| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 8:03:27 PM | Here we go again.....GENTLEMAN.....this is for you.
First of all I take offense at the remark about woman in their 50 and 60's activity level, or lack of according too you. Some of us run circles around younger women. Myself included. I do 400 crunches 3 times a week.... as part of my exercise routine....would dance every night if I could find some old guy too keep up with me....enjoy running and long walks...and I look like I'm in my 40's..and more importantly feel and act it. BUT ,I would never consider lying about my age. I look at it this way IF A GUY DOES NOT WANT A 60 something yr . old, why would I want him????????????? We all age differently. some have better genes and take better care of themselves. I hope too meet the guy who can keep up with me in every way....... Read my previous post..................................this could be done too you someday, and you may not like it....<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_27.gif borde | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 8:05:59 PM | lying about ANYTHING on dating sites is stupid... i mean, unless you never plan to actually meet someone in person or think they'll somehow NOT notice that you're only 4 ft tall when your profile says 6 ft or something ridiculous like that.
i tried match for a little bit a while back... had about 3 or 4 one-shot dates that were a nice enough time, pleasant people etc, but they never went any further than the first due to misrepresentation... for example, i honestly think all body shapes and sizes can be attractive (assuming the person can pull it off with a little style and class... and besides, i'm not in perfect shape myself) but a 'few' extra pounds IS less than 100 extra... unless the person is so shitty at math that they take off their shoes to count to twenty... or has the impression that i'm feeble minded enough to forget who i was supposed to be meeting... and either way it's 'thanks, was nice to meet you' and a complete waste of time for both...
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 9:15:02 PM |
What are your opinions on his chances of being accepted (forgiven) or rejected .. on that first date, after confessing he is really 61 and not 51? So, your profile says you are 51, when you are in fact 10 years older?
But you feeel 15 years younger!?
What you are doing here is taking away the woman's choice to decide for herself whether you do or not, with all your badgering and arguing with the women who've taken you to task on your post, you seem not to get it.
You seek to manipulate the site by misrepresenting yourself and are trying to justify it.
... because that guy is me ... Hmmm, you don't say?
in another dating site and that first date is next Wednesday. Bet she'll be pleased? But then, it's not about what she wants is it? It's about what you think she should have. I can just see you whining about her not giving you a chance when she finds out you've deceived her.
It's called 'bait and switch' or, in business terms, fraud. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 9:21:07 PM | Gentleman
Have you ever stop to consider why these women have an age range preference to begin with? You seem more focused on beating the system than the interest of the women on here.
I met woman a few years ago who told me she was 39 low and behold it turned out she was 49!! I was 28/29 at the time. If I wanted to date some one 20 years older that should by my choice.
An d this business of lying online and then telling the truth on the first date is a waste of her time and yours. If you knew that she wouldnt have agreed to a first date if you're honest from the start, what makes you think she'll entertain a second date. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 9:27:30 PM | | Believe it or not, I'm actually slightly younger than what my profile states. I'm an aquarius, not a capricorn. I'd change it now if I could. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 10:36:23 PM | Its 40, the next line you will hear is about height, its 5-6. You cant to a damn thing about either of them, whats the point in lying about them. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/14/2009 11:37:20 PM | Gentleman- No, I'm sorry, but I don't now see it differently. Simply because you want to date someone in their 40's or younger doesn't necessarily mean they want to date a man that's in his 60's. So my opinion is that Kat had it correct when she mentioned narcissistic to some degree - you want what you want, regardless of what your dates want. Not every person is comfortable dating someone with 20 more years life experience than themselves, and that's a very acceptable guideline for them to have.
Try this out: on the other dating site that you list yourself as 41, tell your potential dates before you meet them your true age and see how many still agree to meet you.
I'm also curious as to why you hid your pictures. But at the risk of offending you (I apologize in advance), while you may be in fine physical shape, you do look much closer to your actual age than perhaps you think. I don't say this to be mean or to slam you in any way, just that you should know women aren't dumb and sometimes we laugh when we compare some ages to the pictures. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 12:14:20 AM |
I look a lot younger than I am so I wonder if that’s going to be a big problem. I'd love to think that about my own self, but I own an honest mirror. It tells me that I look 45. It doesn't matter to me that I've been told otherwise because for every person that tells me I look younger, there's likely one that thinks I look my age or older.
Try this out: on the other dating site that you list yourself as 41, tell your potential dates before you meet them your true age and see how many still agree to meet you. OMFG ~ I didn't read the entire thread. Shame on me. He's in his 60s posing as someone in his 40s. I think senility has set in. I'm sorry, but that's egregious.
~OT~ I find the whole age lying business odd. What years does one delete? College years? High School years? Puberty years? An entire childhood? Oh, the failing marriage years? I personally think most people look their age and I'm thrilled that most do. Pre-mature aging is a very different thing than simply aging. Aging due to a poor/unhealthy lifestyle is also different than merely aging. We are all getting older, it shows to a degree on all of us. Why lie about it? Embrace it, deal with it, enjoy it. JMO  | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 2:01:44 AM | | I look pretty good for 53! Walk a 14:29 mile. Ride a bicycle. And exactly what you want to see coming if you yell HELP! 6 foot 5 and 300 pounds! So my photo is current and profile as exact as I can be. I do not want to be shot because someone thinks a bear is outside! Yes you can lie but it comes back to bite you in the end. If you wear glasses photo should have glasses I walked right past the last person I met because she put on her glasses. But she saw me I am hard to miss! | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 8:34:35 AM | Gentleman+, please do not contort my words...they are not yours to manipulate like you do with your own age, and etc!
I did not say, "I would feel raped." What I DID say was, "I would feel RAPED OF MY CHOICE. HUGE difference, thank you.
You can now add HYPOCRITE to your list of endearing qualities to offer on a dating site! YOU dislike being pigeon holed, but you do it yourself when talking about women in your age range. OHhhhhhh!! But that's because YOU are not TYPICAL...you are AMAZING. Yep...I stand by my earlier accusation of being narcissistic. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 9:23:13 AM | Harley Kat....another woman who tells it like it is............................I like you girl...you are one COOL............KAT...
Some people never quite "GET IT" when it comes too lying. Me thinks... these people would not like too be raped of their choice. That seems too be, as far as I can tell, what most of us here are trying too tell the age/weight/height/etc.....fibbers on this site........................................just give everyone the CHOICE too either meet you ..date you..or not ..BASED ON HONESTY..........desperate is not flattering, and narcissistic is even less so....................  | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 11:19:50 AM |
i honestly think all body shapes and sizes can be attractive (assuming the person can pull it off with a little style and class... and besides, i'm not in perfect shape myself) but a 'few' extra pounds IS less than 100 extra... Very true. But I struggle with the terminology. I could cope with being 'significantly overweight' or 'fat' (although it's a bit blunt) or even 'cuddly' (yes I know it's a euphemism but at least it is true). But BBW just makes me cringe. I wish PoF would find a different term. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 11:34:06 AM | Awww....Angeleyes...you are an...Angel! You rawwwk, too, chica!
I agree...BBW is sooo...meh. I mean, what if you are big but not so beautiful? And how many actually go around referring to themselves as beautiful? LOL I mean, that are not narcisstics!
I prefer curvy, rubenesque, shapely, or even "hourglass" over BBW. But it's been done as a topic over and over here, and they will not take the suggestion.
And I am sorry, but having current pics does NOT always justify weight/body type either. I look MUCH heavier in pics, than in person...that "camera adds 10 pounds" myth...Pffft! Camera takes MY already 10 and turns it into 40!  | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 6:32:12 PM | urgood wrote:
Response to Jasmina, Yeah, I got what I deserved, learned my lesson, changed my profile and now that woman is gone for ever. But I am not heart-broken over it. Chill out people. I still bet I was the best man for her regardless what most of you hypocrits say. Listen to all of you jump on the band wagon acting like you never told a lie in you life. It is laughable. She would have had a lot of fun with a guy like me now she will never know. Possibly end up with some guy who acts perfect all the time and is so damn incredibly nice. She 'll get bored real fast with that. At least I fessed up before we even met. If she thinks I am too horrible to talk to because of it then she should step aside and quit wasting my time. I can't be with someone that fickle. After all, I just fibbed by just 5 years, big deal. Most of the females on here are obviously lying about there age among other things. No big problem for me. I do not mind if women lie about their age at all. They are either attractive or they are not. Period. Funny how the ones that complain the most are the first ones to stand up and yell " age is just a number"
In addition to lying, you seem to have a bit of an ego problem too. It reminds me of the guy I dated who had the same problems...lying and inflated ego...a very bad combination. I doubt you were the best man for her since since you lacked a quality she valued...honesty. You seem to think you know what she would want and how she would react to someone else, but you don't have a clue because you are not her.
If age is just a number, there would be no reason not to put the correct one on your profile. Why lie about it? You will be found out eventually and could lose someone you care a lot about. It seems that you have no problem lying about your age and accuse others of doing the same thing to make yourself look better. I don't lie about my age...why should I? If someone doesn't like my age, too bad. He is not someone I would want in my life anyway if that is all he cares about.
I could say the same thing about men...they are either attractive or they are not, but that has nothing to do with lying about their age...completely different topic. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 6:45:38 PM | gentlleman wrote: <div class="quote">This response is intended to all that have posted a response about the subject: "Lying about age on dating profile"
I get a feeling, when reading most responses, that the interpretation of the subject, is that the man or woman, who lied about their age, continue with the lie into the relationship, rather than confess on the first date. If the interpretation that the lie continues into the relationship applies, then I do not blame the person, who has been lied to, in getting upset. But let's take the other possibility:
The person lies about his/her age in the profile, says nothing during initial communications (email/telephone) but offers a confession at the start of the first date - not the middle or the end - but the start of the first date. The reason provided for lying: "He is 61 but due to great genes and maintaining an active life, healthy living and ongoing physical fitness, he is always taken to be in his mid-forties and can do what most guys in their 40's can do, just as well or better. Add to that, the fact that in stating he is 61, gets him in the search range of women in their 50's and 60's, who think looking after their flower pots in the garden is strenous physical activity. He enjoys running ... can run 10 km in one hour ... just over a year ago, he hiked Torres del Paine ... 125 km in 5 days with a 30 Kg back pack ... three weeks later he climbed Mount Chirripo (3,900 m), and when he goes out dancing (Latin .. Merengue, Salsa, etc..) he can do it all night. The women in their 50's and 60's would probably drop, just thinking about that level of activity." His lie: His profile reads 51 and she is a fit 48 ... just perfect for his lifestyle. Everything else in his profile is 100% true, along with all the other information he volunteered during their communications. During their communications, they got along tremendously.
What are your opinions on his chances of being accepted (forgiven) or rejected .. on that first date, after confessing he is really 61 and not 51?
I would be interested to know ... because that guy is me ... in another dating site and that first date is next Wednesday. In this site I have stated my correct age ... and experienced what I have described.
I will be cancelling my profile from this site, mainly because of the encouragement from this site to provide filters, so that I am unable to contact a 48 years old woman, if I think we may be compatible, because her upper limit may be 55 (and obvioulsy, she would not be contacting me.)
Your responses will be appreciated. Please remember when writing your response ... somewhere in the bible it says something along the lines of ... "Let those without sin ... cast the first stone."
To answer your question, I would not go out with you again since you lied, and I would also wonder what else you were lying about. If a person lies about one thing, another person cannot trust what he or she says...there will always be that doubt in the back of the mind about whatever they say. The date would end as soon as I found out that you had lied, and you would not hear from me again. It makes no difference what age you think you are (I dated a guy who used the same faulty logic and I ended it because of his lying and inflated ego, not because of his age or his height, which he also lied about). I don't care what the person lies to me about. If he lies, the trust is broken. The relationship can never be the same again. It's much like cheating in that way. You should be upfront with your age. If a woman does not want to date someone your age, that is her choice. Why would you waste her time with lies only to have her end it when she finds out? | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/15/2009 8:13:34 PM | Its realy is funny how much people do lie on here and everywhere else.. I cant comment on guys profiles as i never looked. But many women do lie about there age. It seems a few think, That if they are thin that they must look 10-15 years younger.. So i wonder if they are 45 and look 15 years younger then they have to look same as a 30 year old.. So does that mean when there were 30 they looked like a 15 year old???? Or is it the older you get the slower you age???? Just cause you look good for your age dont mean you look 10-15 years younger lol.. But then this site wont let you change the age after you post it. I put the wrong month and it shows im 41 instead of 42. So im behind about 7 months of my real age lol.. I have a friend she meet a few guys from a difrent site and she says more then half of them are shorter then posted. For me it means many people have low self esteem having to lie about who and what they are. As they know they are not good enough being themselves. From reading the thread it seems no one would date the person as soon as they find out about the lie. I would think they would have learned by now that it wont work..
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 5:28:06 AM | | Internet dating for me has been pretty much a total waste of time. Over 80% of the women I either personally already knew or met lied about their ages by from 3 to 12 years. Their photos were usually out of date, some virually ancient. Over two thirds of the women I actually met lied significantly about their weight - unless one considers 20 to 50 pounds "a few" extra pounds. Particularly beware if they show only headshots in their profiles. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 6:12:25 AM |
So i wonder if they are 45 and look 15 years younger then they have to look same as a 30 year old.. So does that mean when there were 30 they looked like a 15 year old???? When I was 30 I answered the door to a caller and he asked if my mother was in! So perhaps I did look like a 15 year old! | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 6:23:10 AM |
When I was 30 I answered the door to a caller and he asked if my mother was in! So perhaps I did look like a 15 year old!
When I was 41, someone asked me if my sister (six years older than I am) were my mother. There is NO way that I looked young enough to be her daughter or she old enough to be my mom--so take such comments with a boulder of salt.
A question: If a person (men in my case) looks older in his profile pic than the age he has listed, should I ask if he is lying about his age? I see this discrepancy fairly often and in the cases where I met the man, he confessed to being older or slipped up and told the truth. | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 6:35:27 AM |
Please remember when writing your response ... somewhere in the bible it says something along the lines of ... "Let those without sin ... cast the first stone."
I am a pagan and I don't care what the bible admonishes. It also says flatly, "Thou shalt not lie," which not only makes a liar, but a sinner who sins in full knowledge of his sin and without contrition.
The person lies about his/her age in the profile, says nothing during initial communications (email/telephone) but offers a confession at the start of the first date - not the middle or the end - but the start of the first date.
I would stare at him dumbfounded, amazed that someone of such a great age could buy into the flatterers who tell him that he looks ten years younger. Then I would say, "Oh, I see--you lied to me," and that would be the end of that.
Not only that, but if I HAD filters or preferences on my profile and a man older than my desire contacted me and had lied about his age, it means that he had little care or respect as to my desires--which makes him unacceptable.
Gentleman, I can only echo what others say: that your denigration of women your age is appalling and your apparent high esteem of yourself is not supported by a picture. In addition, being physically fit is only ONE aspect of a relationship.
I have had two dates with a man who is ten years older than me and is honest about it on his profile, and he does look ten years younger than his real age--the first man I have met from a dating site who really DOES look younger! If he had lied about it and I found out on the first date, that would have been the last date.
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Who wrote the damm book about how a 61 year old is supposed to act or perform? Yet people have pre-conceived ideas ... which shuts people out and on the long run ... form the mold into which they will fit ... when they reach that age.
This is amusingly and pathetically hypocritical. You describe women your age as finding gardening physically demanding THEN you complain about being pigeonholed? Read what you write, man! You derisively describe a whole generation of women and then whine about being stereotyped yourself! YOU have preconceived ideas, and don't tell me it is from meeting women in that age range because you have not met every 50+ woman in the world.
I have spent the last twelve years trying to explode the stereotypes set forth for women over 40 and then 50--I don't need some old fart perpetuating them.
I do not believe in pre-expectations ... or moulds. I am who I am ... and I am very comfortable in my own skin in the real world. It is this cyber-world that creates the problem ... because two people cannot talk eye-to-eye.
BUT you DO have expectations (and "pre-expectations" is redundant) and you put people in molds: again, YOU state that women your age are decrepit.
And yes, you are narcissistic because you think you do not fit the mold--that you are special and should be given consideration because of your uniqueness.
Given the number of young men interested in older women, why would a 48 or a 55 or a 60 year old woman want you because you are capable of running a race? Why not go for the real hard-body of a 25 year old?
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 7:31:31 AM | ^^ Hi sexy-legs Gwendolyn! (Missouri water rocks!) ;)
LAgoodguy...I can assume YOU are telling the truth, cause I do not think many would lie about their age by one teensy year! Well, unless they were trying to avoid admitting to a milestone like their four-oh or nifty fifty! LOL BUT....if you had in your profile something about your age being off by more years and "not able to change it"...my red flag machine would be shooting em like mad, saying..."LIAR!" LOL Sorry...but your pic appears that you have GRAY or salt-n-pepper hair...and you do not LOOK 41 or 42. LOL And people...if you boo-booed when making your profile and did not notice it within the two allotted weeks...START OVER.
To the guy who just mentioned the weight...20-50 pounds NOT being (a few pounds over." I agree...BUT...it is also NOT "BBW" for most....and that is the choice options. I am closer to "a few pounds over" than I am to being "BBW." Blame Plentyoffish for THAT ONE, and ask for PICTURES and live cam, eventually. I try very hard to be as honest as possible...am NOT gonna give my weight and measurements...Gawd...would sound like one of those mail order bride sites! | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 7:39:27 AM | | But But Kat..Ive got my pen and paper ready for your stats..cmon throw us a bone. Seriously why lie about yourself eventually the truth will be known and it may cause you to lose something special...just sayin | |
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| LYING ABOUT AGE ON DATING PROFILE! Posted: 5/16/2009 7:46:25 AM | The race..GENTLEMAN runs in is....against father time. We all know he will loose this one. As we all eventually will. This is life. I will give him the benifit of the doubt...in that he may be "unique" for his age. Maybe he is more physically fit than most men his age....maybe he does look younger than 61.....maybe he acts and performs like a man in his 40's.. If so....all the more reason too be proud of the fact that is is 61 years on this earth and still blessed with ability too do the things he does...BUT... Is he foolish enough too think that he is the only man in his generation like this.....and even more foolish too believe there are no women over 50 with the same qualities. To really feel comfortable in ones own skin...we need too accept who we are...put it out there for all too see...and say...THIS IS ME...like me for who and what I am....if we fit great...if we don't....move on...one last comment. REMEMBER GENTLEMAN..men age faster than woman ..so why not start out somewhere close in age........ Hummmmm maybe I should give that 48year old who keeps contacting me a chance. | |
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