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 Herkimer

Joined: 5/17/2005
Msg: 24
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/1/2005 12:34:14 PM
No, I am saying that "social medicine" is not a reliable source
 Suther

Joined: 5/20/2005
Msg: 25
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/15/2005 1:54:21 AM

he U.S. Department of Agriculture was not immediately available to comment Thursday on when it would allow imports of Canadian cattle to resume.

The imports were banned in May 2003 after a cow in Alberta, Canada was found to have mad cow disease.

The unanimous decision Thursday by a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturns a Montana judge who blocked the USDA from reopening the border in March, saying it "subjects the entire U.S. beef industry to potentially catastrophic damages" and "presents a genuine risk of death for U.S. consumers."

The justices said they would issue another ruling soon explaining their rationale.

The decision came a day after the U.S. Justice Department urged the appeals court in Seattle to reopen the border to imports.

Justice Department attorney Mark Stern said lifting the ban was based on "good science" and would not result in the "infestation in American livestock."

During the hearing, the three judges suggested that U.S. District Judge Richard F. Cebull perhaps should have given deference to the USDA's decision.

Judge A. Wallace Tashima said the law "does invest the secretary of agriculture with a certain amount of discretion."

Judge Connie Callahan agreed, saying the USDA is "entitled to some deference. It's their whole job to keep up with the science to make those decisions."

American Meat Institute President J. Patrick Boyle said the industry would be able to resume cattle shipments quickly.

"A lot of the preliminary work is already done. I think you'll see the industry move quickly," he said.

U.S. cattlemen are getting more for their cows without the competition of Canadian beef, but profits have declined at packers and feedlots, which are paying higher prices for cattle to process.

They say Canadian cattle are safe, and that the ranchers are more interested in monopolizing supplies than protecting the meat-eating public.

Speaking in Ottawa, Canada before the appellate court decision was released, Boyle blamed the ban for the loss of more than 8,000 jobs in the U.S. meat packing industry.

The Canadian Cattlemen's Association, which represents some 90,000 beef producers, estimates they have lost more than $5.6 billion since the ban was established.

"This is a tremendous victory for the northwest beef industry," said Cody Easterday, who runs an 18,000-head feedlot in Pasco, Washington.

"It's basically going to protect our future for many families that depend on the beef industry for their livelihood."

Mad cow disease is the common name for bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE. People who eat meat tainted with BSE can contract a degenerative, fatal brain disorder called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

More than 150 people died from it following a 1986 outbreak in the United Kingdom.
 grog27

Joined: 2/25/2005
Msg: 26
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/15/2005 6:30:06 PM
"To be even more honest, I don't think the Canadian producers losing out should be the U.S.'s greatest concern here."


AHA!!!! THAT'S the crux of the problem!! The whole thing has nothing whatsoever to do with scince. The border has been closed for purely political, protectionist reasons. (Free trade? Whut's THAT?!?) In fact, just as it was about to re-open this past spring, the US cattlemen bought...excuse me...PURSUADED a judge to maintain the border closure. Thanks goodness a higher court has finally seen some sense and overturned that ruling.
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 27
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/15/2005 6:34:30 PM
Keep the border closed. We don't want no tainted beef.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 28
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/15/2005 6:50:21 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/15/madcow050715.html
 Suther

Joined: 5/20/2005
Msg: 29
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/15/2005 9:58:00 PM

Keep the border closed. We don't want no tainted beef.

That's right, you have your own tainted beef to enjoy
 mauser

Joined: 1/3/2005
Msg: 30
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/16/2005 12:52:04 AM
Has anyone died from this desease after being infected by a north american cow?

If not this is a non issue in my book.
 Suther

Joined: 5/20/2005
Msg: 31
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/16/2005 1:14:37 AM
I only know of one death in North America, a man in Saskatchewan. There may be more I am unaware of.
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 32
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/16/2005 1:27:39 AM
That's right, you have your own tainted beef to enjoy


While I now that was supposed to be a pithy comeback, I'm going to let that stand on it's own. There have been two cows infected with this disease in the US, and so we must keep the borders closed, so we don't spread it further. I want no Canadian beef coming into the US, and vice versa. Keep the border closed.
 Suther

Joined: 5/20/2005
Msg: 33
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/16/2005 1:50:19 AM
If you were implying this:
There have been two cows infected with this disease in the US, and so we must keep the borders closed, so we don't spread it further. I want no Canadian beef coming into the US, and vice versa. Keep the border closed.


By this comment:
Keep the border closed. We don't want no tainted beef.


Then I agree and apologize for assuming you meant that all Canadian beef is tainted by the above comment.

And quite honestly I think it is too soon to open up the borders.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 34
thoughts on Texas mad cow case and beef producers relative silence
Posted: 7/27/2005 8:40:30 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/07/27/cow-050727.html
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