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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 4:28:30 AM | You have obviously not met many goodlooking women and being goodlooking does not necassarily mean being thin some very curvacious larger women are very attractive just as some bigger built men ooze sex appeal.
Maybe you are going for looks too much and they notice this and it puts them off, even very pretty girls are not stupid they are used to guys chasing after them and are not impressed by someone going after them just for their looks and prefer to have someone who likes them for themself and who they get along with. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 4:28:36 AM |
You have obviously not met many goodlooking women and being goodlooking does not necassarily mean being thin some very curvacious larger women are very attractive just as some bigger built men ooze sex appeal.
Uhhh... whatever. By the way, punctuation is your friend. You should get to know him/her better.
"Curvacious" to me means "vixen". My x fiance' was 5'5, about 130 lbs, a size 5 in jeans, and was a 34DDD. That is curvacious. Fat is not curvacious. Fat is lazy.
I know. I got fat when I was a restaurant manager and I've been working like crazy to get it all off. There is nothing sexy about being unhealthy.
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Posted: 5/3/2009 4:32:53 AM |
You have obviously not met many goodlooking women and being goodlooking does not necassarily mean being thin some very curvacious larger women are very attractive just as some bigger built men ooze sex appeal.
Maybe you are going for looks too much and they notice this and it puts them off, even very pretty girls are not stupid they are used to guys chasing after them and are not impressed by someone going after them just for their looks and prefer to have someone who likes them for themself and who they get along with.
Double posts are not your friend. Or anyone else's. And everyone likes to be told that their partner finds them attractive.
I really hate to break it to you, but men are visual - most women are to some degree too. If it were only men who found thin, healthy women attractive, there would not be a bajillion weight loss pills out there, and 50% of every magazine for women wouldn't be about losing weight.
Being an awesome person takes hard work and self discipline. Past the age of 18, most people with nice bodies work to have it. This is respectable. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 4:33:12 AM | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh Plaeeeeze!
Fat is lazy.
Some women (and men) don't have it in their genes to be skinny little waifs. That doesn't mean they are lazy, or unhealthy! | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 4:42:46 AM |
Oh Plaeeeeze!
Fat is lazy.
Some women (and men) don't have it in their genes to be skinny little waifs. That doesn't mean they are lazy, or unhealthy!
Overweight is overweight regardless of body style. Lucy Lawless for instance is NOT a small girl - but she is very beautiful and has a wonderful physique.
Seriously - a larger frame is not an excuse to pack on 50 lbs. Come on, folks. This is not rocket science. It's not about looks - it's about health. I find is highly ironic and disgusting that our society places such a huge emphisis on smoking, while walmart furnishes motorized carts for all the disgustingly obese person to drive around in. Because walking may be too hard, ya know.
It all reminds me of Wall-E. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 4:52:08 AM | Well, all 3 words are obviously very much context laden and subject to the relative mores of whoever is doing the term-slinging.
Personally, I think that a healthy BMI is a pretty good indicator. Beyond that, some people have more attractive features than others.
Just simple things such as the way a person (especially a woman) dresses can have a huge effect.
Getting back to the original question posted by the OP, I do believe that how we are treated at younger ages in school has a HUGE effect on who we become as adults. Vapid, self centered airheads don't even really change in personality - even after they have a couple of kids and gain 100 lbs.
Sweet, intelligent, artistic girls stay that way even after they grow some boobs and a smoking hot bod. A large number of actresses, dancers, and musicians who are both clever, humble, and beautiful were late bloomers and were bullied in school.
This is the gist of my point. It's illogical to say that people who are treated in very different ways growing up will not develop into different people. There are always exceptions to the rule - like I graduated with a Miss Washington from hs... and she was ALWAYS an incredible, exceptionally nice person. However, I think a large portion of this was due to her upbringing and naturally vibrant personality. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:00:53 AM | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And Cityhorsewoman, I don't get where you're coming from.
You look great, and you have a physique that most other women in their early 40s would kill to have. You are an "attractive woman".
??confused??
Thank you for the compliments 8soldierfalcon8.
I don't like to be judgemental about people based on their physical stature. There could be many reasons why one is overweight or big.
We live in a society where we are so pressured to look sexy and young and under 30 forever. Some people will never read past the cover of the book to look inside to read the chapters, and it is a shame.
Big or small, attractive or unattractive, it is all in their attitude and how much one loves themselves, life and other people. That is what gets reflected outward and in the long run, confidence and being genuine is what (most) people appreciate.
Does that make sense?  | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:02:41 AM | You look great, and you have a physique that most other women in their early 40s would kill to have. You are an "attractive woman". LOL "Most women in their early 40's would kill to have" OMG you are a piece of work soldierboy...This is very similar to, you look great, for your age....LOL | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 5:07:33 AM | Problem is..............I can take care of my body, but I can't do a darn thing with my face. Makeup improves it, but I can't make me to be the standard prototype of beautiful on the outside....I just have to hope that some man is not so shallow that he misses my inside.
I have met some incredibly exteriorly beautiful women who were beautiful on the inside. The key was...they did not comprehend how exteriorly beautiful they were because they were brought up to be a human being not a princess/diva. I have know some extra handsome men who were wonderful on the inside but most of the hunks knew it and had the beautiful women hanging all over them. They, too, had a major case of the entitlement.
When I see all the 'princess/diva' commercialism, it makes me disgustly ill. As if we need to raise anymore of them. Some people are so self centered. Yes, I agree we should deserve to be cared for, to be happy but I don't think that one person deserves it anymore than another. Raising generations of spoiled rotten children breeds spoiled rotten adults who find themselves deeply in debt--look around people--they think at twenty to forty they should have everything it took their parents forty years to build.
My children had Atari when everyone else had playstations. Yes, there was screaming and yelling from them, because everyone else had it, but now as adults they understand things don't make you happy.
My mother always told me that pretty is as pretty does.
Re: the post below:
I would rather date an average looking girl who loves herself than a drop dead gorgeous woman with issues. could you give lessons to some guys in my age bracket? | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:15:19 AM |
Thank you for the compliments 8soldierfalcon8.
I don't like to be judgemental about people based on their physical stature. There could be many reasons why one is overweight or big.
We live in a society where we are so pressured to look sexy and young and under 30 forever. Some people will never read past the cover of the book to look inside to read the chapters, and it is a shame.
Big or small, attractive or unattractive, it is all in their attitude and how much one loves themselves, life and other people. That is what gets reflected outward and in the long run, confidence and being genuine is what (most) people appreciate.
Does that make sense?
Yes, it actually does. I understand. I would rather date an average looking girl who loves herself than a drop dead gorgeous woman with issues. My problem is with some of the posters on here calling "thin and pretty" girls, "supermodels". I go to school with women from 18-50, and I am fairly certain that none of them are beautiful for a living. However, it's pretty easy to tell who takes care of their appearance and who does not. I believe that (with few exceptions) there is no such thing as an ugly woman - only a lazy one. I think women are gorgeous, gorgeous creatures. And the fact that a woman has the intellect and humor of a human being makes women as a whole to be admired. This in a nutshell is why I will die a chivalrous man.
You look great, and you have a physique that most other women in their early 40s would kill to have. You are an "attractive woman".
LOL "Most women in their early 40's would kill to have" OMG you are a piece of work soldierboy...This is very similar to, you look great, for your age....LOL
No, I said she is an attractive woman. Not attractive for her age. I'm sorry you've got some serious issues and perhaps a nasty case of TSS... but seriously, get over it. I've noticed that all the ignorant, borderline re-re people who insult me on here always try to make some (witty?) word play on my handle and don't bother to even extend the respect of typing it out the whole way.
Bravo, random, bitter, older, jealous woman! You're a peach. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:20:42 AM | ^^^Wow your reaction shows what you really are....you don't even get the joke but yow....go for the juggular....what do I have to be jealous about do you think? It's not a serious issue to think that only someone with what is obviously a very, very superficial take on reality and what women are and should be could not see the ridiculousness of indirectly saying that most women over 40 have bodies that are not in shape and would 'kill' to have a specific type of body. You have been ranting and raving on this thread about a whole slew of superficial things in how you view women, and I've just been sitting here reading it and thinking what a lot of foolishness. Late bloomers are more interesting? Attractive women have nothing going for them and make no effort? OMG it's such complete stereotypical thinking.
Oh yes, and if a woman makes a joke, it means she's jealous, bitter, and what else? What's a man who makes a joke? | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:22:12 AM | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nevertheless, I'll take them all......
You look great
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you have a physique that most other women in their early 40s would kill to have
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you look great, for your age
Its all good. Thanks! | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 5:30:22 AM | Thank you for being so gracious, Cityhorsewoman. And I meant every word I said. You look phenomenal and you obviously have a huge heart. You're probably the type of woman the OP was talking about being desirable.
I am ignoring the poster before you who in typical message board fashion, is pretending she was joking after she got pwned in the face.
:P | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 5:33:22 AM | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will thank you again 8soldierfalcon8 and as you stated in your profile, everyone should be proud of who they are.
And placing value in themselves for who they are or what they look like, no matter what, can't hurt either. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 5:57:03 AM | I am ignoring the poster before you who in typical message board fashion, is pretending she was joking after she got pwned in the face . I was joking, you just don't get the joke. Odds are you never will. ....but it very obvious from all your posts you don't get much... except you do know how to be extremely superficial, w/o realizing it, and really, really nasty and mean spirited.
I have nothing to be jealous about...but you wouldn't know that, you wouldn't get it. All the stereotypical horseshite you've been spewing in this thread is belied by my reality and that of millions of other very attractive and very smart women who didn't need to compensate for not being attractive enough to men to purposely create interesting lives so someone would care about them or so they would have some value to the rest of the world.
In other words, appearance has absolutely nothing to do with personality or smarts or accomplishments. Only those who are limited in any or all of those areas would be limited enough to think so. And it is insulting, to anyone whom you suggest does it, that they have to compensate for not being pretty or attractive enough, that they build their lives or their personalities around being accepted and valued by others because they are not attractive enough. Or that women who are attractive don't make any effort to use their minds or to build their characters because all they are and feel the need to be are pretty dolls. A Doll's House was written a century ago. Anyone who has read it or heard of it is anyone who knows the very minimum about modern thought .... A hundred years ago ideas such as you are spewing in this thread were dispelled. Your ideas were also dispelled by Gloria Steinheim 30 years ago. You're not very well read are you soldierboy.....?? Falcons are birds of prey....is that why you are? | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 7:17:28 AM |
Oh yeah, a supermodel type woman hunting and killing an animal or into dirt bikes. OOps! she might break a nail or melt if she gets a little dirty.
Serious misconception! Didn't ANYBODY read my post?? It is quite possible, even probable that someone who takes pride in their appearance and their health, who loves to dress up, look like an Elle cover model, can also ride dirt bikes, hunt, fish, camp, ride Segways, kayak, write, create, clean the scum off the garage floor when the trash bag leaked...
....hold her man's arm in her Armani and stilleto's with her scumptuous bootylicious self attracting all kinds of attention and get that nail fixed if it breaks....
Geeze, some of them even have kids, change diapers, keep a clean, organized house and take part in the community!!!
IMAGINE THAT! | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 10:00:44 AM | | You must not get out much, or prejudge women before really getting to know them because I know many, many beautiful women who dont mind getting their hands dirty. My daughter for one, she looks like a beauty queen(actually, she is) but she loves anything to to do with power tools! She has done anything from floor refinishing to electrical work , drywalling, remodeling projects,etc. BTW, her husband is worthless when it comes to anything like this. She also does all the yard work and landscaping, and trains for 5k runs. Some of my favorite things are camping,(I'm the only one who can get the fire started!) backpacking, target and skeet shooting, and even fishing, as long as I dont have to touch the bait or the fish! lol! hey! I am still a girly girl! Perhaps, the OP should consider taking an interst in the things the women he is attracted to are into. It always seems like the woman has to be into what the man likes but he doesnt have to make an effort to even try to support her interests. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 10:09:56 AM | Don't know about others, but I love to camp, fish, horseback ride, snorkel, ride bikes, and just about anything out doors. I'm probably going to look a bit frumpy or less "runway fashion" oriented, because I simply can't imagine pedaling my bike with a short dress and 6 inch heels. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2009 10:43:56 AM | Thank you DiamondGirl and Sue!!! I don't know where people get the idea women have to be either this way or that. Or if you happen to be good at plumbing or sheet rock or fixing your own car, you have to be a jock and be as plain as a brown paper sack.
OR, that if you happen to be pretty, fit and into makeup, extensions, the latest fashions, heels and shoes, navel piercing and feel good when you look like you just stepped off the pages of a fashion magazine, you would faint at a broken nail or smudged lipstick..... | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 11:17:48 AM | I used to do small bore rifle shooting when I was much younger. Since then I've done parachuting, white water rafting, scuba diving and ridden motorbikes and travelled around a lot of the world on my own.
I love hiking, I garden, I love fashion and dressing up, I work out, run, cycle and swim, and I cook. I'm not afraid of getting dirty and as we speak I have a broken nail from digging the garden and a bruised leg from falling off my bike into a ditch (funny now, not funny at the time!).
I don't know where I stand in the attraction stakes (and I'm not that interested either) but I'm a UK size 10/12 (US = 4/6??) at 5' 9" tall, so pretty slim.
My Dad used to joke that he had 5 sons that drove cars, lived near their Mam and played soccer and a daughter who played rugby, drove motorbikes and travelled the world.
I suggest that what people do is based a lot on what opportunities have come their way, and their personality is largely based on their background, what they've done, where they've been and who they've met. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 12:01:44 PM | If someone were to run into me at this particular minute, they would assume i am far from a girly girl.
shorts and a swimsuit, but covered to the elbows in dirt, no makeup, hair up, bare feet,face covered in dirt (and blissfully happy). So if someone ran into me they'd make an assumption and miss the fact that I am every bit as comfortable in a skirt, heels, makeup, curled hair and silk.
horseback riding is awesome. So are stilletos. So is fishing.
It's all good.
No one has to be either or; and no one is doing it to make an "impression". I like watching sports, fishing, landscaping and hiking and sailing (and writing, reading, sci fi and music) because I happen to love them; they make me feel good; I like variety; not very specific interests that are "usually" typical for someone who likes wearing skirts and heels.
Not because it makes me look better or worse to someone else. Obviously, I am far from the only one who is this way, from reading others in this topic.
It's all good. Generalizations, snap judgments and labeling miss a HUGE amount of what makes people each unique. If someone looks beyond the initial imprssion or below the surface? They can be surprised to find a whole whole lot more in a lot of people than they first assume to be there. | |
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| is a woman's personality directly related to her appearance?
Posted: 5/3/2009 12:06:33 PM | | When the statement is made--women are complex creatures--we are. That is what keeps us interesting. I would soon be bored with a one dimensional man, I would think a man would feel the same about a one dimensional woman. | |
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