flawed, simple scientific language.

OP great summation as to how you know you are straight. That was well written/explained.

I can't imagine asking someone online about their preferences. I have only gotten to know men to know where they stand with different ideas. Without differences, what a boring world it would be.
 Shenora2009

Joined: 3/24/2009
Msg: 103
a genetic aversion
Posted: 4/26/2009 11:31:59 PM

I love men. The way they smell, feel, and move. I Love their strength and their bravery.

By-the-way, the only time someone made a move on me was when I was in that bar with Daniel. I was very uncomfortable with it since I never once thought some other girl would find me the least bit gay. All I wanted to do was go home. Apparently, as much as I love my nephew and my female cousin, I am a homophobic...and I doth not protest too much. I usually don't talk about it but I know how I feel and it has nothing to do with religion.............

What it boils down to Shenora is that I have one of those things...I don't want one in my face.


OP ~ luv_n_theory ~

I do agree with you, men's hairy arms provide all the comfort I need and could never consider a female for intimacy EVER.

However, when I was just 7 years old, I had no clue what sex/intimacy/physical relation encompassed; but my playmate (a 6 years old girl) made a move on me. And even though I had no clue what was happening, I stopped her and told her that it was not a game I wanted to play.

I did not tell anyone, we did not talk about that stuff, but it stuck in my mind and I kept on questioning where did my friend learne that stuff.

There were a couple of other females that approached me in my 30th, and one I had to threaten to file sexual harassment if she would not stop commenting and hitting on me after I told her NO on several occasions.

But the strangest think is luv_n_theory that when I was around 26 years old, a guy that WAS gay approached me and we ended up having a relationship for about 2 years. I did not know he was/used to be gay, he told me that years and years later (no, I don’t have HIV or AIDS:) . We were in college, I was his 1st female and HE never went back to men during or after our relationship. He called last about 10 years ago and thanked me for changing his life (honest, I'm not making it up). It was the day he became a dad! He has a nice family now and a loving woman as wife LOL

Point is luv_n_theory that "IF" we connect with someone and form a Loving/Loyal relationship, the past or any crazy stuff vanish.

We all seek genuine love, and sexual drive derives from love/health/and whatever it is that attracted us in the 1st place.

luv_n_theory at 40-50 we are really at our best and ready to start a new life based on all the experience/wisdom we have acquired AND we ALL can look pretty good at this age if we do not over indulge.

Cheers!
 matchlight

Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 4/27/2009 1:19:00 AM
I like women, and *only* women. I'd never consider doing anything sexual with another man--I just don't have any desire for that. I know, though, that there are men who engage in homosexual acts, but don't regard themselves as gay in the least.
 windloverr

Joined: 2/29/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2009 3:52:54 AM
First, your nephew is way too full of himself, and dead wrong. Guys who fantasize about, or desire, a sexual liason with a man would ALL be DRAWN to gay men; giving your nephew a VERY biased sampling of "straight" men. I've lived in a gay household; and have never considered having sex with a man. I respected their preferences, and they respected mine; besides, babes hang out with gay guys, and somebody had to entertain, LOL. Please drop the "anal", "gay" references. What PART of your body you want stimulated has NOTHING to do with sexual preference...NOTHING. That would be like saying the men who masturbate MUST be gay, since they enjoy feeling a penis with their hand. Also, as one poster pointed out, MOST gay men DON'T like anal.
monfil Kinsey's findings have been scientifically proven to have been totally flawed. They were not conducted under a controlled study. He collected biased, solicited, etc. answers. I can't believe we are in 2009 and people still don't know that Kinsey studies have been disproved gahhh. Again, my original comment was to state that Kinsey report is misinformation as it has been scientifically proven to be wrong.
Wrong! Yes, his methodologies were flawed; but when corrected, the only change was a bit more of a conservative finding. ALL of the same behaviors occurred; the ONLY change was a drop in SOME statistics. i.e. NOTHING substantive changed; but some of the numbers became smaller...that's it. Besides you can't make a blanket statement like that, that is supposed to encompass all the data. If you have specific examples of Kinsey's "bad" information, AND "modern" "good" data, list them and reference them. I'm ALWAYS ready to change my beliefs/opinions when shown superior data.
Despite all of these many flaws, the data from the Kinsey Reports were the best data — and practically the only data — available on sexual behavior in the United States for more than 40 years.
Yes, Kinsey was a Zoologist who studied the Gall Wasp; however, he was the FIRST to do major studies on human sexuality. Before him "sexology" didn't exist!
Critics contend that Kinsey allowed his agenda to bias his work. They point to Kinsey's over-representation of prisoners and prostitutes and his classification of couples who have lived together for at least a year as "married".[16][17] However, other writers have said that any bias that might exist is not as severe as reported by some. For example, in the 1970s, Paul Gebhard removed all suspect data (e.g. pertaining to prisoners and similar respondents), and recalculated significant sets of figures against results given by "100 percent" groups. He found only slight differences between the original and cleaned figures. [18]
I wasn't able to find specific data showing the numbers. The REASON Kinsey did work with prisoners was because he COULDN'T readily access large numbers of gays because of the social ramifications of being "known" to be gay. Also, the funding DID NOT dry up because the data was bad, the funding dried up because of the conservative political backlash. Any company, or organization, caught funding studies of this nature faced a HUGE public backlash; and it was simply politically, socially, and economically expedient NOT to be seen funding these projects.
In the late 1980’s, the National Institutes of Health responded to the pressing need for accurate data by funding the National Opinion Research Center (NORC) to conduct a wide-ranging, highly detailed, and (most importantly) statistically representative survey of Americans sexual behavior. But Senator Jesse Helms and Rep. William Dannemeyer, fearing that Kinsey’s findings on homosexuality might be replicated, pushed through legislation which effectively cancelled that study. So during the midst of a national health crisis, Helms and Dannemeyer made the unconscionable choice of ignorance over sound health policy by blocking the collection of data which would have played an important role in dealing with the HIV/AIDS crisis.
And the beat plays on. Even if his studies were flawed, things like his homosexual/heterosexual scale are still absolutely valid and useful. NASA had a lot of bad data early on; but we didn't scrap the space program, or manned flight.

but my playmate (a 6 years old girl) made a move on me. And even though I had no clue what was happening, I stopped her and told her that it was not a game I wanted to play...I did not tell anyone, we did not talk about that stuff, but it stuck in my mind and I kept on questioning where did my friend learne that stuff.
The truly sad commentary here is that there is ONLY ONE WAY your friend could have learned that stuff. She was shown. She was either molested, OR had access to watching people, in person, or on film, performing the acts she attempted with you. ANY time you find a child with a greater than expected knowledge of sex and/or sexual practices, you should immediately have very strong suspecions of abuse! I would start by asking the child in a very friendly, non-threatening, matter of fact way, "who taught you how to do that?", or "Who have you seen do that?" If you don't get acceptable answers, call the authorities immediately.
 summergirl101

Joined: 1/18/2009
Msg: 106
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Posted: 4/27/2009 6:03:43 AM
i think the point being missed is some people will have sex with anyone/thing and some people will not
 mick2521

Joined: 3/9/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2009 6:29:31 AM
monfil,

Any non-random distribution in Kinsey's sample is negated, in my view, by the fact that in the 1940's there was an enormous stigma - much worse than today - surrounding male homosexual interactions. If there was a bias towards exaggerating the breadth of homosexual feelings in his subjects, it was more than negated by the massive stigma.

Kinsey also had the ability to make his male subjects comfortable. He got to know them, made them feel comfortable, and hence got more information out of them. It beats filling out a sex survey with your wife looking over your shoulder.
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 4/27/2009 7:57:48 AM
Once nakedtruth exposed most of them, they either backpedalled or went away.
 eschec mat

Joined: 3/3/2009
Msg: 109
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Posted: 4/27/2009 9:08:48 AM
I don't like to watch porn of any sort. I don't like women screwing men in the butt, so think about men with men, yeah that is the same thing, gross. The act is gross, not the people. Pretty simple concept.

I am tired of people claiming those that don't enjoy such kink are homophobic too. As I said before this is why I am posting on such threads. It doesn't make you homophobic or wrong to or not to enjoy anal crap. My preferences are pretty darned consistent. I am happy you are fascinated with my thoughts, but check my history you will find I always say what two people do behind closed doors is their business. That there is no such thing as normal, that is only a setting on a dryer. But most important is that I have been there done that so I do know what I do and don't prefer and can understand what the OP is looking for. That is what the thread is about. Can she find a straight man, yes she can because differences do exist.

I don't throw rocks. I will state scientific data that I am aware of. I will voice my opinions just as anyone can. If you don't care for them, that is your choice. I won't flame you for your choices, don't flame me.

You can not make me who I am not, I can only be who I am.

PS Windlover, please reread my post above. I think I have expressed enough about Kinsey and how anyone can find information regarding his survey.
 Shenora2009

Joined: 3/24/2009
Msg: 110
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Posted: 4/27/2009 10:45:12 AM
~ windloverr ~

I was 7 years old, wise one! I am glad that at least I could differentiate between what it was acceptable and not acceptable to PLAY at that young age, and I stopped the game; that’s all that matters!

How conveniently you advice after leaving out the fact that I was a child. Sure I know now that my friend was exposed to something inappropriate for her age, not sure what that was, not do I care to find out 4 decades later.

Life is what YOU make it. And one can live with integrity, regardless of their sexual preference.
 Gangster Kitten

Joined: 4/3/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2009 11:07:10 AM
Any person who is drunk out of their minds can do something they'd normally be adamantly against.

If the guy is so drunk he has no idea he's having sex with another man, that's totally possible. It has nothing to do with sexuality and everything to do with distorted perception.

Shit, I've been so drunk at times, any dude with long hair or a small frame looked like a chick to me. I didn't have sex with any of them though (I hope).
 seeker312

Joined: 7/4/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2009 11:25:03 AM
I have to agree with what the OP's nephew was saying. All it takes is a six-pack. But then again, it depends on the guy involved.

If you go out to someplace like Craigslist, you'll see multiple posts about a a gay man wanting to give oral to a guy. Gay or straight doesn't even matter. And to a certain segment of men, it doesn't matter either: One warm mouth is as good as another. For other guys, they may have suppressed their sexual desires because of society issues and those desires have just naturally percolated to the surface.

So, I guess the key for a woman is to develop some sort of litmus test as to whether the man she's with is hiding secret bisexual tendencies.
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 4/27/2009 12:13:32 PM

So, I guess the key for a woman is to develop some sort of litmus test as to whether the man she's with is hiding secret bisexual tendencies.


Test? Personally, being open-minded, which starts at listening could help someone admit to any bisexual tendancies. Most men would NOT admit these because of the backlash they would receive (which is evident in how many people have posted their reactions).

Since sex is important to me in a relationship, before commiting to anything or perhaps even participating in any sexual acts, I'd be having some pretty in-depth conversations. Since men who can't communicate their sexual needs/wants/desires don't hold much interest for me, I'd hope that any man would feel comfortable enough to admit if he has this tendencies. How else are we to find out whether we are on the same page?
 luv_n_theory

Joined: 4/15/2009
Msg: 114
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Posted: 4/29/2009 8:57:21 AM
so Wildheart how do you think the conversation should go?

Meet and like, conversation going pretty good...decide to meet for an actual date...go out on the date...dance, talk, walk enjoying the evening then the guy moves in for a kiss and what....

"UHm, hold up...first I need to know if you have any hidden sexual tendencies towards men". If he doesn't-kill joy...If he does-kill joy.

That conversation will never be one that can come up and a guy be OK with it. He will think that I think he fancies a guy for some reason.

You say a woman should not be intimate with a guy before she knows for sure....so I ask you to please give me an example of how you think this should happen without turning the guy off, including how long after meeting them.

Yea, I am seriously asking you how this in-depth conversation should take place in the real world.
 wild heart

Joined: 10/14/2007
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Posted: 4/29/2009 9:10:46 AM
^^^if you don't know how to bring that conversation up, you should learn.

It's highly important, at least for me, to know what activities a potential lover has done and what he likes/dislikes. This saves alot of time for me since sex is important to me.


You say a woman should not be intimate with a guy before she knows for sure....so I ask you to please give me an example of how you think this should happen without turning the guy off, including how long after meeting them.


How can you not know the answer to these questions? Proof yet again that most people have no clue how to communicate about sex.


You say a woman should not be intimate with a guy before she knows for sure....


Um no, I said I wouldn't. I could care less what other women do.

I prefer to have a serious discussion about this. Most people don't want to because they think it takes the "romance" out of sex or it's embarassing. Well, lots of other things, like STD's, take the romance out too and are embarassing. I like to know the risks I'm playing with. I'm sick of people who think that talking about these things and taking them seriously is a joke.
 djsamdotbiz

Joined: 8/19/2007
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Posted: 4/29/2009 10:07:19 AM
how do you think the conversation should go?........

Meet the guy and invite your nephew to come along...and just observe and keep your eyes open. Before hand offer to pay the tab. Wait til the new guy consumes the 6th beer, to make sure add another 3 more beers. Let your nephew make a move with the new guy. If he refuses his advances then you know two things. Your nephew was wrong and the guy is what you want...a man....

Let me add that I have friends who are gay and it doesnt bother me a bit. They have their preferences and I respect that, and I hope at the same time they respect mine.
I watched Jerry Springer one time and a gay guy used violence agaisnt the other gay guy who was trying to steal his lover. Violence is not used by straight people only. Did you try to pick up a woman who is with a lesbian at a bar...don't do it, she will beat the heck out of you....
 eschec mat

Joined: 3/3/2009
Msg: 117
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Posted: 4/29/2009 10:41:43 AM
Just because I like men, doesn't mean I find every man attractive. I am sure the comment about your nephew is a joke.

The only way you know is by knowing the person. My current bf and I discussed things we have enjoyed and don't necessarily enjoy in the bedroom. We talked about seeing the movie Rocky Horror Picture Show, one of my favs, and how he has seen it but would never dress for it. He would never wear makeup or let someone try it on him. Not that these are signs that someone is or isn't gay or bi, just talking and finding things out in conversation. Now my first fiance he was a different story. I loved him, but wouldn't want to be with someone like that again. I am older and just know what I want, like, etc. now.

Just like people can withhold any secret, if you really trust someone and they trust you, you will know.
 horny bi couple

Joined: 4/24/2009
Msg: 118
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Posted: 4/29/2009 10:42:22 AM
i am bi sexual and I don't tell any one. I don't act flamboyant and i prefer woman and when i do have sexual encounters with men there is usually a girl there 2. I don't just sleep with men I find it a bit of a turn off. but I cant tell people because they judge. if a girl says shes eaten out another girl its thought of as hot. men just cant be open about it. If I told a girl I was bi 9 out of 10 times she would leave. so i don't tell them. I have never had anle and don't want to ether so Im no more at risk for hiv or aids than any one else. if your a gay or bi-sexual man and your not feminine or flamboyant than being openly gay is just to hard so most men just dont tell. from my experience their are just as many bi men as women but men arnt allowed to be open about it. I think what we need is a mens movement. sort of like the women's movement but we make things equile instead of just moving the marker over as far as we can like the woman's movement did.
 sonofabiscuit2

Joined: 4/6/2009
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Posted: 4/29/2009 10:59:22 AM
Nothing another man could do would ever make me have any form of sex with him. Handjobs, blowjobs, anal-sex or even just kissing another man are out of the question. I'll retract the kissing part, I have kissed another man on the cheek, but they were related to me.
 want to travel

Joined: 7/29/2006
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Posted: 5/2/2009 2:18:07 AM
I had a psychology prof who had a theory about men and gay sex, he theorized that one of the reasons prof. sports has such a large following is because bisexual men are attracted to the alpha males.....i think there is some truth to this,men spend hours watching masculine men,playing, they worship these other men, while they ignore the woman in there lives.....
 luv_n_theory

Joined: 4/15/2009
Msg: 121
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Posted: 5/2/2009 5:21:52 AM
Oh Please...Please Mr. poster man AKA want to travel...start a new thread with that same thought pattern! LOL I would love to see where it goes!

Oh yea,straight to the delete/closed file.
 Closer2U

Joined: 2/19/2009
Msg: 122
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Posted: 5/2/2009 5:32:27 AM
I find these statements, made almost in the same breath, hypocritical. If one really believes that homosexuality just makes you who you are; then how can that person be sickened by the sexuality of said persons? Are they not supposed to engage in sex?
Unbelievable……..
I cannot consider statements from someone of this mindset to have any validity.


You got that right!
It's inborn...but sick?Ok then.If that makes you feel superior to others....so be it.
Should I post the definition of Homophobia again for ya'? Or does your attitude stem from righteous Christian morality?Either way....Your hypocracy is GROSS!~

And...Windlovrr...WOW...you are SO damn cool! Kudo's my GOOD man!
 the_sphere83

Joined: 10/4/2008
Msg: 123
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Posted: 5/2/2009 6:41:55 AM
some say 80% of the population are bisexual... thats right eighty percent!
theres your answer
 ilovetoshop

Joined: 1/3/2009
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Posted: 5/2/2009 7:51:22 AM
these days anything goes ..we want to enjoy the best of both worlds ..just for fun !!!!!
life is too short ...so live it up...drink it down..and laught it off ..
 Venus_00

Joined: 5/3/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2009 9:03:34 AM
Alcohol doesn't CREATE desire for sex it release's it. The desire was already there. The fact is we are all human and sex is hardwired into our brains. I have dated many a bisexual men and Homosexual men who were toying with the idea of being with a female. It has been said that the male G-spot is his prostate. I believe that as society becomes more open minded we feel more free to explore our sexual side. We feel we can explore the taboo and what is considered wrong. There is a piece in all of us that is curious about what is forbidden to us. (not necessarily homo erotic). I believe that you are attracted to these men because they have a certain quality that you find appealing. It is up to you to look within yourself and find what that is.

I believe that as we become more comfortable with ourselves and each other that we will explore these area's of sex in all sorts of different ways to further our growth and understanding of individuality and where that fits in a society.
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